ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think this about covers everyone that's been talked about at one point or another as a possible starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Whichever one proceeds to have the greatest future success from today on forward is the obvious choice. I'll be sure to fill you all in about how right I was in a few years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 It should be a battle between Petty, Hack and whoever they draft. There's no reason to bring in a vet. We need to live and die with the young guys this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Is this a who do you want, or a who do you think question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Once i saw someone voted for Geno...... and Hoyer....... I just voted for who i though we would draft at 6 because i do think it should be a draft QB not a "hold the fort Vet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Don't care till Sam Donarld is on the list. Neither should any of you. But I know you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Don't care till Sam Donarld is on the list. Neither should any of you. But I know you do. JETS luck we won't have a chance to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Stark said: JETS luck we won't have a chance to draft him. I know. I know. But a fat man can dream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It should be a battle between Petty, Hack and whoever they draft. There's no reason to bring in a vet. We need to live and die with the young guys this year. I wonder if Todd Bowles and Mike Maccagnan feel the same way. Fans can live and die, because when the season is over, they still have their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It should be a battle between Petty, Hack and whoever they draft. There's no reason to bring in a vet. We need to live and die with the young guys this year. I would not mind seeing this at all but I feel there is about a 1% chance of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Is this a who do you want, or a who do you think question? Let's go with who you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'm going with Hackenberg. I think he's going to be terrible. So, either he crashes and burns and we get the #1 overall pick, or he proves me and others wrong and we have a QB for the future. I don't think it makes sense to take a QB at 6, and unless your plan is to win the Super Bowl this year, Culter and Romo are a terrible idea. My second choice would be Glennon, for potential upside, though I'm not overly optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tinstar said: I wonder if Todd Bowles and Mike Maccagnan feel the same way. Fans can live and die, because when the season is over, they still have their jobs. Bringing in a vet and going 7-9 to 9-7 should cost them their jobs more quickly than going with the kids and bombing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Glennon is the only free agent I want. Otherwise go with Hack or Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Tyrod or Glennon, If not either of them Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, gEYno said: I'm going with Hackenberg. I think he's going to be terrible. So, either he crashes and burns and we get the #1 overall pick, or he proves me and others wrong and we have a QB for the future. I don't think it makes sense to take a QB at 6, and unless your plan is to win the Super Bowl this year, Culter and Romo are a terrible idea. My second choice would be Glennon, for potential upside, though I'm not overly optimistic. Glennon will probably be carrying too big of a price tag, and #6 and the old guys who don't suck quite as much as Jets QBs don't seem like particularly reliable solutions either. I agree regarding Hack in theory, but the Jets are never that lucky for it to turn out the way you suggest. The more likely scenario would be that Hackenberg looks wildly inconsistent, but has a few shining moments to give some a little hope and push the Jets to around 6 wins, ultimately putting them out of contention for a top pick/QB. The supporters cite the surrounding talent as the reason for his failures (e.g., if Marshall is sent packing, Hack didn't have enough weapons, if Marshall is kept, he was a quitter/problem/washed up), while others think he is already proven as an entirely lost cause. This carries on for at least another year or two until the process is repeated yet again, likely with a combination of a new draft pick and JAG veteran... and so the cycle continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I know. I know. But a fat man can dream? I am with you... just feel like anytime there is a player I want we never have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Stark said: I am with you... just feel like anytime there is a player I want we never have a chance I remember watching Michigan-Ohio State in 2007 and thinking this Vernon Gholston kid is exactly the kind of speed rusher that the Jets need, but can never get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: It should be a battle between Petty, Hack and whoever they draft. There's no reason to bring in a vet. We need to live and die with the young guys this year. This but Mac and Cheese Bowles are not going to allow it - they'll bring in another vet qb and if no other reason but to watch the message boards go up in flames, I'd want Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Maccagnan will want Hack to be the man. Bowies will want another Deone Buccanon. Jerry Jones will want Woody Johnson to give him a bunch of draft picks for Tony Romo's corpse. Welcome to New York, Tony Romo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman24 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 AJ McCarron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Ok, new plan: bring Pennington out of retirement, sign Sanchez, watch JN hit record-breaking post counts, profit (at least for Max) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan2482 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 13% for Hoyer ??? Jeez people! I'd rather Uncle Rico, heard he throws over mountains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 declare hackenberg the starter right away. Tell the QB coach if he doesn't get fined by the NFL 3 times for breaking the rules for off season contact, he's fired. fix his footwork, tell him he has 3 years to figure it out, so don't get all teary eyed when dick cimini rips you for a 3 INT performance. only way to get off the hamster wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hack is the ultimate answer for two reasons: if he's good, that's great; if he sucks out loud, that's great for 2018 draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Larz said: declare hackenberg the starter right away. Tell the QB coach if he doesn't get fined by the NFL 3 times for breaking the rules for off season contact, he's fired. fix his footwork, tell him he has 3 years to figure it out, so don't get all teary eyed when dick cimini rips you for a 3 INT performance. only way to get off the hamster wheel. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I want Hackenberg to be the guy to not only validate Mac's pick, but to finally end the Jets search for a franchise QB. In a worst case scenario, Hackenberg is terrible in 2017, Mac and Bowles will be fired, and the Jets will be free to start a new cycle of ineptitude in 2018 with a different GM and head coach with no franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I remember watching Michigan-Ohio State in 2007 and thinking this Vernon Gholston kid is exactly the kind of speed rusher that the Jets need, but can never get... You were exactly right. That's not the guy we got. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 If I had to decide today, I go with: #1 -- Bryce Petty #2 -- Christian Hackenberg #3 -- 2017 Mid-Round Draft Pick I do not overpay for Tyrod or Glennon. I do not reach at #6 for a QB. I do not blow myself up paying for Romo or Cutler. I don't waste my time with Hoyer, or Geno Mk. II or Fitz Mk. II. 2017 would be a year (at QB) dedicated to determining if Petty or Hack are worth anything. Play them till you know. The draft pick gives you another prospect to sit, let learn, and work with for 2018 if the #1 and #2 prove themselves incapable. I then revisit the "What to do?" question after 2017 with a real vision of what and who Petty and Hack are. Win or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Winner between Petty and Hack Then get ready for Darnold or Rosen for 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: Glennon will probably be carrying too big of a price tag, and #6 and the old guys who don't suck quite as much as Jets QBs don't seem like particularly reliable solutions either. I agree regarding Hack in theory, but the Jets are never that lucky for it to turn out the way you suggest. The more likely scenario would be that Hackenberg looks wildly inconsistent, but has a few shining moments to give some a little hope and push the Jets to around 6 wins, ultimately putting them out of contention for a top pick/QB. The supporters cite the surrounding talent as the reason for his failures (e.g., if Marshall is sent packing, Hack didn't have enough weapons, if Marshall is kept, he was a quitter/problem/washed up), while others think he is already proven as an entirely lost cause. This carries on for at least another year or two until the process is repeated yet again, likely with a combination of a new draft pick and JAG veteran... and so the cycle continues. If Hackenberg wins 6 games with this team, and shows some decent moments, I'd actually call that a win at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Glennon will probably be carrying too big of a price tag, and #6 and the old guys who don't suck quite as much as Jets QBs don't seem like particularly reliable solutions either. People (including reporters) keep saying that Glennon is going to get an Osweiler type of ridiculous deal. I honestly don't see it happening. Glennon hasn't started game in several years, and there are a lot of QBs that can be had via free agency or a trade. Glennon may come cheaper than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, gEYno said: I think this about covers everyone that's been talked about at one point or another as a possible starter. Is the question who do we want to be the starter or are we predicting who will be the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: Is the question who do we want to be the starter or are we predicting who will be the starter? Want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Larz said: declare hackenberg the starter right away. Tell the QB coach if he doesn't get fined by the NFL 3 times for breaking the rules for off season contact, he's fired. fix his footwork, tell him he has 3 years to figure it out, so don't get all teary eyed when dick cimini rips you for a 3 INT performance. only way to get off the hamster wheel. You are gonna take a bunch of crap for this, but I think you are spot on. Only thing I'll add, extend Macc and Bowles so they have the security to follow the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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