Pennington Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I don't want Eli or any other retread. Pay whatever it costs to get into the top 3 so we can land Rosen or Darnold. No signing a big money free agent and no waiting till the second round for the scraps like Falk and Browning who both suck. This franchise has screwed this position up for long enough. Stop being gutless losers and get a young franchise QB. The Niners pick is definitely in play and Cleveland may have the same thoughts after trying to trade for Macarron. I don't want to hear about Eli Manning or Alex Smith or even consider paying Cousins 200 million. Do the right thing for once and get this team a great young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Crimson King said: This would be like dating your older brother's ex-girlfriend after she got fat and old and he dumped her Besides, Eli needs another year to tutor Smith, his promising replacement Davis Webb is the QB he's mentoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I know I'll get bashed for this post but whatevs... The Giants might end up cleaning house after yesterday's brutal loss. If they end up getting a top draft pick and take someone like Darnold/Rosen, do you think they'd trade Eli? I get the feeling Eli still wants to play and I wouldn't be surprised if he could still do it. I'd rather have Eli than overpay for Cousins. And while I like Alex Smith, he might be overvalued considered the weapons he has in KC (which I'm guessing are inflating his #'s). I think Eli is a solid QB who stays on the field and has a history of playing well in big games. I'm not saying he's ideal but we could definitely do a lot worse. I have no idea what Eli would cost though. Would a 2nd rounder do the job? And I will say that if the price tag were equal, I'd probably take Alex Smith over Eli, just because he's younger. I just get the feeling KC will ask for a lot for Smith, given the season he's having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 That's what we need, another late 30's cast off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, KRL said: Don't want him He is an aging player, who, in his prime, was massively over rated. Yes, he has 2 SB wins, but his greatest play was throwing a ball high and late over the middle of the field that someone came down with. Is he better than anyone we have had in 20 years, yep. Is he, right now, that much better? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Davis Webb is the QB he's mentoring. uh ... I was joking but for the fun of it imagine Geno sticking there for a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Eli won 2 Superbowls. McCown went 2-20 in his previous 22 games before coming here. It's certainly possible Eli is a has-been but McCown is a never-was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 After this year, there will be nothing left of him to trade for. And why would we want a washed up ex-SB QB. We already had Boomer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 has anyone watched Eli play the past 5 years or so? and in that time he has had incredible weapons to throw to in most years. he was always overrated, a solid starter yes but now he's nearing the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: After this year, there will be nothing left of him to trade for. And why would we want a washed up ex-SB QB. We already had Boomer.... &... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pdxgreen Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, kelly said: &... Who was better though? Boomer had like 5 decent games and then went to the crap house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Eli won 2 Superbowls. McCown went 2-20 in his previous 22 games before coming here. It's certainly possible Eli is a has-been but McCown is a never-was. By the time you are talking about trading for him, Eli will probably have gone 1-15 in his previous 16 games. Balla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, kelly said: &... I am just glad Favre never appeared on TBBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 LOL please no.. and please stop making these threads. Would you?..... Should we?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: 2024 Don't be so hasty. My neighbor's nephew is the guy we need. He's only 12 years old but you can just tell he's going to be great when he's eligible for the NFL draft in 2026. We'd be fools to waste a first round pick on anyone until then. Build a perfect core around the QB position, and on defense as well, and then in 2025 we bench that entire core so we can get the #1 pick and take him. Added bonus is none of them will have injuries entering 2026, and they'll be super well rested. After a year of holding a clipboard as a rookie - we have to do this the right way so he isn't ruined - he'll start to show what he's got in year 2 a little, and by 2028 he'll be deadly good. And then we take the precious...and we be the master! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Ben McAdoo Doesn't Rule Out Benching Eli Manning for Davis Webb After Rams Loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I would rather cut off my left arm than have to watch Eli Manning as the Jets QB in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 47 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Don't be so hasty. My neighbor's nephew is the guy we need. He's only 12 years old but you can just tell he's going to be great when he's eligible for the NFL draft in 2026. We'd be fools to waste a first round pick on anyone until then. Build a perfect core around the QB position, and on defense as well, and then in 2025 we bench that entire core so we can get the #1 pick and take him. Added bonus is none of them will have injuries entering 2026, and they'll be super well rested. After a year of holding a clipboard as a rookie - we have to do this the right way so he isn't ruined - he'll start to show what he's got in year 2 a little, and by 2028 he'll be deadly good. And then we take the precious...and we be the master! Just saw a friends daughters sonogram.. kid looks legit...2039 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: I would rather cut off my left arm than have to watch Eli Manning as the Jets QB in 2018. High five! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 hours ago, kelly said: &... similar in one regard, Eli would be old and near the end when we acquired him but at least Favre was once great(something Eli never was) and he was coming off a good season and would have a great season after he left us to play for a team he wanted to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 12 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I know I'll get bashed for this post but whatevs... The Giants might end up cleaning house after yesterday's brutal loss. If they end up getting a top draft pick and take someone like Darnold/Rosen, do you think they'd trade Eli? I get the feeling Eli still wants to play and I wouldn't be surprised if he could still do it. I'd rather have Eli than overpay for Cousins. And while I like Alex Smith, he might be overvalued considered the weapons he has in KC (which I'm guessing are inflating his #'s). I think Eli is a solid QB who stays on the field and has a history of playing well in big games. I'm not saying he's ideal but we could definitely do a lot worse. I have no idea what Eli would cost though. Would a 2nd rounder do the job? And I will say that if the price tag were equal, I'd probably take Alex Smith over Eli, just because he's younger. I just get the feeling KC will ask for a lot for Smith, given the season he's having. Even Goober ain't that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: Even Goober ain't that stupid. If Eli were our QB this year, we'd probably be 6-3. Believe me, I want to draft a QB. I'm just not sure how we pull that off now. And both Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins (our other realistic options) will be expensive to acquire. Unless you want another year of McCown, where exactly are we going to go for our QB next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If Eli were our QB this year, we'd probably be 6-3. Believe me, I want to draft a QB. I'm just not sure how we pull that off now. And both Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins (our other realistic options) will be expensive to acquire. Unless you want another year of McCown, where exactly are we going to go for our QB next year? Given the level of competition they have played so far they should be 7-2 no matter who the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 52 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: Given the level of competition they have played so far they should be 7-2 no matter who the qb. With which QB that we could've realistically had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I’d trade our 1st this year and next for Eli, then bring back McCown to mentor-bridge-groom him for two seasons while he learns the speed of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I’d trade our 1st this year and next for Eli, then bring back McCown to mentor-bridge-groom him for two seasons while he learns the speed of the game. I'm sensing a little bit of sarcasm on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'm sensing a little bit of sarcasm on your part. Dead serious, just playing to my audience here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 21 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Eli won 2 Superbowls. McCown went 2-20 in his previous 22 games before coming here. It's certainly possible Eli is a has-been but McCown is a never-was. This year McCown has 4 wins w/ a team that was supposed to win 1 or 2, Eli has 1 win w/ a team that was supposed to be a Super Bowl contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Please no. He's 37 years old and his best days are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 22 hours ago, JiF said: The 2019 QB class is going to be rich. Once every 20 years type rich. Any QB needy team will be set. Especially if Darnold and Rosen return. So it’s all good in the hood. lol where did I hear this before? I think it was last year around this time? but it was about the 2018 draft class hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 17 hours ago, The Crusher said: Just saw a friends daughters sonogram.. kid looks legit...2039 but the question is............does she stand or kneel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 He's going to Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 saw this.. The dilemma facing Eli Manning when Giants do the inevitable > http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/the-dilemma-facing-eli-manning-when-giants-do-the-inevitable/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I have to say, ignoring McCown's age and injury and playing history, McCown is a better QB than Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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