You're the GM - Let's see your Top 6

[jetstream23]

Stack your board.  Assume the Jets do not address QB in free agency with anything other than a hold-the-fort guy like McCown, Keenum, etc.  If you were running the Jets who would you rank as your Top 6 players to Draft?

I'll take a shot...

1. J. Rosen

2. Darnold

3. S. Barkley

4. Josh Allen

5. B. Chubb

6. B. Mayfield

 

And I love Nelson at OG, but I asked myself if I would take him at #6 if any of these six guys were still available.  My answer was obviously no.

[redlichtie]

1 Rosen

2 Allen 

3 Barkley

4 Chubb

5 Davenport

6 Nelson/Mayfield

one of these QB’s is going to be a shocker and for me i’m not touching Darnold at all, he drops to the 20’s...I just din’t get what the hype is with him.

[BrickTamland]

Happy to play right after i take a look at the DL/LB combine workouts

[Grandy]

1: Darnold

2: Rosen

3: Allen

4: Barkley (He's the best player in the draft, just not a priority position)

5: Mayfield

6: Fitzpatrick

[Doggin94it]

Rosen

Mayfield

Darnold

Barkley

Chubb

Nelson

 

I want no part of Allen - you can't teach accuracy.  And Barkley is far and away the best player in the draft, but this team has to have a QB if one of the top 3 is there for them, so they're at the top of my board.  Followed by Barkley, then the game-wrecking pass rusher and the best OL in the draft

[maury77]

Rosen

Darnold

Chubb

Barkley

Mayfield

Allen

[RedBeardedSavage]

1 Sam Darnold

2 Saquon Barkley

3 Baker Mayfield 

4 Lamar Jackson 

5 Josh Rosen 

6 Harold Landry 

The only player I'd trade up for is Darnold.  I think Landry helped himself a lot at the combine.  I'm high on Jackson even if I think he'd have to sit for a year.  Ideally, I'd prefer whichever QB we draft to sit just like Pat Mahomes did last year.  

[Greenseed4]

This big board can’t be set until after FA! But that being said, if we miss out on a cap-strangling Kirk Cousins, and sign any of the former Vikings’ QBs...

1. Rosen

2. Barkley

3. Chubb

4. Mayfield 

5. Edmunds

6. Nelson

 

If we sign Kirk:

1. Barkley

2. Chubb

3. Nelson 

4. Edmunds

5. Josh Jackson

6. McGlinchey

[PepPep]

1. Darnold

2. Rosen

3. Chubb

4. Nelson

5. Mayfield

6. Allen

[ClemsonTiger1989]

Barkley

Rosen 

Chubb

Darnold

Mayfield

Nelson

[Sully80]

Darnold

Rosen

Barkley

Chubb

Mayfield 

Allen/Fitzpatrick (kind of a wash for me)

[Stark]

Rosen

Darnold

Barkley

Chubb

Mayfield

Nelson

[Beerfish]

Darnold

Rosen

Chubb

Nelson

Ward

Davenport

 

[Untouchable]

Assuming we don’t sign Cousins:

1. Darnold

2. Rosen

3. Mayfield

4. Allen

5. Barkley

6. Chubb

 

Assuming we do sign Cousins:

1. Barkley

2. Chubb

3. Nelson

4. Edmunds

5. McGlinchley

6. Ridley  

[nycdan]

34 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Assuming we don’t sign Cousins:

1. Darnold

2. Rosen

3. Mayfield

4. Allen

5. Barkley

6. Chubb

 

Assuming we do sign Cousins:

1. Barkley

2. Chubb

3. Nelson

4. Edmunds

5. McGlinchley

6. Ridley  

This is close enough for me.  Without Cousins, I exhaust all 4 QBs before going to Barkley at 5.  Chubb at 6 is probably the right pick there but I could see some other arguments being made by draft time.

The only change I'd make to the 'With Cousins' scenario is I wouldn't take Ridley.  He's the best WR prospect but I don't see him as a true #1 worth picking that high.  Maybe if he showed up a bit more in the Championship game, but he just doesn't feel like the next Julio Jones type game-changer so pass.  I might put Connor Williams in there but it really doesn't matter because you have to assume at least 2 QBs go in the top-5.

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, nycdan said:

This is close enough for me.  Without Cousins, I exhaust all 4 QBs before going to Barkley at 5.  Chubb at 6 is probably the right pick there but I could see some other arguments being made by draft time.

The only change I'd make to the 'With Cousins' scenario is I wouldn't take Ridley.  He's the best WR prospect but I don't see him as a true #1 worth picking that high.  Maybe if he showed up a bit more in the Championship game, but he just doesn't feel like the next Julio Jones type game-changer so pass.  I might put Connor Williams in there but it really doesn't matter because you have to assume at least 2 QBs go in the top-5.

Despite our desperation for a QB I'd have a very difficult time passing on a once in a generation player like Barkley just to take the 4th best QB in a draft.  I think a team could win with Barkley and an average QB (assuming strong defense, etc.) just like the Bears won with Walter Payton and Jim McMahon.  Barkley could end up carrying a team the way Barry Sanders did with Detroit.  He's a sure thing.

[PS17]

24 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Despite our desperation for a QB I'd have a very difficult time passing on a once in a generation player like Barkley just to take the 4th best QB in a draft.  I think a team could win with Barkley and an average QB (assuming strong defense, etc.) just like the Bears won with Walter Payton and Jim McMahon.  Barkley could end up carrying a team the way Barry Sanders did with Detroit.  He's a sure thing.

I love Saquon, but I think we need to stop with the "once in a generation" talk. In the past three drafts alone, Gurley, Zeke, and Fournette went top 10, all of whom were comparable prospects. 

Also in recent years we've seen do-it-all studs like Le'Veon Bell and David Johnson go in round 2 or 3. 

Not criticizing you, just a pet peeve seeing that term get worn out when there have been myriad special running backs come into the league over the past few years.

 

[nycdan]

27 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Despite our desperation for a QB I'd have a very difficult time passing on a once in a generation player like Barkley just to take the 4th best QB in a draft.  I think a team could win with Barkley and an average QB (assuming strong defense, etc.) just like the Bears won with Walter Payton and Jim McMahon.  Barkley could end up carrying a team the way Barry Sanders did with Detroit.  He's a sure thing.

It's a fair point to debate.  My first counter-argument is that Sanders never carried Detroit to a SB (and I think they won just 1 playoff game in his entire career).   Nor did AP with MIN (who I think also only won a single playoff game).  And as great as Payton was in 1985, I think the Bears' defense had a LOT to do with that season. 

The last RB who I feel carried an otherwise below average team to playoff success was probably Earl Campbell 40 years ago.  Not to say I don't think Barkley could be awesome and create a lot of wins which would otherwise be losses, but I don't think he can carry us to a SB without either a very good passing game or a great defense.  

[jetstream23]

6 minutes ago, PS17 said:

I love Saquon, but I think we need to stop with the "once in a generation" talk. In the past three drafts alone, Gurley, Zeke, and Fournette went top 10, all of whom were comparable prospects. 

Also in recent years we've seen do-it-all studs like Le'Veon Bell and David Johnson go in round 2 or 3. 

Not criticizing you, just a pet peeve seeing that term get worn out when there have been myriad special running backs come into the league over the past few years.

 

No problem, I certainly don't take it as criticism and I understand your point.  I look at where Hunt, Kamara, etc. were drafted and I think the same thing - that we should be able to find a very good RB later (Round 2 should be full of them this year).  But I do think Barkley is head and shoulders above Fournette, Elliott, and others.  He just seems different and I think it would be very Jet-like to pass up a potential All Pro player in order to get the 4th consolation prize at QB after several better ones were taken.  JMHO.

[jetstream23]

3 minutes ago, nycdan said:

It's a fair point to debate.  My first counter-argument is that Sanders never carried Detroit to a SB (and I think they won just 1 playoff game in his entire career).   Nor did AP with MIN (who I think also only won a single playoff game).  And as great as Payton was in 1985, I think the Bears' defense had a LOT to do with that season. 

The last RB who I feel carried an otherwise below average team to playoff success was probably Earl Campbell 40 years ago.  Not to say I don't think Barkley could be awesome and create a lot of wins which would otherwise be losses, but I don't think he can carry us to a SB without either a very good passing game or a great defense.  

Again, I value differences in opinion, and if it came down to whether Barkley was a good a pick as the Top QB (whoever that is in your opinion) then it's not a debate.  But when we're talking about the QB leftovers after the top guys have been taken then I find it hard to stomach passing on a guy like Barkley.  I'd rather take Barkley than the 4th best QB....and then trade up with both our 2nd rounders to get the 5th or 6th best QB.

[New York Mick]

If they get Keenum 

Barkley

Nelson

Ridley

Offense only or trade down  

 

[nycdan]

So as rumors start to pick up that the Jets do have a shot at Cousins, I'll actually think about the 'With Cousins' scenario a little more.

There are two scenarios for me.  If one of the premium QBs is still on the board and we have Cousins, I would seriously look to trade down.  For example, ARI is at #15 and #47.  I would take those two picks and a 2019 2nd rounder to trade with them.  Or maybe CIN at #12 and #46 plus a 2019 3rd rounder decides to go for it.  In the 12-15 range you can get a player you might have taken at 6.  McGlinchey or Williams, maybe Nelson, Ridley, Davenport or Roquan Smith.  There will be a good player there.  Or with extra picks in the pail, try to move back up a bit for Edmunds or Ward if they drop close enough. 

If all 4 QBs are gone in the top-5, then it's Barkley for sure if he's there.  I would run a 4.32 dash to the podium.  If no Barkley and no QB, then I assume there's no great trade-down option although I'd still try, and I would take Chubb.

 

[BigO]

1 Darnold ...Browns will not pass on a QB this time with the new GM and Sam is the safest QB to pick. 

2 Rosen..Giants need Eli’s Successor- no brainer.

3 Barkley..... Colts present a Gift for Luck. 

4 Chubb ....Browns DL scary with Garrett and Chubb

5 Mayfield....Broncos lose out on Cousins to Vikes. Take next best QB available.

6 Nelson ....Jets take BAP in Nelson and  begin reworking a meager OL.

[HessStation]

Without Cousins

1. Rosen

2. Mayfield

3. Darnold

4. Jackson

5. Allen

6. Barkley

 

With Cousins

1. Barkley

2. Ridley

3. Nelson

4. Gesicki

5. Andrews

6. McGlinchey

[nyjbuddy]

Darnold

Rosen

Barkley

Mayfield

Chubb

Ward

[Lupz27]

On 3/4/2018 at 1:47 PM, jetstream23 said:

Stack your board.  Assume the Jets do not address QB in free agency with anything other than a hold-the-fort guy like McCown, Keenum, etc.  If you were running the Jets who would you rank as your Top 6 players to Draft?

I'll take a shot...

1. J. Rosen

2. Darnold

3. S. Barkley

4. Josh Allen

5. B. Chubb

6. B. Mayfield

 

And I love Nelson at OG, but I asked myself if I would take him at #6 if any of these six guys were still available.  My answer was obviously no.

None or the QB’s would be a top my board, but are we asking for a top 6 based on talent or who you would pick?  Position should trump talent in certain situations.  I’m passing on Barkley for Rosen, Darnold, and Allen thou Barkley would be #1 on my board, and I’d take like 10 different players before Nelson even thou Nelson would be #2 on my board.

3. Is Edge Chubb

4. Is CB Ward

5. Is LB Edmunds

6. Is DT Vea