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2 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

But he’s not responsible because the team has injuries. Haven’t you read the board?

It's possible to take any position you want on any coach or player.

Like an underperforming player? It's because he doesn't have weaponz or good coaching.

Like an underperforming HC? The players haven't bought into the system, injuries, GM didn't give him enough to work with.

Like an underperforming GM? The HC doesn't know how to cook a meal from great ingredients.

This is why it's best to cut through the BS and adopt the Parcellian approach "You are what your record says you are." And the record says Gase is el stinko.

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Jay totally mishandled the QB situation - publicly stated they were staying with the vet and then pull him in the second quarter of the next game  - throwing their #1 pick into the fire with no preparation and it showed

While on the other side of the ball, the Giants, made the change and gave Jones a full week to prepare and looked much better than Haskins despite similar draft status

definition of a Career Limiting Move

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32 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Jay totally mishandled the QB situation - publicly stated they were staying with the vet and then pull him in the second quarter of the next game  - throwing their #1 pick into the fire with no preparation and it showed

While on the other side of the ball, the Giants, made the change and gave Jones a full week to prepare and looked much better than Haskins despite similar draft status

definition of a Career Limiting Move

He won’t play Haskins despite the fact that Keenum stinks and McCoy is even worse

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Jay Gruden was there for six years. If Gase is still scuffling after six years, they should certainly fire him 

The funny thing is I dont think theres anyone here who would advocate sitting through a season and a 1/2 of this let alone 6 years. 

You dont fire a coach after 4 games in which hes lost his #1 and #2 QB.  It's that simple.

 

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2 hours ago, New York Mick said:

They’re talking about it on NFL radio.

Even with all the injuries they still believe the team should go a different direction.

 They lose to the patriots, have a bunch of injuries and are missing their best OT and they still fire him. 
 

Does this mean coaches can be held accountable in those situations?

Yes, but remember he's been there for a few years not a few games

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Jay Gruden was there for six years. If Gase is still scuffling after six years, they should certainly fire him 

This, and... is Dan Snyder the guy you want Jets ownership to emulate? 

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2 hours ago, jgb said:

It's possible to take any position you want on any coach or player.

Like an underperforming player? It's because he doesn't have weaponz or good coaching.

Like an underperforming HC? The players haven't bought into the system, injuries, GM didn't give him enough to work with.

Like an underperforming GM? The HC doesn't know how to cook a meal from great ingredients.

This is why it's best to cut through the BS and adopt the Parcellian approach "You are what your record says you are." And the record says Gase is el stinko.

Does that mean when Vinny went down in 1999 and the Jets started 1-6 the Tuna was el stinko??

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40 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

Does that mean when Vinny went down in 1999 and the Jets started 1-6 the Tuna was el stinko??

This is like comparing steak with roadkill. I'm actually talking about Gase's lifetime record. Anyone can hit a rough 4 games. Gase is a 44% lifetime winner--only 5% higher than Todd Bowles, or less than one extra win per season. Parcells is a 57% winner (plus two Super Bowls). Proof that you can deliver does give you a longer leash. That's not football, that's life.

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