bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I got to thinking the other day about Avery. We'll either pay him $8.5m or we save $6.5m if we cut him, and I'm not sure I see Douglas wanting to pay 2 LBs top 15 money. The nice thing about Avery's contract, at least as far as I can tell, is that we can release him at any point and save that $6.5m. If I'm Douglas I hold onto him until the draft, if an OL that you like is available at #9 I'd be calling the Jaguars to move up to leap the Browns. Apparently one of their areas of weakness is their LB core. I'd offer #11 and Avery (who would only be a $6.5m cap hit for them) to get up to #9. Realistically they will get the same player they probably would have gotten at #9 anyway and pick up a starting LB. Is that reasonable or is a LB coming off an ACL tear not worth it for them to slide down 2 picks? For reference the Draft Trade Value Chart has the move from #11 to #9 as 100 points which would put Avery's value as the late 3rd (pick 100 to be exact) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Spending money hasn’t been a problem for the Jets in a long time, it’s finding deserving players willing to take it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 I love when people are on a first name basis with players. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetster Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: I love when people are on a first name basis with players. The real question is what are we going to do with Robbie? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Sounds like a show my wife would watch on HGTV. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: I love when people are on a first name basis with players. Sam, Robby, Q, CJ, LeVeon - it all makes sense to me given the context of a Jets forum 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetster said: The real question is what are we going to do with Robbie? I think we as a fan base should have made a determination on his name haha he uses Robby but I've seen fans use Robbie. Too damn confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, jgb said: Spending money hasn’t been a problem for the Jets in a long time, it’s finding deserving players willing to take it. Ah so you think we'll retain him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Jetster said: The real question is what are we going to do with Robbie? I know what I'd like to do with her. 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 Try to trade Williamson if you can. Doubt we'd get anything more than a 6th rounder if we tried to move him, in which case that isn't a worthwhile avenue. I'd maybe try to re-work his deal. Cutting him outright makes no sense to me. Just 2 years ago he was one of the top 2 players on the defense. You don't just get rid of someone like that for nothing. It's insane that many of you want to bring back Robby on huge money and hand Jamal $17M+ but somehow draw the line on paying a worthy ILB $6.5M? Why, because we have some depth at the position, and need that money to try to sign players who will never end up here, like Jack Conklin? Ridiculous. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post section314 Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Try to trade Williamson if you can. Doubt we'd get anything more than a 6th rounder if we tried to move him. Otherwise maybe try to re-work his deal. Cutting him outright makes no sense to me. Just 2 years ago he was one of the top 2 players on the defense. You don't just get rid of someone like that for nothing. It's insane that many of you want to bring back Robby on huge money and hand Jamal $17M+ but somehow draw the line on paying a worthy ILB $8.5M? Why, because we have some depth at the position, and need that money to try to sign players who will never end up here, like Jack Conklin? Ridiculous. I agree. Plus, who really knows how healthy Mosley is gonna be, or when he may really be available? Avery sounds like he will be ready, and may be insurance as well as being a really good player. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Can we unload CJ and keep Avery? Measley and Chris Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Wouldn't mind doing this. I like Avery and all, but eventually we have to start redistributing salaries - away from the ILB's, Safeties & DT's. Can't see the Jets getting more than a 6th for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, RichardTodd27 said: Wouldn't mind doing this. I like Avery and all, but eventually we have to start redistributing salaries - away from the ILB's, Safeties & DT's. Can't see the Jets getting more than a 6th for him. Agreed, which is why we should trade Jamal. Avery isn't a major hindrance on our ability to attack premium positions of need the next few offseasons. He comes off the books after 2020 one way or another. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: I love when people are on a first name basis with players. Are we only allowed to use last names? lil help. I merely seek to understand the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I would much rather pay two Averys than Mosley and Cashman, but we are stuck with Mosley, so I don’t see how we can pay two of them. Avery is likely not on the team in 2021. An extra draft pick is a cheap roster fill. Would rather do that. but we need to consider how much Hewitt and Burgess cost. If we can get both for the price of Avery, so that. i see the Jets getting more players at medium prices rather than a few expensive ones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Try to trade Williamson if you can. Doubt we'd get anything more than a 6th rounder if we tried to move him, in which case that isn't a worthwhile avenue. I'd maybe try to re-work his deal. Cutting him outright makes no sense to me. Just 2 years ago he was one of the top 2 players on the defense. You don't just get rid of someone like that for nothing. It's insane that many of you want to bring back Robby on huge money and hand Jamal $17M+ but somehow draw the line on paying a worthy ILB $6.5M? Why, because we have some depth at the position, and need that money to try to sign players who will never end up here, like Jack Conklin? Ridiculous. Agreed but Avery is $8.5m not $6.5m but the point is still valid. I guess my question is more so would the Jaguars even entertain the offer? or is Avery's stock too low for them to roll the dice on a quality LB while getting their same player at #11 instead of #9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Try to trade Williamson if you can. Doubt we'd get anything more than a 6th rounder if we tried to move him, in which case that isn't a worthwhile avenue. I'd maybe try to re-work his deal. Cutting him outright makes no sense to me. Just 2 years ago he was one of the top 2 players on the defense. You don't just get rid of someone like that for nothing. It's insane that many of you want to bring back Robby on huge money and hand Jamal $17M+ but somehow draw the line on paying a worthy ILB $6.5M? Why, because we have some depth at the position, and need that money to try to sign players who will never end up here, like Jack Conklin? Ridiculous. Why don't you think Conklin would come here? It's absolutely realistic imo. That aside, the only thing I see as an obstacle toward keeping Williamson is the Mosely contract and how much JD feels is appropriate to allot to the mlb as a position. Not seeing AW and Mosely on the field together was one of the biggest disappointments of this last season to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I do not think the Jaguars would entertain that offer. Not like anyone thinks the Jets would get a third round pick in a trade for Williamson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Why don't you think Conklin would come here? It's absolutely realistic imo. 1. He's probably signing back with Tennessee. 2. Even if he doesn't, there's a lot of teams with cap space and need a RT. This isn't like last offseason where we have more cap space than everybody else. The Mosley contract ensured that. He'll have a pick of a lot of destinations. Why would he choose here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Agreed but Avery is $8.5m not $6.5m but the point is still valid. I guess my question is more so would the Jaguars even entertain the offer? or is Avery's stock too low for them to roll the dice on a quality LB while getting their same player at #11 instead of #9 Averys injury was the start of some bad Mojo. See what happens when you have too many Williamsons? Gotta use 1st names, one gets hurt, the other gets traded. And Q Williams lost his son somewhere along the line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Agreed but Avery is $8.5m not $6.5m but the point is still valid. I guess my question is more so would the Jaguars even entertain the offer? or is Avery's stock too low for them to roll the dice on a quality LB while getting their same player at #11 instead of #9 The $2M is already his whether we cut him or not. The question is whether we pay him the $6.5M or cut him. And we'd need a lot more than just Avery Williamson to jump from 11 to 9. Williamson probably has no more than a 5th round value based on his age, contract, and last year's injury. We'd need to throw in another pick too for them to entertain an offer like that. OR they'd just want picks, not Avery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Agreed, which is why we should trade Jamal. Avery isn't a major hindrance on our ability to attack premium positions of need the next few offseasons. He comes off the books after 2020 one way or another. TROLL OF THE YEAR AWARD Every thread is about Jamal Adams SHUT UP ALREADY. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I'd take a 6th round pick for him right now. We have guys here right now that can replace him with no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 We need to cut Avery before FA. Used his figures to desperately patch our OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It’s almost as if the Jets should have never wasted money on Mosley or Le’Veon Bell. Weird. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Sam, Robby, Q, CJ, LeVeon - it all makes sense to me given the context of a Jets forum It's fine if: 1) he's your buddy 2) hes attained a certain stature 3) he's a Brazilian soccer player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Are we only allowed to use last names? lil help. I merely seek to understand the rules. No, its just dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: It’s almost as if the Jets should have never wasted money on Mosley or Le’Veon Bell. Weird. A house with no foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: It's fine if: 1) he's your buddy 2) hes attained a certain stature 3) he's a Brazilian soccer player There are some additional exceptions. Calling this guy KGB was legit. And then sometimes it takes two to tango: and honorable mention goes to: 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: We need to cut Avery before FA. Used his figures to desperately patch our OL. Cutting Avery won't give us much help towards rebuilding the OL in the short-term. Saving $6.5M won't make a big difference there, and I doubt any high-profile FA's are coming here anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Cutting Avery won't give us much help towards rebuilding the OL in the short-term. Saving $6.5M won't make a big difference there, and I doubt any high-profile FA's are coming here anyways. We save $8.5 mil in cash spending and $6.5 mil in cap spending. $8.5 mil is a lot of money. A couple mil more can place you in a bracket to sign the top G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 In my mind he’s an obvious cut. the replacement players for him held the line, they’re young and cheap and we have several of them when did $6.5 million not become a lot of money. That’s a starting Guard salary, which btw we need 2 of. we have enough salary in the middle of the defense already. I don’t think any team trades for him but I’d take anything and if not then cut him. great guy, good player, wish him the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: We save $8.5 mil in cash spending and $6.5 mil in cap spending. $8.5 mil is a lot of money. A couple mil more can place you in a bracket to sign the top G. The $2M is Avery's regardless. We'd only save $6.5M. 4 minutes ago, David Harris said: when did $6.5 million not become a lot of money. That’s a starting Guard salary, which btw we need 2 of. There aren't really any quality FA Guard candidates at the moment. Scherff is average at best and will want to be paid like a top 5 G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Jets fan Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 I just can not understand why posters always want to get rid of good players. Also why posters think any good players suck as soon as they put in a jets jersey. avery and cj are both great players. personally I would love to see this D with both healthy, Adams, Q with a better CB and a edge rusher., but hey, why have a top defense. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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