Popular Post JetNation Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 A polarizing topic this week, the case for Gase. GreenBean wanted Mike McCarthy after Todd Bowles was fired. Adam Gase didn’t seem to be the first choice on many lists. The reality is that Gase is here and GreenBean gives a few examples of times that Adam Gase stood up and took the heat to protect others. All the coaches are back, Adam Gase is sticking with his plan. There is some new talent on this roster and let’s see what Gase can do this year. Watch the video and let us know what you think about the case for Gase. The post The Case for Gase appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Bravo. And keep the hat with the new logo; it's time to get onboard and move forward. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 "Lets see what Gase can do this year"...my sentiments too. Don't have a dog in this fight of..."pro Gase vs anti Gase" pissing contest...of who's the smart ones that gets it right. With a crap OL...loss of Herndon...and a zombie RB in Bell. Plus...the creme de la creme...a mono QB...that lead to a 1-7 start. Yet the team held together...finishing the 2nd half season 6-2. So...I'm still curious...why Peyton Manning considered Gase...to have an impressive offensive mind. IMO, there's enough pieces JD has provided Gase this offseason...that we should be able to see what he can do. As well as Darnold too. Jets have enough team balance this year...to compete..and win...the AFCE. Looking forward to see what happens. Oh...hat 2 please? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Good old Adam "square peg in round hole" Gase… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Good points Beanz. Alot of us have been willing to give Gase time to create something here, it's the logical thing to do. I like hat 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 about the only thing you can say against gase is that bowles didn't exactly have a great cast to work with either. he did have a winning record in year one but after that did nothing. and it's pretty clear that mac did a horrible job of bringing in good players, especially those needed at key positions. let's see what gase can do. if can build on the 6-2 finish then the jets probably found their keeper. the key will be having a team that is consistently good in all facets. and i will say i think it's huge that they didn't have a turnover of position coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 As I posted in the other thread where you video landed... excellent job @GREENBEAN 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said: Good points Beanz. Alot of us have been willing to give Gase time to create something here, it's the logical thing to do. I like hat 1 Unfortunately, it is the only thing to do. He's under contract. He's "rich" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, GreenReaper said: "Lets see what Gase can do this year"...my sentiments too. There seems to be an odd misconception that we, fans, in some way have a choice on that. Or that critical/doubting fans somehow think Gase will be fired now. We don't. We ALL will "see what happens" this year, like it or lump it. It doesn't have to be an individual sentiment, it's just a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA33 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Good points Beans, let's see what happens. By the way those wings of yours are more like Bentley wings! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 hours ago, GreenReaper said: "Lets see what Gase can do this year"...my sentiments too. Don't have a dog in this fight of..."pro Gase vs anti Gase" pissing contest...of who's the smart ones that gets it right. With a crap OL...loss of Herndon...and a zombie RB in Bell. Plus...the creme de la creme...a mono QB...that lead to a 1-7 start. Yet the team held together...finishing the 2nd half season 6-2. So...I'm still curious...why Peyton Manning considered Gase...to have an impressive offensive mind. IMO, there's enough pieces JD has provided Gase this offseason...that we should be able to see what he can do. As well as Darnold too. Jets have enough team balance this year...to compete..and win...the AFCE. Looking forward to see what happens. Oh...hat 2 please? Zombie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said: Zombie Zombies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I'd just like to know what Adam Gase has done in his hc career to give anyone any real enthusiasm for him other than crossing fingers and hoping. He essentially has had one year of real success and that was as a QB coach for Peyton Manning, years ago. The parts of the team that did well last year had little to do with Gase. We are wasting our time with this guy. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The case for gase is a body bag in the east river...if his body needs a case that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 He's a bad coach and his history as a HC proves that beyond a reasonable doubt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 Apropos of nothing, Rex Ryan was here for six seasons and had a winning record in only two of those, but he was beloved because he kissed the fans’ asses and spoke like a backwoods honky-tonk bouncer and too many people ate it up. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, GreenReaper said: "Lets see what Gase can do this year"...my sentiments too. Don't have a dog in this fight of..."pro Gase vs anti Gase" pissing contest...of who's the smart ones that gets it right. With a crap OL...loss of Herndon...and a zombie RB in Bell. Plus...the creme de la creme...a mono QB...that lead to a 1-7 start. Yet the team held together...finishing the 2nd half season 6-2. So...I'm still curious...why Peyton Manning considered Gase...to have an impressive offensive mind. IMO, there's enough pieces JD has provided Gase this offseason...that we should be able to see what he can do. As well as Darnold too. Jets have enough team balance this year...to compete..and win...the AFCE. Looking forward to see what happens. Oh...hat 2 please? Same sentiments here. I could make a 10 minute argument FOR Gase and a 10 minute argument AGAINST Gase. What I will say though is that last year's excuses are no longer acceptable (poor roster, injuries, players that don't fit his system, Mono, etc.). The roster is now significantly more aligned to the types of guys he wants. And, even if this roster is still just below average, the Jets have largely purged guys that don't fit. I don't know if the Jets will win more than 8 games given a schedule that includes both Super Bowl teams, games on the road vs. the Rams, Seahawks, etc. but I expect them to look significantly better....and if they don't then we're looking for a new HC come 2021. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Apropos of nothing, Rex Ryan was here for six seasons and had a winning record in only two of those, but he was beloved because he kissed the fans’ asses and spoke like a backwoods honky-tonk bouncer and too many people ate it up. Whoa! That sounds like a swipe at Rex Ryan. And...you take a swipe at one of ours, T0m, we're going to take a swipe at two of yours!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Apropos of nothing, Rex Ryan was here for six seasons and had a winning record in only two of those, but he was beloved because he kissed the fans’ asses and spoke like a backwoods honky-tonk bouncer and too many people ate it up. That plus he made back-to-back AFC championship games while winning 4 playoff games on the road (including at New England plus beating Peyton Manning). And 2 of those were with a rookie QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Apropos of nothing, Rex Ryan was here for six seasons and had a winning record in only two of those, but he was beloved because he kissed the fans’ asses and spoke like a backwoods honky-tonk bouncer and too many people ate it up. Adam Gase went 6-2 down the stretch, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 It's not like I have a choice but this is definitely the year where Gase better show something or else I'll be livid if they don't fire him (not that the organization cares, of course). No more excuses! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Apropos of nothing, Rex Ryan was here for six seasons and had a winning record in only two of those, but he was beloved because he kissed the fans’ asses and spoke like a backwoods honky-tonk bouncer and too many people ate it up. Here's what I ate... Rex took a good talented team he inherited...and sent the Jets into back-to-back AFCCGs. Quaterbacked by a backup talent in Sanchez...that had only 16 college starts to boot. Outside of Supe 3...Jets never had this level of success before. He saw the talents of Revis...and schemed his defense around him. To compensate for a mediocre pass rush. Thus was born Revis Island...and Jets defense was transformed into a #1 and #3 one...in '09 and '10 seasons respectively. That's what I swallowed. That's what suckered me in. Everything else you said about Rex Ryan is true. He was an excellent DC...and never a legit HC. After those two playoff seasons...he was given too much power. And because he was Buddy Ryan's son...the offense went to sh!!t! Tannenbaum was a weak GM. With no vision for the team. He was nothing more then a facilitator for the whims and wants of Ryan and Woody. Thus...the Tebow Circus was allowed. Rex insisted that he have the 5th pick of every draft...to choose his very own toy to play with. And away we go! Eventually...the handsome attire he acquired from those playoff seasons...was stripped away...he was now in his long johns...for all to see. And Mercifully...he deservedly got fired. Again...it wasn't the aw-shucks hokiness that attracted me to Rex. No...I put up with that. It was those AFCCG appearances Rex provided...that as a desperate Jets fan like me...thirsted for! A chance to get into the Supe! Like I've said in a few posts before. This is the Last Dance. JD the last GM NYJ I trust. To transform the Jets into a perennial playoff team. That will one day land into the Supe...and hoist the Lombardi Trophy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Like I've said in a few posts before. This is the Last Dance. JD the last GM NYJ I trust. To transform the Jets into a perennial playoff team. That will one day land into the Supe...and hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Sorry...but I have to do this. Really, I do feel bad but you left me no choice. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I was on a Chargers board and two guys were arguing about who had been a bigger critic of Gase, sooner. Like it was as cool as being hip to some band before somebody else. He need to really start to turn this thing around. I mean even teams without any fans are coming after him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, nycdan said: Sorry...but I have to do this. Really, I do feel bad but you left me no choice. Download video I know this will be boring as hell to put up with. Your attention span will wane I'm sure. Sorry...but I have to do this...I can't resist...this Last Dance... Download video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The problem comes down to the entire argument for Gase is nothing more than an endless stream of excuses, which is why it will never mean much of anything to me. He's got at least one more year, so I'll put up with it, as we all will no matter what we think, and will certainly hope for the best, but have little reason to feel much optimism that that will ever come. In the end, the sole positive on Gase's entire coaching resume has been him being one of the many nameless OCs who stood by and watched Manning run the offense himself, none of whom similarly had the least bit of coaching success elsewhere. After all, who exactly would like the Jets HC to instead be Tom Moore, Clyde Christensen, Mike McCoy, or Rick Dennison? Yeah, I didn't think so, and he's really no different than any of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WowOhWow Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 There is literally no case for Gase. None. But he will be our HC next year. I don't think anything is guaranteed for him after this upcoming season and, in my opinion, will have to earn his 3rd year. I don't see JD waiting on this guy if he doesn't produce this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 @GREENBEAN Hat #2 gets my vote. I have the same one, only I bought the one made by '47 Brand. I stopped buying New Era products once they let my nephew go. I had to do the same thing with Under Armour Products. If the kid doesn't learn how to hold onto a job soon, I'm going to be running out of options... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, FidelioJet said: He's a bad coach and his history as a HC proves that beyond a reasonable doubt. what record do you predict for them this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, GreenReaper said: I know this will be boring as hell to put up with. Your attention span will wane I'm sure. Sorry...but I have to do this...I can't resist...this Last Dance... Download video That was RIVETING!!! (the blonde looks just like my first baby momma though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: what record do you predict for them this year? You know, that’s a really good question. I haven’t thought about it much and there are so many variables. With that said, I think we’re going to have a top 10 defense, possibly even top 5. Offense, while I expect Sam to step up and Mims to have a solid rookie season. I’m still concerned about the OLine and Gase will certainly hold them back. So, with all of that said, probably 6 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Whoa! That sounds like a swipe at Rex Ryan. And...you take a swipe at one of ours, T0m, we're going to take a swipe at two of yours!! What if he only has one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 35 minutes ago, WowOhWow said: There is literally no case for Gase. None. 6-2 after 1-7 has him in talks for an extension. One of the greatest coaching accomplishments in Jets history. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: That plus he made back-to-back AFC championship games while winning 4 playoff games on the road (including at New England plus beating Peyton Manning). And 2 of those were with a rookie QB. He went to those AFC championship games his first two years. He won with who I believe were Mangini's players. When he started to make the decisions on player personnel, he went downhill, knocking Tannenbaum right off the mountain. He should have been gone at that time also. His last few years he was nothing but a party joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: 6-2 after 1-7 has him in talks for an extension. One of the greatest coaching accomplishments in Jets history. SAR I I think the only other team to top that was the one in which Vinny Testaverde, blew out his Achilles in the first game of the season. Then the team went into a dive...bottomed out at 1-7. Then rallied...and reversed that...to a 7-1 2nd half finish. That 8-8 season...was probably the best coaching of Parcells career. But "sh!!tty" Gase...only managed to bounce back from 1-7 start...with a 6-2 finish. Parcells goes to Canton. Gase gets quartered and lynched...in just about every 2-3 page thread. Lol...the irony in that? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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