Training Camp Tweets 8/30 Green and White Scrimmage (jk it’s just a practice) Edition

[kdels62]

I don’t know who this could be about @T0mShane

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

No but Lawrence is so overhyped it's ridiculous.... He is not Peyton... Let's try to stick with the first high qb the jets have drafted since Sanchez for more then 2 broken seasons before we start thinking about the next big bust

He is absolutely up there with Luck and Peyton.

I agree with sticking with Sam.  It's my preference.  I also understand that Joe Douglas and whoever the next HC will be have no attachment whatsoever to Sam, and if we're picking first overall, the chances of Douglas and the new HC hitching their wagon to him are slim to none with Lawrence sitting there.  It's simply the political part of the sport.  

[T0mShane]

Just now, kdels62 said:

I don’t know who this could be about @T0mShane

They hated Adams so much. 

[Paradis]

Just now, Mogglez said:

From what I understand, JuJu would absolutely LOVE to pair himself with Sam once again.

Greg Roman HC with Sam, Chase and JuJu?

?.

No porn here please XD

I think the reunion is a nice dream and probably does have some weight to it, but when agents dig in and start talking about positioning yourself for an extension in 2024, and current regimes and stuff... 

Let me put it this way, if Sam and some of players here don't show up this year... we'll be lucky to land an overpaid 32 year old AJ Green

[T0mShane]

Just now, Mogglez said:

He is absolutely up there.

I agree with sticking with Sam.  It's my preference.  I also understand that Joe Douglas and whoever the next HC will be have no attachment whatsoever to Sam, and if we're picking first overall, the chances of Douglas and the new HC hitching their wagon to him are slim to none with Lawrence sitting there.  It's the political part of the sport.  

I think the biggest difference between Sam and Lawrence is in their disposition. Darnold acts like it would be really cool if they won, but Lawrence thinks he’s supposed to win. Different mentalities.

[Mogglez]

Just now, Paradis said:

No porn here please XD

I think the reunion is a nice dream and probably does have some weight to it, but when agents dig in and start talking about positioning yourself for an extension in 2024, and current regimes and stuff... 

Let me put it this way, if Sam and some of players here don't show up this year... we'll be lucky to land an overpaid 32 year old AJ Green

Yeah man I get it lol, it's why I'm not trying to get my hopes up too much.

Totally agree with the second part.  If Sam falters badly, we can probably kiss the Chase dream goodbye as well :(.

[Jet Nut]

41 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

The Giants ?

True, it is their stadium the we play in after all.   ?

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the biggest difference between Sam and Lawrence is in their disposition. Darnold acts like it would be really cool if they won, but Lawrence thinks he’s supposed to win. Different mentalities.

I don't want to turn this into a Sam vs Lawrence thread, but there's just soooooo much to love about Trevor that this image makes my WAP extra wet:

[Losmeister]

21 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Agree with this as well.  My expectations are higher than "hey, our offense marginally improved from last year's horrendous showing. We're on the right track." 

Almost every single young QB around this league is in a better position than Sam, except Tua, who will sit and learn, and it's due to nothing more than gross negligence.  

hard to reverse gross negligence in one off season and draft...

[Paradis]

Just now, Mogglez said:

If Sam falters badly, we can probably kiss the Chase dream goodbye as well :(.

This is a bigger challenge that many understand IMO... we're asking a young QB, who's dealt with significant inconsistency around him, to stand on his head with a team of largely scrubs and an incompetent HC who's offense has annually been at the bottom in production.

It's pretty scary actually. Closer to full reboot in 2021 than I want to admit. 

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the biggest difference between Sam and Lawrence is in their disposition. Darnold acts like it would be really cool if they won, but Lawrence thinks he’s supposed to win. Different mentalities.

when you play with the talent that lawrence played with you better think you should win.

[Mogglez]

1 minute ago, Losmeister said:

hard to reverse gross negligence in one off season and draft...

Agreed.  I just wanted to see a little more agression in the first off-season from JD.

[Losmeister]

26 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Lawrence is the only QB I'm sacrificing Sam for.  Fields and Lance just aren't ready, IMO.

 

*Edit*

I have no idea why @Skeptable thumbs downed this post.  I am firmly in Sam's corner.  That being said, if we're in a position to draft Trevor, Sam failed miserably.

Skept is a child and neg reps anything that says anything remotely deviant from Sam is Savior....

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

This is a bigger challenge that many understand IMO... we're asking a young QB, who's dealt with significant inconsistency around him, to stand on his head with a team of largely scrubs and an incompetent HC who's offense has annually been at the bottom in production.

It's pretty scary actually. Closer to full reboot in 2021 than I want to admit. 

IMO, this will be a fairly attractive job in 2021 if they fire Gase

[jeremy2020]

1 hour ago, Jetlife33 said:

Agreed. The most important thing is getting injured players back. Poole being back today is huge. If Darnold balls out week 1 and beats the bills no ones going to remember a few bad practices in late august. 

Ahh, the call of the SOJF....if this guy does this in the future then all his current bad play won't matter! It's a perfect argument because, of course, the possibility, no matter how unlikely based on history can't be argued with because...there is always the possibility and he did something good that one time that showed "he can do it!" and "has shown flashes"!

Don't confuse excuses with results. 

Darnold could be a good QB, but he hasn't been so far. That there are things outside of his control that may have contributed to that don't matter. Same with Geno and the JN cry of "Geno just needs weapons!" and "you can't know hackenberg is a bad QB because he's never played!". 

[Losmeister]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the far majority of teams are in awful shape if one of their top two receivers goes down. Off the top of my head, the only teams that wouldn’t be screwed are Pittsburgh, Tampa, and Dallas. 

THIS

[Jet Nut]

36 minutes ago, slats said:

Their top three guys are out right now with two of them due back well before the opener. I feel your current anxiety, and also wanted moar WR in the draft, but I’m not ready to say he’s botched it, yet.  

You should get a phone call every night and hearing the anxiety.  Much worse than the occasional post.  Please forward your number to @Mogglez my son needs therapy.  LOL

[Paradis]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, this will be a fairly attractive job in 2021 if they fire Gase

Remember when we said the same thing about the job post-Bowels? Thank you again, Macc. 

[Jet Nut]

35 minutes ago, fusionCA said:

Maye is injured? 

 

i am shocked , this kind of thing never happen to Maye...

Its a tight calf muscle.  Calm down 

[sec101row23]

2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

This is a bigger challenge that many understand IMO... we're asking a young QB, who's dealt with significant inconsistency around him, to stand on his head with a team of largely scrubs and an incompetent HC who's offense has annually been at the bottom in production.

It's pretty scary actually. Closer to full reboot in 2021 than I want to admit. 

Agreed.   Just look at who lined up at WR today in practice.   It’s a joke.  When you look at who is under contract for next year you’ll see it’s going to be another group of journeymen mercenary scrubs plus another rookie.   Zero continuity.   Other than Mims there is nothing in pipeline.  

[T0mShane]

Just now, Paradis said:

Remember when we said the same thing about the job post-Bowels? Thank you again, Macc. 

Only the nutbags said that. The reason we got Gase in the first place was because the job was so toxic

[Paradis]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

You should get a phone call every night and hearing the anxiety.  Much worse than the occasional post.  Please forward your number to my son.  LOL

so you're saying I should stop sending him PMs that say - We're doomed

[Skeptable]

9 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

He is absolutely up there with Luck and Peyton.

I agree with sticking with Sam.  It's my preference.  I also understand that Joe Douglas and whoever the next HC will be have no attachment whatsoever to Sam, and if we're picking first overall, the chances of Douglas and the new HC hitching their wagon to him are slim to none with Lawrence sitting there.  It's simply the political part of the sport.  

I agree with you that if the jets are picking 1 overall that something went terribly wrong... I just don't see that unless Sam gets seriously injured... 

I don't think he is in the luck or Peyton camp... Could he eventually get there maybe... But he has gotten so much hype and he looked good but not as good as the hype.. From all the games I watched

[Losmeister]

17 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

No but Lawrence is so overhyped it's ridiculous.... He is not Peyton... Let's try to stick with the first high qb the jets have drafted since Sanchez for more then 2 broken seasons before we start thinking about the next big bust.. 

Also that is why Sam should get more then another broken season to judge 

Lawrence is hyped for sure. But his 1st 2 years are statistically better than Peytons last 2. 

We have invested in Sam and I expect 4 yrs minimum to evaluate.

If TL is there? We have to pick him. 

[JetsRay]

23 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I get it.  I think I just would have preferred to bring in an additional WR like Demarcus Robinson, Paul Richardson, etc. and draft more than 1 WR, so that there was just a litttttle bit of a cushion there.  

When you have a young franchise QB, there is no such thing as "too many" WRs to surround him with.

PS:
 

Good to hear from ya bud ?!

I don't think Robinson or Richardson are any better than what Hogan and maybe even Moncrief can bring.  I/m actually kind of excited to see Hogan as our #4 WR fill in, and maybe Moncrief has a come back.  Injuries derailed his career, but he was once a stud on the rise.

And if this is who I think it is, how you doing pal?  Hope all is well with you!

[ryu79]

19 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

No but Lawrence is so overhyped it's ridiculous.... He is not Peyton... Let's try to stick with the first high qb the jets have drafted since Sanchez for more then 2 broken seasons before we start thinking about the next big bust

I thought Lawrence had a big regression last season. Like Sam his last year the hype is so strong you expect him to still be the top guy when we get to draft season anyway but if he looks less than himself again...or gets hurt like Tua?

But anyway, this season is gonna be weird. We may do well or poorly entirely based on who we and our opponents have available thanks to COVID and injury. Homefields will be of lesser value with empty stadiums. 

And the draft will be a total crap shoot with so many top players not participating this year at all...

[Jet Nut]

32 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Almost every single young QB around this league is in a better position than Sam, except Tua, who will sit and learn, and it's due to nothing more than gross negligence.

Tua has had a horrendous camp, was benched in yesterdays scrimmage after struggling for Rosen.  The scrimmage was played without Fitz who was out of Miami due to the death of his mother.

Shockingly Tua is said to not being healthy.

[slats]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You should get a phone call every night and hearing the anxiety.  Much worse than the occasional post.  Please forward your number to @Mogglez my son needs therapy.  LOL

Lol, I’ve got my own emotional son so, uh, thanks and all, but... 

[Mogglez]

5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

You should get a phone call every night and hearing the anxiety.  Much worse than the occasional post.  Please forward your number to @Mogglez my son needs therapy.  LOL

Hey.

 

 

 

 

 

I finished therapy in May of last year lmfao.

She was tired of hearing about "THE F*CKING JETS"

[fusionCA]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Its a tight calf muscle.  Calm down 

i am just shocked that an injury prone player get injured...

 

this never happen....

[Lith]

We came into camp with a top 4 at WR of Perriman, Mims, Crowder and V Smith.  Only proven commodity out of those 4 was Crowder.  The other 3 included an unproven rookie, a former R1 pick with a great 5 game stretch to close last year, and a journeyman with 22 career catches who had some nice moments.  We were thin at the position to start with and needed everything to break right to have a solid WR corp.  Smith is out for up to 2 months.  Mims has missed all of camp so far, and while it sounds like Perriman has looked good, he is banged up too.  Far from ideal.

I like JD, like what he has done so far, but I think his handlling of the WR position has been weak.  

[Paradis]

2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Agreed.   Just look at who lined up at WR today in practice.   It’s a joke.  When you look at who is under contract for next year you’ll see it’s going to be another group of journeymen mercenary scrubs plus another rookie.   Zero continuity.   Other than Mims there is nothing in pipeline.  

Let's be optimistic and say Sam plays as good as he can, all things considering. IOW it's not about a new QB next year....

We'll have like turnover of 3/4 of the sklll players. Mims and maybe Crowder stick. Perine the only RB.... No buns in the oven. No talent in the hopper... nothing. Mims for pete sake is SUPPOSED to be in the hopper. Not the bearer of our hopes in 2020

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, Paradis said:

so you're saying I should stop sending him PMs that say - We're doomed

Please, please stop.  

I'm almost hoping for a return of COVID again ?

[Jet Nut]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

Lol, I’ve got my own emotional son so, uh, thanks and all, but... 

Oh, perfect, youre experienced in being an emotional tampon then 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Lith said:

We came into camp with a top 4 at WR of Perriman, Mims, Crowder and V Smith.  Only proven commodity out of those 4 was Crowder.  The other 3 included an unproven rookie, a former R1 pick with a great 5 game stretch to close last year, and a journeyman with 22 career catches who had some nice moments.  We were thin at the position to start with and needed everything to break right to have a solid WR corp.  Smith is out for up to 2 months.  Mims has missed all of camp so far, and while it sounds like Perriman has looked good, he is banged up too.  Far from ideal.

I like JD, like what he has done so far, but I think his handlling of the WR position has been weak.  

clearly the focus was on OL and secondary in FA.  

from douglas' standpoint, he's in year 1 of rebuild and he's stocked up major draft picks.  

from our standpoint it's been way too long since any gm has given fans reason to believe the offense will turn the corner.

maybe if mims were practicing and looking good, that would make many here feel better.  at some point, some of these offensive picks have to pan out, right?