TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Shea Jet said: You stand by Adam, Champ...??? You're not a smart woman. I already said that I do not like Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I'm done with this Kotite goo gobbler. You're on ignore, Nancy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Didn’t holtz quit before the season was over? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Larz said: Didn’t holtz quit before the season was over? Smartest coach in Jets history 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Jet Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I'm done with this Kotite goo gobbler. You're on ignore, Nancy. You put ME on ignore and IM the Nancy??? LOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shea Jet said: You put ME on ignore and IM the Nancy??? LOLOLOLOL. Whatever Queer Boy....????? Welcome and goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The clue gave it away....BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? The extra credit clue gave it away...BB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1. Weeb Ewbank2. Bill Parcells3. Walt Michaels4. Eric Mangini5. Herm Edwards6. Pete Carroll7. Bruce Coslet8. Al Groh9. ......RexAdamSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, section314 said: The clue gave it away....BB BB never coached a game for the jets. It’s a coach on my list who won AS the jets coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Rich Kotite FINALLY gives up the #1 spot, after holding it for 24 years. Congrats Rich! 1. Adam Gase 2. Rich Kotite 3. Todd Bowles 4. Bruce Coslet 5. Charley Winner WORST Gase Lou Holtz Coslet Kotite BEST Weeb Walt Michaels Parcells Rex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Rich Kotite FINALLY gives up the #1 spot, after holding it for 24 years. Congrats Rich! 1. Adam Gase 2. Rich Kotite 3. Todd Bowles 4. Bruce Coslet 5. Charley Winner 3-13. To 1-15 Parcells takes the same team and goes 9-7 with a mediocre draft. Kotite is the worst I have seen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors?**** me! We have only had 3 decent HCs in franchise history! Although, if Chad never got hurt, we might be singing a different tune about Herm. We had some talent during his tenure.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I am no Gase fan and I want him fired yesterday, but Holtz doesn't hold a candle to Gase, and that is not saying much for Gase. The Jets won three games with Holtz and the teams he beat were a combined 2-25 against the rest of the league. He quit before the last game of the season. I'd be careful about calling other people ignorant, or extremely ignorant if your take is that Holtz is a better head coach than Gase. As inept as Gase is, he is objectively a better coach than Kotite and Holtz. He has more wins in one season that Holtz and Kotite combined in THREE years. You really don't have an argument. It’s a tough call, but for my money Gase is the worst because he only coaches the offense and makes non pretense that he’s involved in the rest of the game. Heck, sometimes he’s sitting on the bench with his face in his play sheet when the O isn’t on the field. So, it’s hard to give him credit for the team’s wins, and i chose to evaluate hime based solely on the O’s performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Rich Kotite FINALLY gives up the #1 spot, after holding it for 24 years. Congrats Rich! 1. Adam Gase 2. Rich Kotite 3. Todd Bowles 4. Bruce Coslet 5. Charley Winner It's cute how you forgot Lou Holtz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Jet Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: It's cute how you forgot Lou Holtz. It's cute how you forgot how bad the team was with an aging, gimpy Namath. While Gase is on his way to RUINING THE CAREER of Potential Franchise Quarterback Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: I have no idea how you can watch what Adam Gase did with the Dolphins and say ' I have to hire the guy who did THAT.' Who were these brilliant coaches and coordinators Management insisted they had to hire so that Rule couldn’t? Did we get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shea Jet said: It's cute how you forgot how bad the team was with an aging, gimpy Namath. While Gase is on his way to RUINING THE CAREER of Potential Franchise Quarterback Darnold. Lou Holtz quit mid season, and you think he was better than Bowles and Coslett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Rich Kotite FINALLY gives up the #1 spot, after holding it for 24 years. Congrats Rich! 1. Adam Gase 2. Rich Kotite 3. Todd Bowles 4. Bruce Coslet 5. Charley Winner How is Lou Holtz not in this conversation? He taught that slob Parcells how to quit. EDIT: Nevermind. I see just above me that it was mentioned. I admit that sometimes I don't read through to cut my losses, unlike the Jets. : / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Jet Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 As I said earlier. I had him 6th. Not enough games. But ok. Put him in and take out someone if you must. The MAIN POINT of the thread is that Kotite FINALLY relinquished the "Title" IMO..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Rich Kotite FINALLY gives up the #1 spot, after holding it for 24 years. Congrats Rich! 1. Adam Gase 2. Rich Kotite 3. Todd Bowles 4. Bruce Coslet 5. Charley Winner 1. RICH KOTITE - No one will ever surpass Kotite's incompetence. Where is Lou Holtz on this list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? Nice list although I think i’d Put michaels above parcells simply because he built the team starting from a worse place. IMO the downside of the michaels years was having Todd as Qb. Todd was really good at times but had a thin skin. I also wouldn’t put motive above gase. nyj coach of the year? I didn’t look it up but my guess would be mangini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, rangerous said: Nice list although I think i’d Put michaels above parcells simply because he built the team starting from a worse place. IMO the downside of the michaels years was having Todd as Qb. Todd was really good at times but had a thin skin. I also wouldn’t put motive above gase. nyj coach of the year? I didn’t look it up but my guess would be mangini. I agree. Walt Michaels was a great evaluator of talent and the GM'less Jets pretty much deferred to his preference for draft picks. But I ranked just based on "coaching". Had to put Weeb first since he won the SB. Parcells edged out Walt because he turned lemons into lemonade overnight when he came to the Jets. But, it is very close between the 2 regardless. Nice guess on Mangini since he authored a pretty good turnaround himself. But, you should have stuck with Walt - the 1978 UPI and Pro Football Weekly NFL Coach of the Year. Other than that, no Jet HC has ever won any formal accolades while HC of the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 To put this thread in context. Bill Belichick was the best HC of the NY Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: From my time watching the Jets, best to worst: 1. Weeb Ewbank 2. Bill Parcells 3. Walt Michaels 4. Rex Ryan 5. Herm Edwards 6. Eric Mangini 7. Pete Carroll 8. Al Groh 9. Bruce Coslet 10. Todd Bowles 11. Joe Walton/Charlie Winner (tie) 12. Lou Holtz 13. Ken Shipp 14. Mike Holovak 15. Rich Kotite 16. Adam Gase Extra Credit -- Who was the only HC of the NYJ to ever win Coach of the Year honors? Joe Walton below Mangini, Groh, Coslet and Bowles? Lol, nope. Not even close. He's a tie at 5 with Herm at worst. Eric Mangini may be the single most over-rated nobody Coach in Jets History. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Shea Jet said: Holtz was 6th. Not enough games But he didn't have enough games because he quit on his team. And even if he didn't do that, his stupid fight song alone puts him in the top 5. Lou is in my bottom 5. Coslet out. Interesting parallel so far between Gase and Charley Winner. Both guys started 1-7 in first year and rallied in second half. Winner was 6-0 to close out his first season at 7-7. Felt safe until he started the next season 2-7 and that was it. I could see history repeating itself if we still look awful at the bye week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Jet Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lith said: But he didn't have enough games because he quit on his team. And even if he didn't do that, his stupid fight song alone puts him in the top 5. Lou is in my bottom 5. Coslet out. Interesting parallel so far between Gase and Charley Winner. Both guys started 1-7 in first year and rallied in second half. Winner was 6-0 to close out his first season at 7-7. Felt safe until he started the next season 2-7 and that was it. I could see history repeating itself if we still look awful at the bye week. Can you enlighten me on the "stupid fight song" please. Dont remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Shea Jet said: Can you enlighten me on the "stupid fight song" please. Dont remember it. Go to around 4 minutes in this video. Open for Pats/Jets MNF. Alex Karras talks about the fight song and sings a few bars. I have also heard Greg Buttle, who was a rookie on that team, talk about it on the Jets pre-game. I think Holtz wnated the team to sign it in the locker room after every win, but that only would have happened 3 times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Jet Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lith said: Go to around 4 minutes in this video. Open for Pats/Jets MNF. Alex Karras talks about the fight song and sings a few bars. I have also heard Greg Buttle, who was a rookie on that team, talk about it on the Jets pre-game. I think Holtz wnated the team to sign it in the locker room after every win, but that only would have happened 3 times. Wow. Cant believe Holtz did that. I shoulda had him #1 in front of Gase...LOL. Very gay song for professionals to sing. If the Jets like Howard said are "rebuilding," why was Namath still the Quarterback??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Shea Jet said: Wow. Cant believe Holtz did that. I shoulda had him #1 in front of Gase...LOL. Very gay song for professionals to sing. If the Jets like Howard said are "rebuilding," why was Namath still the Quarterback??? They had drafted Richard Todd that year, so he was the QB of the future. But back in the 70s, rookie QBs generally sat for a year or two. So Namath was the guy in 76. By '77, Todd was the starter and Namath was a Ram. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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