KINGDIRK Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, KINGDIRK said: I hate them both. I only want Lawrence. For once, God should allow us Jets fans to have really nice things. Like an elite QB prospect and a legit HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: So many people hate Sam Darnold but are falling for Zach Wilson, who is Sam Darnold in the Mountain West. with recorded throwing arm injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The thing is which guy can come in right away and lead an nfl team. I don’t get the sense that any QBs prospect except Lawrence has that ability. I don’t see the jets bringing in a vet to play all or part of next season. Who’s out there? And they’re certainly not going to pay the going starters rate for what will probably be a one year rental. They haven’t iced the first pick and Lawrence hasn’t declared yet so anything can still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Lawrence Fields Wilson Lance Mac Joes I like Mac Jones a lot. He is not a guy that will totally turn around a terrible team but he has looked very good in a lot of important areas for Bama, his pocket presence is very good. Mac? Nope, don’t care how good he is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The funny thing is that the reaction on this board would’ve been nuclear if the Jets had taken Josh Allen over Darnold in that number #3 spot. IF the Jets end up picking second instead of first, and take Wilson over Fields, what would the reaction be? Not sure Allen would do any better here than Sam has. If so, it’s because he can run away faster. But his completion rate would still be poor. Face it. Jets stink. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The funny thing is that the reaction on this board would’ve been nuclear if the Jets had taken Josh Allen over Darnold in that number #3 spot. IF the Jets end up picking second instead of first, and take Wilson over Fields, what would the reaction be? Josh Allen would be looking at bad as Sam. Probably already badly injured due to the OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, addage said: Not sure Allen would do any better here than Sam has. If so, it’s because he can run away faster. But his completion rate would still be poor. Face it. Jets stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, FidelioJet said: Josh Allen would be looking at bad as Sam. Probably already badly injured due to the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, KINGDIRK said: For once, God should allow us Jets fans to have really nice things. Like an elite QB prospect and a legit HC. I think things are lining up well if we lose out. Big question I have is do we have a GM that knows how to build a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, AL047 said: BYU QB Zach Wilson is charging up 2021 NFL Draft boards (nypost.com) One NFL executive even said they believe that Wilson will ultimately overtake Fields in the coming months ahead of April’s 2021 NFL Draft. Ohio State’s Justin Fields was presumed to be the second-overall pick. But the Buckeyes QB has fallen under a little more scrutiny as the season has gone on. And BYU’s Zach Wilson has emerged as an elite playmaker, who went from a bubble first-round prospect to a potential top-10 pick. One NFL executive even said they believe that Wilson will ultimately overtake Fields in the coming months ahead of April’s 2021 NFL Draft. I'm not sold on Justin Fields, this is one QB that is beginning to show cracks on his armor!!! Yeah. Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, jgb said: 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah. Sure. Jimmy Clausen face. Bust-o-rama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticusGase Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don’t get it. Fields has played as well as anyone can play the position at Ohio State. They have been virtually unbeatable with him under center. He has one bad half vs a good defense in Indiana in a game where his team was leading 35-7 in the 3rd quarter and all of a sudden people start doubting him? Hate to say it, but is this more prejudice against the black QB? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, AtticusGase said: I don’t get it. Fields has played as well as anyone can play the position at Ohio State. They have been virtually unbeatable with him under center. He has one bad half vs a good defense in Indiana in a game where his team was leading 35-7 in the 3rd quarter and all of a sudden people start doubting him? Hate to say it, but is this more prejudice against the black QB? Whoa there, cowboy. Plenty of people are down on Lawrence because of the one and only game he lost in like 6 years — last years Nat championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, jgb said: Jimmy Clausen face. Bust-o-rama More like Amanda Bearse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah. Sure. My 8 year old daughter has broader shoulders 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The funny thing is that the reaction on this board would’ve been nuclear if the Jets had taken Josh Allen over Darnold in that number #3 spot. IF the Jets end up picking second instead of first, and take Wilson over Fields, what would the reaction be? Can you imagine if the Jets took Allen instead of Darnold? They would have ruined him to the point of no return. Allen would have been the 2nd coming of Hackenburg and working at Wendy's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: As I've said a few times this notre dame game and then the nat champ playoffs is critical to see if lawrence is as you and every one else says he is. Last year playing teams with similar talent (ohio state and then lsu) he did nothing to appear to be gods gift to QBing. Dont disagree at all. This game vs ND is going to be a great test, as this is an actually good team, not just a team relying on the ND name. Very interested to see how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: More like Amanda Bearse... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungry jackson Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Losmeister said: nobody hates sam. hes a nice kid. Nice guys finish last or 0-16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think things are lining up well if we lose out. Big question I have is do we have a GM that knows how to build a team. He’s hit on Becton and Mims. Say what you want about PFF but Mims is ranked 8th and Becton 10th amount all NFL rookies. And we’ve all seen with our eyes. Becton is awesome and Mims looks really good as well. He needs to hit a HR on the coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah. Sure. Lets all watch tom brady at the combine and running his 40 yard dash again. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Lets all watch tom brady at the combine and running his 40 yard dash again. Remember when Geno Smith was the best QB in the draft, would be #1 overall, and had 45 TDs and 5 picks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Remember when Geno Smith was the best QB in the draft, would be #1 overall, and had 45 TDs and 5 picks? I remember that. I also remember that was one of the worst drafts for quarterbacks in Gods knows how long. In TL you have what is considered to be the best qb prospect in many years plus another 2 or 3 who would be considered top prospects (Fields, Wilson and Lance) in just about any draft. Context does matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Lets all watch tom brady at the combine and running his 40 yard dash again. 1999 Tom Brady would dump Wilson’s books and stuff him into a locker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, JetBlue said: I remember that. I also remember that was one of the worst drafts for quarterbacks in Gods knows how long. In TL you have what is considered to be the best qb prospect in many years plus another 2 or 3 who would be considered top prospects (Fields, Wilson and Lance) in just about any draft. Context does matter. So does a sense of humor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Untouchable said: 1999 Tom Brady would dump Wilson’s books and stuff him into a locker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 22 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: What's preposterous about it? Athletic guy who everyone raves about his "off script" play making ability. Questionable decision making at times. His on script playmaking isn’t puzzling and his arm is actually strong. Never turns the ball over, good at stepping up in the pocket rather than bailing from it. More games played, started his true freshman season. I get what you’re saying but scrambling QBs are not all the same especially when you’re talking about elite deep ball vs can’t reach the end zone from the 50 yard line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Schwarzenegger-esque compared to Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: So does a sense of humor.... You were being funny? Okay if you say so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 When I watch fields, I see russle Wilson in him I think he really puts the ball in the best position for his playmaker when I watch Lawrence I dont see that 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Can you imagine if the Jets took Allen instead of Darnold? They would have ruined him to the point of no return. Allen would have been the 2nd coming of Hackenburg and working at Wendy's. Many people actually used that as a comp for Allen. They said he was bigger, more physical version of Hackenberg with a much stronger arm. Allen's progression has been textbook and he's easily looking like a Top 10 QB for the next decade. So frustrating. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Many people actually used that as a comp for Allen. They said he was bigger, more physical version of Hackenberg with a much stronger arm. Allen's progression has been textbook and he's easily looking like a Top 10 QB for the next decade. So frustrating. lol He made some throws last week that were just phenomenal. Bert jones like. He is 10x the QB Darnold is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, kdels62 said: His on script playmaking isn’t puzzling and his arm is actually strong. Never turns the ball over, good at stepping up in the pocket rather than bailing from it. Many more games played. I get what you’re saying but scrambling QBs are not all the same especially when you’re talking about elite deep ball vs can’t reach the end zone from the 50 yard line. He's played 2 more games in his career to date then Darnold did at USC. With 40 less passing attempts. In the Mountain West. You are also comparing Darnold the NFL version to Wilson. Darnold was universally praised for his pocket presence at USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 He couldn't even beat Coastal Carolina, and he's moving up the board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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