What happens if Fields outplays Lawrence tonite?

[CTJetsFan]

7 hours ago, sec101row23 said:

With safety Nolan Turner out for the first half because of a targeting penalty against Notre Dame , look for Fields to go after his replacement Lannden Zanders a lot.  Zanders has his eyes in the backfield WAY to much and is prone to getting beat, he’s just really un-disciplined.  Also, the interior of the Clemson O-line isn’t playing well, expect to see Trevor outside of the pocket a lot tonight.  

I'll be coming back to you for Mega Millions #s if no one hits tonight lol

[Barry McCockinner]

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

[Jet Life]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

Luckily we have a ton of cap space, an extra 1 and 3 this year and an extra 1 next year to build the team. Very different from last time when we traded away 3 2nds for the QB and had no assets to build. We can take a QB and build the team 

[Larz]

Hey at least we don’t have to trade up this time 

[Icer]

11 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

You can do both, especially when you aren't trading additional picks to get said QB

[slimjasi]

10 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

I don’t understand this logic.

QBs are part of the team. In fact, the most Important part. Hence, finding the QB is part of building the team 

[Barry McCockinner]

13 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

I don’t understand this logic.

QBs are part of the team. In fact, the most Important part. Hence, finding the QB is part of building the team 

The engine is the most important part of a car but it's not going to function well if the transmission is shot and the wheels are falling off. This team is in rough shape and needs a huge infusion of talent.

[slimjasi]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

The engine is the most important part of a car but it's not going to function well if the transmission is shot and the wheels are falling off. This team is in rough shape and needs a huge infusion of talent.

Yes and one of the positions where we could use some more young talent is at quarterback 

 

[Icer]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

The engine is the most important part of a car but it's not going to function well if the transmission is shot and the wheels are falling off. This team is in rough shape and needs a huge infusion of talent.

We have a ton of cap space, an additional first and a ton of picks to help with that. Why push the decision out a year when you probably won't be picking #2 again?

[dcJet]

It's settled.  Fields it is.  No Right tackle.

[kevinc855]

20 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

I don’t understand this logic.

QBs are part of the team. In fact, the most Important part. Hence, finding the QB is part of building the team 

Trevor coming to the Jets in the current state would make a 2-14 team maybe 3-13...…...that's the point. You need to fill all these roster holes to make it work

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, dcJet said:

It's settled.  Fields it is.  No Right tackle.

Fields was better than Lawrence tonight. By a lot.

It’s a given what we do.

The “he’s only 23” folks are about to be really disappointed.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

38 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Trevor coming to the Jets in the current state would make a 2-14 team maybe 3-13...…...that's the point. You need to fill all these roster holes to make it work

 

You don't pass up a franchise qb when you don't have 1.

Imagine passing on fields because you want to "build up the team first". That would be like picking jamal adams over deshaun watson all over again. 

The qb you have longed for is staring at you right in the face. And you want to pass him up for who? 

[slimjasi]

Just now, Icer said:

We have a ton of cap space, an additional first and a ton of picks to help with that. Why push the decision out a year when you probably won't be picking #2 again?

This is the most frustrating part of this argument to me.

This is, what, the third time this franchise has picked number 2 overall? This team obviously needs a QB. This has to be looked at as a legit chance to get one.

Also, why doesn’t this ridiculous “build the team first then get the QB” argument not apply to any other team? I guess Jacksonville shouldn’t take Lawrence since their team sucks donkey balls. Cuz you know, they need to build their team first. 

To be safe, I guess no team with fewer than 8 wins this year should think about drafting a QB. Maybe Trevor falls to the Raiders? 

I just don’t see where the argument goes 

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

5 minutes ago, dcJet said:

It's settled.  Fields it is.  No Right tackle.

Yes. 
(unless he sucks against Bama, then I have the right to take that back)

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, Icer said:

We have a ton of cap space, an additional first and a ton of picks to help with that. Why push the decision out a year when you probably won't be picking #2 again?

This team isn't being revamped in one off-season. Picking a QB at number 2 does what, exactly? Look at the top QBs in the league. Most of them were drafted onto teams that were already good with later picks.

QBs need to be developed and it's extremely difficult to do that with a garbage supporting cast. 

[Jetsfan4life90]

3 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

 

You don't pass up a franchise qb when you don't have 1.

Imagine passing on fields because you want to "build up the team first". That would be like picking jamal adams over deshaun watson all over again. 

The qb you have longed for is staring at you right in the face. And you want to pass him up for who? 

Exactly. Regardless of whose fault it is, Darnold is simply not a franchise QB at this point in time. If JD believes Fields or Wilson is that guy, then they'll be the pick at #2. After tonight, Fields looks to be that guy potentially. 

[Losmeister]

3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Also, why doesn’t this ridiculous “build the team first then get the QB” argument not apply to any other team?

cos JN is full of retarded Jets fans who cant interpret wtf is going on?

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

 

You don't pass up a franchise qb when you don't have 1.

Imagine passing on fields because you want to "build up the team first". That would be like picking jamal adams over deshaun watson all over again. 

The qb you have longed for is staring at you right in the face. And you want to pass him up for who? 

Right because building the team obviously means taking a strong safety at #2.

Trade down, accumulate more high picks and build the foundation so QBs have a fighting chance to succeed here.

[Jetsfan4life90]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Right because building the team obviously means taking a strong safety at #2.

Trade down, accumulate more high picks and build the foundation so QBs have a fighting chance to succeed here.

After tonight, you don't likely pass on Fields. And if he dominates against Alabama like he did tonight? Then you don't pass on him at all. Not when you also don't have a franchise QB. 

Jets have enough cap space and draft picks over the next couple of years to build around a QB. Take Fields (or if TLaw somehow falls), then build the rest of the roster. 

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

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Also, why doesn’t this ridiculous “build the team first then get the QB” argument not apply to any other team? 

Who says it doesn't? Again, look at the top 5 QBs in the league. Most of them were drafted  onto solid teams.

[dcJet]

8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

This team isn't being revamped in one off-season. Picking a QB at number 2 does what, exactly? Look at the top QBs in the league. Most of them were drafted onto teams that were already good with later picks.

QBs need to be developed and it's extremely difficult to do that with a garbage supporting cast. 

That why you sit Fields and start Sam next year.  Gadget Fields up like Hurts early and then start Fields in week 10 for real.  In 2022, he'll be ready to start right when Sam's contract is done and with 2 off-seasons of improved supporting cast.  

[Icer]

4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

This team isn't being revamped in one off-season. Picking a QB at number 2 does what, exactly? Look at the top QBs in the league. Most of them were drafted onto teams that were already good with later picks.

QBs need to be developed and it's extremely difficult to do that with a garbage supporting cast. 

This will be the second year of the JD revamp. There will never be a perfect time to draft a QB when you are a losing franchise in a perpetual losing cycle. You will either have a terrible team and a high choice or a mediocre team that's out of reach of one of those top selections.

There's no guarantee that the player you pick to 'build the team' doesn't bust or disappoint either. 

[SackExchangeNYJ]

13 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

Son goes to Clemson so I'm rooting for TL...but what happens if Lawrence is just so so and Fields plays lights out and OSU wins?..is he the Jets pick?...Johnson will be able to say we got the guy who beat the number 1 pick...sounds just like the Johnson's MO. 

Will never hap...

Oh, wait.

[cant wait]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan4life90 said:

Exactly. Regardless of whose fault it is, Darnold is simply not a franchise QB at this point in time. If JD believes Fields or Wilson is that guy, then they'll be the pick at #2. After tonight, Fields looks to be that guy potentially. 

It’s really JD and whoever the new coach believes in, they are likely going to be a package deal

[Losmeister]

Fields clearly outplays CHRIST HIMSELF, and JN still talkinh about starting Sam next year..

this friggin place...       

smfh

[Charlie Brown]

11 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Jets fans will rally around Fields and will want him to be the pick.

Wow!!

You are freaking Nostradamus!!

Great Post!

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, Icer said:

This will be the second year of the JD revamp. There will never be a perfect time to draft a QB when you are a losing franchise in a perpetual losing cycle. You will either have a terrible team and a high choice or a mediocre team that's out of reach of one of those top selections.

There's no guarantee that the player you pick to 'build the team' doesn't bust or disappoint either. 

What's your point? Of course draft picks can bust. That's why having more high picks is key.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Right because building the team obviously means taking a strong safety at #2.

Trade down, accumulate more high picks and build the foundation so QBs have a fighting chance to succeed here.

I love the idea getting more picks but it’s not like we have #2 and then no more picks. 
You still have another first. Two firsts the following year. Picking high in each round.

Hit on your picks and you’ll be on your way. Quality will beat quantity. 

[playtowinthegame]

56 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

Those trades downs on that draft simulator aren't happening. It's fantasy. Jets will stay at two, and they will draft a quarterback then you will bang your hand. 

[dcJet]

5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Who says it doesn't? Again, look at the top 5 QBs in the league. Most of them were drafted  onto solid teams.

Mostly true, but also consider Watson, Herbert, Dak, Murray all were drafted by sh*tty teams.  I'd settle for that

[Icer]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

What's your point? Of course draft picks can bust. That's why having more high picks is key.

The point is there's no reason why you need to be afraid of drafting a QB because the team isn't ready. There is never a perfect time to make that choice, you make the choice when the opportunity presents itself.

[Wonderboy]

56 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

We are taking a QB @ 2. Get over it. Sit him for a year.  Keep improving the OL and roster. We have plenty of picks and FA cash over the next two years. 
 

[Bruce Harper]

11 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

We’re still taking Wilson

Now I dunno.  Guy really showed some balls.  and can throw a deep ball -- even with broken ribs.

[Embrace the Suck]

58 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I've been banging the table saying a QB doesn't fix this team. Y'all see lawrence getting wrecked out there tonight? That's what it would look like week in and week out with the Jets.

Build the team, then find a QB.

Take Fields and the OG Davis in the first. Take rb hb te in any order with the next three picks. Your offense is almost entirely rebuilt at that point with the FA additions on offense which will be coming.