riggy001 360 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I have been giving this some more extended thought recently. At first, i dismissed it any many of you have, he is going to be 33 next month, not a fit for the Jets. That said, with so many Qbs still effective in their late 30s, and even 40s, rivers, brees, brady, ben, rodgers, etc., could easily argue that Matt is still in prime, with 4-5 very good yrs left. The other variables are even more favorable, signed for 2 more yrs at 45 million( border Line cheap) for a qb with his resume. The draft capital will be Much less to give up compared to Watson, likely our 23 and a third or 4th gets it done. We can then trade out of 2, knowing we have a gd qb secured, and get the haul we all expect...and we still have our high second and 2 1st rounders next yr, as well as whatever we get for Sam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
More Cowbell 5,962 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, riggy001 said: I have been giving this some more extended thought recently. At first, i dismissed it any many of you have, he is going to be 33 next month, not a fit for the Jets. That said, with so many Qbs still effective in their late 30s, and even 40s, rivers, brees, brady, ben, rodgers, etc., could easily argue that Matt is still in prime, with 4-5 very good yrs left. The other variables are even more favorable, signed for 2 more yrs at 45 million( border Line cheap) for a qb with his resume. The draft capital will be Much less to give up compared to Watson, likely our 23 and a third or 4th gets it done. We can then trade out of 2, knowing we have a gd qb secured, and get the haul we all expect...and we still have our high second and 2 1st rounders next yr, as well as whatever we get for Sam. First off it isn't lime Stafford never played with talent. He has had great WR in Megatron and Galloday. He just has not gotten that team over the hump. Secondly, Stafford won't want to play on the Jets. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post heymangold 2,481 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 No 2 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 3,410 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 https://www.instagram.com/p/CKeHSLsBZC6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 129,097 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Stafford fits my "just about anyone but Darnold" criteria, but he's lower on my wishlist than the following: Watson Fields Wilson Jameis Winston Trey Lance Stafford, James Morgan and Ryan Fitzpatrick would be next on the list. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post HighPitch 2,994 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Hell no has everyone gone mad 2 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Dunnie 3,864 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 6 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebag 8,508 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 He'd be a better fit in either DC or Indy. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebag 8,508 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app It would behoove you to study the Jets stats first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Icer 4,583 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Not at the rumored compensation level that's being floated around (1st/2nd). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 129,097 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. So you're for trading for Stafford but against trading for Watson? At least there's a reasonable argument to be made against trading for Stafford: Despite him being one of the top 10 or so guys in the league, his age dictates we won't get many years of contention out of him for what we'd be giving up in a trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 1,136 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app I invite you to watch his playoff performances. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ZachEY 266,611 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Flowchart of QB decision making: Is your current Quarterback the worst in the NFL [X] Yes [ ] No If yes, Is the player available not or not likely the worst quarterback in the NFL. [X] Yes [ ] No If yes, consider upgrading to the available quarterback. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 28,479 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Hell No 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,100 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 He'd be a quantum leap over Darnold - but I am always wary of bringing a guy in who played his home games in a dome to the Meadowlands. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Willie White Shoes 1,601 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It's not the right fit for a rebuilding team. The Jets are 2-3 years away from seriously contending and then he will be 35-36. Plus he is starting to break down. He missed half the season last year with a back injury and injured his thumb (but played through it) this season. He's a good fit for a win now team like Indy. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in NE as Belichick makes a push for a title the next year or two before he retires. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SayNoToDMC 15,111 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He'd be a quantum leap over Darnold - but I am always wary of bringing a guy in who played his home games in a dome to the Meadowlands. His arm strength has never been a question, dude could toss a spiral through a blizzard. That said I got zero interest given the options currently available to us 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckkieB 4,067 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO! By the time the Jets are ready to be competitive, Stafford will be 35+. Not to mention, ZERO playoff wins in 12 years as a starting QB in the NFL. Great stats. Not a winner. Part of that is team related. Part of it isn't. Not interested in paying 30 million a year to find out which factor contributed more. Hard Pass. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,100 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 16 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO! By the time the Jets are ready to be competitive, Stafford will be 35+. Not to mention, ZERO playoff wins in 12 years as a starting QB in the NFL. Great stats. Not a winner. Part of that is team related. Part of it isn't. Not interested in paying 30 million a year to find out which factor contributed more. Hard Pass. 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 8,422 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I can see stafford in Denver. Fangio knows him well from coaching against him for years. And denver has a ton of talent at receiver with Sutton, Jeudy, patrick and fant. He would put up crazy numbers in Denver. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I like franchise QBs who have more than zero playoff wins after 12 years in the NFL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 11,997 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, HighPitch said: Hell no has everyone gone mad Jets fans have been battered so much that having a bad-to-mediocre team is being advocated for. That's what Stafford's teams have been...It really is insane to consider bringing him in to a full rebuild environment. I'm sure he's not on JD's list. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 11,997 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Skeet Ulrich said: 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. Than what was last year? If that wasn't the first year of a rebuild than JD should have been fired as soon as he fielded the leagues worst roster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, FidelioJet said: Than what was last year? If that wasn't the first year of a rebuild than JD should have been fired as soon as he fielded the leagues worst roster. Last season was the Gase purge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 11,997 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Last season was the Gase purge Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. The “3 year rebuild” narrative has been a convenient cop out for the Johnsons for the last 10 years of suckage 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,100 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. You need to read better. 3 year rebuilds aren't a thing - which is what I stated. There's no reason the Jets can't win 7-9 games next year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 11,997 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Philc1 said: The “3 year rebuild” narrative has been a convenient cop out for the Johnsons for the last 10 years of suckage True or not...That is, in fact, the situation we're in right now for sure. There's few scenarios where this is a playoff team within the next two years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: You need to read better. 3 year rebuilds aren't a thing - which is what I stated. There's no reason the Jets can't win 7-9 games next year. We won 9 games the season after we went 1-15 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, FidelioJet said: True or not...That is, in fact, the situation we're in right now for sure. There's few scenarios where this is a playoff team within the next two years. That’s exactly what the Johnsons want you and the NY media to believe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,100 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: We won 9 games the season after we went 1-15 John Dorsey believed in at least a 3 year rebuild with the Browns. He got fired at the end of year 2. The idea it takes half a decade to put a winning product on the field is absurd. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 11,997 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Philc1 said: That’s exactly what the Johnsons want you and the NY media to believe Do you believe otherwise? I can wish all I want - I just don't see how you turn this team around this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,100 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, FidelioJet said: Do you believe otherwise? I can wish all I want - I just don't see how you turn this team around this year. Fix the QB position. It's the easiest and quickest way to put a competitive product on the field. Not having the worst QB in the NFL as Jet QB 3 years running will do wonders for the team's record. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckkieB 4,067 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. That's good to know because the Jets are entering the 7th year of their latest rebuild. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,454 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: John Dorsey believed in at least a 3 year rebuild with the Browns. He got fired at the end of year 2. The idea it takes half a decade to put a winning product on the field is absurd. Ofcourse. Just look at the freakin New England Patriots. 5-11 in 2000, Mo Lewis causes Tom Brady to get off the bench they win the super bowl the following season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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