riggy001 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I have been giving this some more extended thought recently. At first, i dismissed it any many of you have, he is going to be 33 next month, not a fit for the Jets. That said, with so many Qbs still effective in their late 30s, and even 40s, rivers, brees, brady, ben, rodgers, etc., could easily argue that Matt is still in prime, with 4-5 very good yrs left. The other variables are even more favorable, signed for 2 more yrs at 45 million( border Line cheap) for a qb with his resume. The draft capital will be Much less to give up compared to Watson, likely our 23 and a third or 4th gets it done. We can then trade out of 2, knowing we have a gd qb secured, and get the haul we all expect...and we still have our high second and 2 1st rounders next yr, as well as whatever we get for Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, riggy001 said: I have been giving this some more extended thought recently. At first, i dismissed it any many of you have, he is going to be 33 next month, not a fit for the Jets. That said, with so many Qbs still effective in their late 30s, and even 40s, rivers, brees, brady, ben, rodgers, etc., could easily argue that Matt is still in prime, with 4-5 very good yrs left. The other variables are even more favorable, signed for 2 more yrs at 45 million( border Line cheap) for a qb with his resume. The draft capital will be Much less to give up compared to Watson, likely our 23 and a third or 4th gets it done. We can then trade out of 2, knowing we have a gd qb secured, and get the haul we all expect...and we still have our high second and 2 1st rounders next yr, as well as whatever we get for Sam. First off it isn't lime Stafford never played with talent. He has had great WR in Megatron and Galloday. He just has not gotten that team over the hump. Secondly, Stafford won't want to play on the Jets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetsfan80 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Stafford fits my "just about anyone but Darnold" criteria, but he's lower on my wishlist than the following: Watson Fields Wilson Jameis Winston Trey Lance Stafford, James Morgan and Ryan Fitzpatrick would be next on the list. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HighPitch Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 Hell no has everyone gone mad 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 He'd be a better fit in either DC or Indy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app It would behoove you to study the Jets stats first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Not at the rumored compensation level that's being floated around (1st/2nd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. So you're for trading for Stafford but against trading for Watson? At least there's a reasonable argument to be made against trading for Stafford: Despite him being one of the top 10 or so guys in the league, his age dictates we won't get many years of contention out of him for what we'd be giving up in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You guys are nuts ... I invite you to study his stats and come back to this discussion ... guy is a beast. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app I invite you to watch his playoff performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 Flowchart of QB decision making: Is your current Quarterback the worst in the NFL [X] Yes [ ] No If yes, Is the player available not or not likely the worst quarterback in the NFL. [X] Yes [ ] No If yes, consider upgrading to the available quarterback. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Hell No 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 He'd be a quantum leap over Darnold - but I am always wary of bringing a guy in who played his home games in a dome to the Meadowlands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 It's not the right fit for a rebuilding team. The Jets are 2-3 years away from seriously contending and then he will be 35-36. Plus he is starting to break down. He missed half the season last year with a back injury and injured his thumb (but played through it) this season. He's a good fit for a win now team like Indy. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in NE as Belichick makes a push for a title the next year or two before he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: He'd be a quantum leap over Darnold - but I am always wary of bringing a guy in who played his home games in a dome to the Meadowlands. His arm strength has never been a question, dude could toss a spiral through a blizzard. That said I got zero interest given the options currently available to us 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO! By the time the Jets are ready to be competitive, Stafford will be 35+. Not to mention, ZERO playoff wins in 12 years as a starting QB in the NFL. Great stats. Not a winner. Part of that is team related. Part of it isn't. Not interested in paying 30 million a year to find out which factor contributed more. Hard Pass. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO! By the time the Jets are ready to be competitive, Stafford will be 35+. Not to mention, ZERO playoff wins in 12 years as a starting QB in the NFL. Great stats. Not a winner. Part of that is team related. Part of it isn't. Not interested in paying 30 million a year to find out which factor contributed more. Hard Pass. 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I can see stafford in Denver. Fangio knows him well from coaching against him for years. And denver has a ton of talent at receiver with Sutton, Jeudy, patrick and fant. He would put up crazy numbers in Denver. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I like franchise QBs who have more than zero playoff wins after 12 years in the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, HighPitch said: Hell no has everyone gone mad Jets fans have been battered so much that having a bad-to-mediocre team is being advocated for. That's what Stafford's teams have been...It really is insane to consider bringing him in to a full rebuild environment. I'm sure he's not on JD's list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Skeet Ulrich said: 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. Than what was last year? If that wasn't the first year of a rebuild than JD should have been fired as soon as he fielded the leagues worst roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: Than what was last year? If that wasn't the first year of a rebuild than JD should have been fired as soon as he fielded the leagues worst roster. Last season was the Gase purge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Last season was the Gase purge Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. The “3 year rebuild” narrative has been a convenient cop out for the Johnsons for the last 10 years of suckage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Oh, I completely agree. Just commenting on a post that each year is unto itlself and there are no rebuilds. What JD did absolutely is a 3 year rebuild at a minimum. last year wasn't even a rebuild - it was, as you stated, a purge. Rebuild starts this year. You need to read better. 3 year rebuilds aren't a thing - which is what I stated. There's no reason the Jets can't win 7-9 games next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Philc1 said: The “3 year rebuild” narrative has been a convenient cop out for the Johnsons for the last 10 years of suckage True or not...That is, in fact, the situation we're in right now for sure. There's few scenarios where this is a playoff team within the next two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: You need to read better. 3 year rebuilds aren't a thing - which is what I stated. There's no reason the Jets can't win 7-9 games next year. We won 9 games the season after we went 1-15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: True or not...That is, in fact, the situation we're in right now for sure. There's few scenarios where this is a playoff team within the next two years. That’s exactly what the Johnsons want you and the NY media to believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: We won 9 games the season after we went 1-15 John Dorsey believed in at least a 3 year rebuild with the Browns. He got fired at the end of year 2. The idea it takes half a decade to put a winning product on the field is absurd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Philc1 said: That’s exactly what the Johnsons want you and the NY media to believe Do you believe otherwise? I can wish all I want - I just don't see how you turn this team around this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: Do you believe otherwise? I can wish all I want - I just don't see how you turn this team around this year. Fix the QB position. It's the easiest and quickest way to put a competitive product on the field. Not having the worst QB in the NFL as Jet QB 3 years running will do wonders for the team's record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: 3 year rebuilds really aren't a thing anymore. Each NFL season is it's own entity. That's good to know because the Jets are entering the 7th year of their latest rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: John Dorsey believed in at least a 3 year rebuild with the Browns. He got fired at the end of year 2. The idea it takes half a decade to put a winning product on the field is absurd. Ofcourse. Just look at the freakin New England Patriots. 5-11 in 2000, Mo Lewis causes Tom Brady to get off the bench they win the super bowl the following season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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