Popular Post Jetsbb 1,689 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Update with full video explanation https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/03/zach-wilson-over-trevor-lawrence-chris-simms-says-yes/ 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Rhg1084 5,137 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Chris has a good history of ranking prospects 10 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 5,536 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Running around, making plays, throwing the football etc, I do think Zach Wilson has more talent then Trevor Lawrence. But size, smarts, leadership etc also play a big role in all of this. But if you are just watching tape of both these guys slinging it around, Zach Wilson will probably look like the better qb. But lets be honest, hes not. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Rhg1084 5,137 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
docdhc 4,219 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Wow that’s pretty good 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SAR I 14,586 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 This is fascinating. SAR I 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,708 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Derp lol. This may be one of the best thread mic drops I've seen on here in awhile. Well done sir. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post The Count of Monte Cristo 176 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Running around, making plays, throwing the football etc, I do think Zach Wilson has more talent then Trevor Lawrence. But size, smarts, leadership etc also play a big role in all of this. But if you are just watching tape of both these guys slinging it around, Zach Wilson will probably look like the better qb. But lets be honest, hes not. From the bottom of my heart, he is. Where did you get the idea that he's not smart or a leader? 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post The Count of Monte Cristo 176 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Just now, JTJet said: Derp lol. This may be one of the best thread mic drops I've seen on here in awhile. Well done sir. He was also in on Pat Mahomes before almost everyone else. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crusher 221,885 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Most interesting thing about this to me is the three best here went to the three franchises that built around them. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maury77 3,064 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Totally Chris, Fields is undraftable at this point, maybe the Jets can sign him as an UDFA. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Adoni Beast 4,547 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Well he nailed that one pretty much. Jackson was league MVP , Josh Allen right up there, Bakers good, Sam meh to sucks, and Rosen barely surviving as a 3rd stringer. So maybe this dude know what he’s talking about? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post rayzor 706 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 He said he called the success of Lamar and Josh Allen during their drafts and got tons of crap from everyone. But his analysis of Wilson is extremely positive. I do agree with everything he says. Especially the part about wishing he were a bit bigger. Queue the Wilson detractors! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post K_O_Brien 1,382 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Popular Post Columbia Jet Fan 2,125 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: To expand on that: 2018 Lamar Jackson Josh Allen Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Josh Rosen 2019 Kyler Murray Drew Lock Dwayne Haskins Ryan Finley Jarrett Stidham Daniel Jones Clayton Thorson Will Grier 2020 Joe Burrow Justin Herbert Jordan Love Tua Tagovailoa Also he was IN on Mahomes in 2017: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705937-simms-spotlight-patrick-mahomes-is-2017-nfl-drafts-most-special-qb-talent During the 2018 draft I thought he was a joke because all of the "smart" analysts like PFF mocked guys like Allen - and to an extent Lamar. Say what you want about him but that is an impressive track record. 8 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Beerfish 35,363 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 I don;t know if Wilson is better than Lawrence but the gap between the top guys is WAY narrower than what has been put out there for a year or more. Lawrence was never 'generational' Also as I have said often, this time next year we will be talking about 2 or 3 guys from college right now not viewed as top prospects who are very worthy. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post jbt 1,206 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Simms for GM 1 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Samtorobby47 5,154 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Well then what are we waiting for!? Trade SAM and take Wilson asappp 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,708 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 The Wilson haters are incoming. They already believe the kid is 5'9", dumb as a box of rocks, and kicks puppies while stealing everyone's girlfriends. I bet their excuse for this is that any video of Simms ranking past QBs and nailing it is just a deep fake. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 2,080 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Sign this beast... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 142,129 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Kellen Mond>>>Zach Wilson 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rayzor 706 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said: Well then what are we waiting for!? Trade SAM and take Wilson asappp Douglas would have to agree with Simms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshmello 942 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 This increases the value of the #2 pick as well. I wonder how tall Wilson is though. He's listed at 6'3". I doubt he's that tall. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 5,536 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: From the bottom of my heart, he is. Where did you get the idea that he's not smart or a leader? I dont have that idea. I do believe that trevor lawrence is ahead of wilson in the smarts, leadership, size categories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post PS17 83,067 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 Simms has been the best QB evaluator in recent years. Seems to do his own analysis and not get caught up in the echo chamber consensus rankings. Refreshing. 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable 15,078 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, JTJet said: The Wilson haters are incoming. They already believe the kid is 5'9", dumb as a box of rocks, and kicks puppies while stealing everyone's girlfriends. I bet their excuse for this is that any video of Simms ranking past QBs and nailing it is just a deep fake. I don’t know, it kind of is. I specifically remember him doing a livestream during that ‘18 draft and him screaming for the Jets to draft Rosen at #3 but then saying that Darnold was a solid choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Count of Monte Cristo 176 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Kellen Mond>>>Zach Wilson You wouldn't know Kellen Mond from Kelly Clarkson 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Count of Monte Cristo 176 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: I dont have that idea. I do believe that trevor lawrence is ahead of wilson in the smarts, leadership, Ok, where did you get THAT idea? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rayzor 706 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 12 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said: To expand on that: 2018 Lamar Jackson Josh Allen Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Josh Rosen 2019 Kyler Murray Drew Lock Dwayne Haskins Ryan Finley Jarrett Stidham Daniel Jones Clayton Thorson Will Grier 2020 Joe Burrow Justin Herbert Jordan Love Tua Tagovailoa Also he was IN on Mahomes in 2017: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2705937-simms-spotlight-patrick-mahomes-is-2017-nfl-drafts-most-special-qb-talent During the 2018 draft I thought he was a joke because all of the "smart" analysts like PFF mocked guys like Allen - and to an extent Lamar. Say what you want about him but that is an impressive track record. It is pretty good how accurate his rankings have been. Especially 2018! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 142,129 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: You wouldn't know Kellen Mond from Kelly Clarkson MondManiacs Mount Up 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRL 12,383 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 People are talking about Chris Simms twitter, mission accomplished 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post The Count of Monte Cristo 176 Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, KRL said: People are talking about Chris Simms twitter, mission accomplished Yes, he should have kept those rankings just for himself, family and close friends. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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