AFJF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Conversation came up in the forums the other day and I think it's an interesting question. Feel free to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Havent seen enough of Guidry or Huff as of yet to give them the nod. Id go with Fatukasi as he is the best player picked the latest that is no question legit. Its a nice situation that this isnt an easy question to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Havent seen enough of Guidry or Huff as of yet to give them the nod. Id go with Fatukasi as he is the best player picked the latest that is no question legit. Its a nice situation that this isnt an easy question to answer Agree on Guidry but even with limited reps last season, I thought Huff looked like he was going to be a very good player and predicted 8 sacks out of him this year. You make a fair point though. My assumptions won't necessarily match up with those of others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Foley He’s in the running for best NT in the league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Havent seen enough of Guidry or Huff as of yet to give them the nod. Id go with Fatukasi as he is the best player picked the latest that is no question legit. Its a nice situation that this isnt an easy question to answer I went with Fatukasi for the same reason with Hall in 2nd gaining ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 If we're talking all-time greatest Jets draft bargains (post-merger), I'd go with this as my top 10: 1. DT Joe Klecko: 6th round pick (1977) 10-year starter 2x 1st Team All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler 2. C Joe Fields: 14th round pick (1975) 12-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 2x Pro Bowler 3. G Dan Alexander: 8th round pick (1977) 13-year starter 4. LB Mo Lewis: 3rd round pick, # 63 overall (1991) 13-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 3x Pro Bowler 52.5 sacks 26 Forced Fumbles 14 INTs 5. CB James Hasty: 3rd round pick, # 74 overall (1988) 7-year starter (+ 6 additional years as starter with Chiefs) 24 INT's 6 Forced Fumbles 6. WR Laveranues Coles: 3rd round pick, # 78 overall (2000) 6-year starter (+ 3 additional years as starter with Washington/Bengals) 459 catches 2x 1,000+ yard seasons 37 TDs 7. OT Jason Fabini: 4th round pick, # 111 overall (1998) 8-year starter 8. DT/NT Jason Ferguson: 7th round pick (1997) 6-year starter 20.5 sacks 6 Forced Fumbles 6 Passes Defended 9. WR Jerricho Cotchery: 4th round pick, # 108 overall (2004) 5-year starter 358 catches 1x 1,000+ yard season 18 TD's 10. S Kerry Rhodes: 4th round pick, # 123 overall (2005) 5-year starter 23 INTs 48 Passes Defended 6 Forced Fumbles Honorable Mention - RT Kareem McKenzie: 3rd round pick, # 79 (2001) 3-year starter (+ 7 additional years as starter with Giants) 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Not even debatable: It is Chuma Edoga, 3rd Round Steal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hall because of the position he plays. Huff is a close second. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: If we're talking all-time greatest Jets draft bargains (post-merger), I'd go with this as my top 10: 1. DT Joe Klecko: 6th round pick (1977) 10-year starter 2x 1st Team All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler 2. C Joe Fields: 14th round pick (1975) 12-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 2x Pro Bowler 3. G Dan Alexander: 8th round pick (1977) 13-year starter 4. LB Mo Lewis: 3rd round pick, # 63 overall (1991) 13-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 3x Pro Bowler 52.5 sacks 26 Forced Fumbles 14 INTs 5. CB James Hasty: 3rd round pick, # 74 overall (1988) 7-year starter (+ 6 additional years as starter with Chiefs) 24 INT's 6 Forced Fumbles 6. WR Laveranues Coles: 3rd round pick, # 78 overall (2000) 6-year starter (+ 3 additional years as starter with Washington/Bengals) 459 catches 2x 1,000+ yard seasons 37 TDs 7. OT Jason Fabini: 4th round pick, # 111 overall (1998) 8-year starter 8. DT/NT Jason Ferguson: 7th round pick (1997) 6-year starter 20.5 sacks 6 Forced Fumbles 6 Passes Defended 9. WR Jerricho Cotchery: 4th round pick, # 108 overall (2004) 5-year starter 358 catches 1x 1,000+ yard season 18 TD's 10. S Kerry Rhodes: 4th round pick, # 123 overall (2005) 5-year starter 23 INTs 48 Passes Defended 6 Forced Fumbles Honorable Mention - RT Kareem McKenzie: 3rd round pick, # 79 (2001) 3-year starter (+ 7 additional years as starter with Giants) There was an Undrafted fa defensive tackle that they made into a starting guard and had a great career, think his name was Moore. And what about Wayne Chrebet? He should be near the top of this list. Robby Anderson also maybe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: There was an Undrafted fa defensive tackle that they made into a starting guard and had a great career, think his name was Moore. And what about Wayne Chrebet? He should be near the top of this list. Robby Anderson also maybe Brandon Moore…would also add Damon Harrison and even Ryan Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: If we're talking all-time greatest Jets draft bargains (post-merger), I'd go with this as my top 10: 1. DT Joe Klecko: 6th round pick (1977) 10-year starter 2x 1st Team All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler 2. C Joe Fields: 14th round pick (1975) 12-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 2x Pro Bowler 3. G Dan Alexander: 8th round pick (1977) 13-year starter 4. LB Mo Lewis: 3rd round pick, # 63 overall (1991) 13-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 3x Pro Bowler 52.5 sacks 26 Forced Fumbles 14 INTs 5. CB James Hasty: 3rd round pick, # 74 overall (1988) 7-year starter (+ 6 additional years as starter with Chiefs) 24 INT's 6 Forced Fumbles 6. WR Laveranues Coles: 3rd round pick, # 78 overall (2000) 6-year starter (+ 3 additional years as starter with Washington/Bengals) 459 catches 2x 1,000+ yard seasons 37 TDs 7. OT Jason Fabini: 4th round pick, # 111 overall (1998) 8-year starter 8. DT/NT Jason Ferguson: 7th round pick (1997) 6-year starter 20.5 sacks 6 Forced Fumbles 6 Passes Defended 9. WR Jerricho Cotchery: 4th round pick, # 108 overall (2004) 5-year starter 358 catches 1x 1,000+ yard season 18 TD's 10. S Kerry Rhodes: 4th round pick, # 123 overall (2005) 5-year starter 23 INTs 48 Passes Defended 6 Forced Fumbles Honorable Mention - RT Kareem McKenzie: 3rd round pick, # 79 (2001) 3-year starter (+ 7 additional years as starter with Giants) Honorable mention: Jerry Holmes was a great CB for the Jets from 80-83. He was an undrafted FA. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snook Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 40 minutes ago, BP said: Honorable mention: Jerry Holmes was a great CB for the Jets from 80-83. He was an undrafted FA. Yes, also back when there were 12 rounds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Fatukasi but only because he's the most established. Elite run stuffer, underrated pass rusher. Probably the most consistent player on his team. If Hall maintains his current performance level it will be him due to where he plays but it's still too early in his career to know just how good he is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: If we're talking all-time greatest Jets draft bargains (post-merger), I'd go with this as my top 10: 1. DT Joe Klecko: 6th round pick (1977) 10-year starter 2x 1st Team All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler 2. C Joe Fields: 14th round pick (1975) 12-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 2x Pro Bowler 3. G Dan Alexander: 8th round pick (1977) 13-year starter 4. LB Mo Lewis: 3rd round pick, # 63 overall (1991) 13-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 3x Pro Bowler 52.5 sacks 26 Forced Fumbles 14 INTs 5. CB James Hasty: 3rd round pick, # 74 overall (1988) 7-year starter (+ 6 additional years as starter with Chiefs) 24 INT's 6 Forced Fumbles 6. WR Laveranues Coles: 3rd round pick, # 78 overall (2000) 6-year starter (+ 3 additional years as starter with Washington/Bengals) 459 catches 2x 1,000+ yard seasons 37 TDs 7. OT Jason Fabini: 4th round pick, # 111 overall (1998) 8-year starter 8. DT/NT Jason Ferguson: 7th round pick (1997) 6-year starter 20.5 sacks 6 Forced Fumbles 6 Passes Defended 9. WR Jerricho Cotchery: 4th round pick, # 108 overall (2004) 5-year starter 358 catches 1x 1,000+ yard season 18 TD's 10. S Kerry Rhodes: 4th round pick, # 123 overall (2005) 5-year starter 23 INTs 48 Passes Defended 6 Forced Fumbles Honorable Mention - RT Kareem McKenzie: 3rd round pick, # 79 (2001) 3-year starter (+ 7 additional years as starter with Giants) Leon would be honourable mention too. He had 22 TD's in four seasons (really three and a half), which is incredible for a third down back/returner - He was such an integral player for those teams. More than Cotchery got in his 5 seasons too which is surprising. Also just extremely likeable and he got hurt by taking a risk and playing without a new contract. Was never the same. Not sure I'd include Coles because we had to give up former 1st round pick Santana Moss for those stats in his second spell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Does Mo Lewis loses points for ushering in the Brady era? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Dwayne White, the Roadgrader, was one late rounder I always really liked. 7th round pick out of Alcorn, looked like the chubby kid who got picked last in gym, blocked like a demon and was surprisingly nimble. Played 5 years for us - good player, great value pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlaw Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I’d say Huff. He is starting to look like a legit speed rusher. That is more valuable than a run stuffing defensive tackle. Michael Carter ii is a close second. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hate to be nitpicky here but how is a UDFA considered "a draft bargain" when they were in fact, not drafted? It kind of changes the question because clearly your biggest value will come from someone that you didnt have to use assets to acquire besides money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Hate to be nitpicky here no you don't hate it, you enjoy it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: no you don't hate it, you enjoy it Dont tell me my business, devil woman! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcass10 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I'd be way more comfortable answering this question a year or two from now. For now, its probably Fatusaki, but Hall has the potential to zoom by him by the end of the year. I just haven't seen enough yet. Hall becoming a number 1 CB out of round 5 is an absolute gem. Especially since we thought DB would be a crazy weakness this year. Between Huff, Guidry and MCII, there is some real late round/UDFA potential for this defense. Allows the Jets to throw more valuable resources at the OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 FHoF Christian “now possibly hitting the ocean” Hackenberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: There was an Undrafted fa defensive tackle that they made into a starting guard and had a great career, think his name was Moore. And what about Wayne Chrebet? He should be near the top of this list. Robby Anderson also maybe 5 hours ago, BP said: Honorable mention: Jerry Holmes was a great CB for the Jets from 80-83. He was an undrafted FA. I didn't include UDFA's. We're talking draft bargains so I assumed we were only talking about draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, BP said: Honorable mention: Jerry Holmes was a great CB for the Jets from 80-83. He was an undrafted FA. Bruce Harper is another of the UDFA's that had value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hall......by a wide margin. When you find a corner that can cover and tackle in those later rounds. Thank your lucky stars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: If we're talking all-time greatest Jets draft bargains (post-merger), I'd go with this as my top 10: 1. DT Joe Klecko: 6th round pick (1977) 10-year starter 2x 1st Team All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler 2. C Joe Fields: 14th round pick (1975) 12-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 2x Pro Bowler 3. G Dan Alexander: 8th round pick (1977) 13-year starter 4. LB Mo Lewis: 3rd round pick, # 63 overall (1991) 13-year starter 1x 1st Team All-Pro 3x Pro Bowler 52.5 sacks 26 Forced Fumbles 14 INTs 5. CB James Hasty: 3rd round pick, # 74 overall (1988) 7-year starter (+ 6 additional years as starter with Chiefs) 24 INT's 6 Forced Fumbles 6. WR Laveranues Coles: 3rd round pick, # 78 overall (2000) 6-year starter (+ 3 additional years as starter with Washington/Bengals) 459 catches 2x 1,000+ yard seasons 37 TDs 7. OT Jason Fabini: 4th round pick, # 111 overall (1998) 8-year starter 8. DT/NT Jason Ferguson: 7th round pick (1997) 6-year starter 20.5 sacks 6 Forced Fumbles 6 Passes Defended 9. WR Jerricho Cotchery: 4th round pick, # 108 overall (2004) 5-year starter 358 catches 1x 1,000+ yard season 18 TD's 10. S Kerry Rhodes: 4th round pick, # 123 overall (2005) 5-year starter 23 INTs 48 Passes Defended 6 Forced Fumbles Honorable Mention - RT Kareem McKenzie: 3rd round pick, # 79 (2001) 3-year starter (+ 7 additional years as starter with Giants) Joe Fields in the 14th rd. Wow. That's. Ind boggling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: I didn't include UDFA's. We're talking draft bargains so I assumed we were only talking about draft picks. I started thinking about that after I posted it. And I knew, just knew you would emphatically point that out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: There was an Undrafted fa defensive tackle that they made into a starting guard and had a great career, think his name was Moore. And what about Wayne Chrebet? He should be near the top of this list. Robby Anderson also maybe a walk on.... a true RUDY story. He should be top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, genot said: Joe Fields in the 14th rd. Wow. That's. Ind boggling. Great Jets center. On key short yardage they always ran behind fields. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Good thread 80. How about Marvin Washington. A 6th rounder. Leon Washington and Kerry Rhodes. Both 4th rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, BP said: I started thinking about that after I posted it. And I knew, just knew you would emphatically point that out. You know me too well. ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: You know me too well. ❤️ Bobby Jackson 6th rounder in 1978 was a very good corner. Unfortunately Donald Dykes was the worst cornerback in football history and Walt Michael’s had him cover Stanley Morgan in the jets 56-3 loss to the Patriots. Stanley Morgan had like 300 yards receiving in that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, BP said: Great Jets center. On key short yardage they always ran behind fields. John Schmitt-Wayne Mulligan-Joe Fields-Jim Sweeney-Roger Duffy-Kevin Mawae-Nick Mangold. Our nearly unbroken line of succession of quality Centers from 1966 until 2015 was the only consistently good thing about this franchise. But of course Maccagnan even f**ked that up. And no, while Douglas hasn't fixed the problem either, at least Connor McGovern can snap the freaking ball properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, BP said: Bobby Jackson 6th rounder in 1978 was a very good corner. Unfortunately Donald Dykes was the worst cornerback in football history and Walt Michael’s had him cover Stanley Morgan in the jets 56-3 loss to the Patriots. Stanley Morgan had like 300 yards receiving in that game. Good call. He should have been a Pro Bowler in '82. Don't know how I missed him. Only having 4 healthy seasons in his 8-year career hurts him a bit but he belongs on the list too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, JiFapono said: Hate to be nitpicky here but how is a UDFA considered "a draft bargain" when they were in fact, not drafted? It kind of changes the question because clearly your biggest value will come from someone that you didnt have to use assets to acquire besides money. You're not wrong, but I consider UDFAs to be part of the "draft" class because the players would have been drafted if they went back to the 12 round format. Hitting on an UDFA is a better achievement than hitting on a late round draft pick, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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