Popular Post Viermoo Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 As much as being a Jet fan has sucked for pretty much ever, to think we would even be near a good team this year is not realistic. We’re the youngest team in the league starting a bunch of rookies. On top of that we have a bunch of “green” coaches. Everyone in the organization is learning this year. If we don’t see improvements by next year then I’d say we have something to worry about. Until then let’s just watch for who’s developing during this season. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Third time I’m posting this today but Vegas had the Jets at 26-1 to win the AFC East this year before week 1. They should be more competitive then we have seen and hopefully that will come but winning wasn’t expected 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Viermoo said: As much as being a Jet fan has sucked for pretty much ever, to think we would even be near a good team this year is not realistic. We’re the youngest team in the league starting a bunch of rookies. On top of that we have a bunch of “green” coaches. Everyone in the organization is learning this year. If we don’t see improvements by next year then I’d say we have something to worry about. Until then let’s just watch for who’s developing during this season. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I get this team is young and full of rookies but that is mostly because our GM won't sign any FA veteran talent. It doesn't have to be like this. We are sitting on a ton of cap space. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 We had no chance of being good, by design Yeah, don’t feel any better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 We've been rebuilding forever lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Uncle Nicco Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 This was a competitive game. We make it a 3 point game with 7 minutes to go. That included the refs gifting the falcons an entire drive and 3 points to open the game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Pichula said: This was a competitive game. We make it a 3 point game with 7 minutes to go. That included the refs gifting the falcons an entire drive and 3 points to open the game. I’m honestly impressed with the fairness and optimism of this post. I do agree with the downsiders that we need to see more from the offense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I get this team is young and full of rookies but that is mostly because our GM won't sign any FA veteran talent. It doesn't have to be like this. We are sitting on a ton of cap space. We are? How much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 million in cap space, FYI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I don’t feel as if the disappointment is with the record imo the rage comes from how bad it’s looked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I get this team is young and full of rookies but that is mostly because our GM won't sign any FA veteran talent. It doesn't have to be like this. We are sitting on a ton of cap space. This. Furthermore, in order for a team full of rookies to develop into a team full of talented veterans, you need a good amount of talented veterans to show them the way. Joe Douglas has reduced the Jets to an expansion team without the benefit of an expansion draft. It didn't need to be this way. We don't have to tolerate his mistake. We don't need to sugar coat it as 'part of the process'. SAR I 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Look at Jacksonville, even with the "generational" QB their on pace to break a record losing streak.... 20 in a row in crazy to wrap your mind around. Jets just have to be better, then end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Harris Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Claymation said: 6 million in cap space, FYI. Accurate, of note is $29 mill in dead cap comes off the books after this season which is mind blowing. Also Maye walks $11 mill freed, McGovern and Fant get cut or renogiated down, another $10 - $20 mill saved. Those last two even more reason to draft draft draft OL this draft. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 We’ve earned the skepticism but part of me hopes the cancer has been cut out and this is the chemo season. $30 mill dead cap coming off the books, first two draft classes getting seasoned, began signing some “core” guys… Just sick of the constant losing, beat the hell up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I don’t think good players want to sign here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I get this team is young and full of rookies but that is mostly because our GM won't sign any FA veteran talent. It doesn't have to be like this. We are sitting on a ton of cap space. A ton. 25 year olds developing really need 29 year old FAs signed so that if and when our 25 year old team gets to 27 on average they'll overpaid 31 year olds. But you'd be happy because we won a couple of extra games and lost a few spots in the draft 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Claymation said: We are? How much? According to Sporttrac, the Jets are using less than 67% of their current cap money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Thanks for being the 100th guy to tell Me the plan was to be bad. Our GM is making it bad because he’s being stubborn thinking he can ride or die with rookies. He bet all his chips on red and black keeps coming out 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: A ton. 25 year olds developing really need 29 year old FAs signed so that if and when our 25 year old team gets to 27 on average they'll overpaid 31 year olds. But you'd be happy because we won a couple of extra games and lost a few spots in the draft I'm not getting into it with you anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I'm not getting into it with you anymore. Poor Cowbell. Hating the idea of whole thread telling you youre wrong about tons of cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Poor Cowbell. Hating the idea of whole thread telling you youre wrong about tons of cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: thought you weren't talking? Thought you said "go away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: thought you weren't talking? Thought you said "go away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Thanks for being the 100th guy to tell Me the plan was to be bad. Our GM is making it bad because he’s being stubborn thinking he can ride or die with rookies. He bet all his chips on red and black keeps coming out The plan was to be bad in 2017, Suck For Sam, remember? The plan was also to be bad in 2018, Rookie Sam Year, remember? The plan was also to show growth in 2019, we actually won 7 games, remember? Then we gave Joe Douglas full control. And we went backwards in 2020, remember? And now we’re in Year 3 of Joe Douglas and we are going backwards again in 2021. He’s looking at a 3-30 record as GM, it may be the worst GM record in NFL history. When exactly are we supposed to have expectations of not being bad? We were making progress until Joe Douglas started tinkering. Every day we give this guy we get worse. SAR I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kevinc855 Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, SAR I said: The plan was to be bad in 2017, Suck For Sam, remember? The plan was also to be bad in 2018, Rookie Sam Year, remember? The plan was also to show growth in 2019, we actually won 7 games, remember? Then we gave Joe Douglas full control. And we went backwards in 2020, remember? And now we’re in Year 3 of Joe Douglas and we are going backwards again in 2021. He’s looking at a 3-30 record as GM, it may be the worst GM record in NFL history. When exactly are we supposed to have expectations of not being bad? We were making progress until Joe Douglas started tinkering. Every day we give this guy we get worse. SAR I Joe Douglass has made this team less talented and in a worse position to win. He gathers picks and then whifs on picks. He tells the fan base who eat up his garbage like a salesman to give him more time. He is just about halfway through his contact. Now we are told to be bad again this year, and next maybe. Can people not see a con man? He’s riding out his contract aiming for an extension with the “rebuild” 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Joe Douglass has made this team less talented and in a worse position to win. He gathers picks and then whifs on picks. He tells the fan base who eat up his garbage like a salesman to give him more time. He is just about halfway through his contact. Now we are told to be bad again this year, and next maybe. Can people not see a con man? He’s riding out his contract aiming for an extension with the “rebuild” He was Adam Gase’s hand-picked yes man. And now he’s somehow been anointed King of Florham Park? It’s unbelievable. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: According to Sporttrac, the Jets are using less than 67% of their current cap money. Keep Scrolling past the active roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Pichula said: This was a competitive game. We make it a 3 point game with 7 minutes to go. That included the refs gifting the falcons an entire drive and 3 points to open the game. True. That call.was atrocious. Nfl should have a replay for aggregious calls like that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 59 minutes ago, SAR I said: This. Furthermore, in order for a team full of rookies to develop into a team full of talented veterans, you need a good amount of talented veterans to show them the way. Joe Douglas has reduced the Jets to an expansion team without the benefit of an expansion draft. It didn't need to be this way. We don't have to tolerate his mistake. We don't need to sugar coat it as 'part of the process'. SAR I we do have vets.. Moses 30 yr Joyner 31 yr Coleman 28 Crowder 28 Mosley 29 Rankins 27 Maye 28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 At what point are we allowed to hold the team accountable? At what point does Joe Douglas and his hand picked Head Coach and roster need to start producing? Yes, they are young. Yes, they are inexperienced. Those two factors have not stopped others from fielding competitive teams in the past. They are excuses, and anybody who has rooted for this team for decades is sick of hearing them. Yes, let's be realistic and concede that this team is hopeless. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Not many people expected us to win anything this year. I expected some of the new guys to look a LOT better than they have. If we were losing but seeing something out of Rb carter and Moore and someone other than Hall on defense I'd feel more hopeful. Douglas's 1st draft looks terrible and hurt for the mot part, and draft meh o far. The offensive scheme look bad and Wilson should NOT have been starting this year. Oh, also most of our WR can't catch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungry jackson Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said: We've been rebuilding forever lol. Forever is quite a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, hawk said: Keep Scrolling past the active roster. Ok, you have a point. It's about 8 million but we still could have used that to bring in someone like Minshew or a vet DB or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Not many people expected us to win anything this year. I expected some of the new guys to look a LOT better than they have. If we were losing but seeing something out of Rb carter and Moore and someone other than Hall on defense I'd feel more hopeful. Douglas's 1st draft looks terrible and hurt for the mot part, and draft meh o far. The offensive scheme look bad and Wilson should NOT have been starting this year. Oh, also most of our WR can't catch. Mims can. Free him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, you have a point. It's about 8 million but we still could have used that to bring in someone like Minshew or a vet DB or both. Oh, I wasn't really in the conversation. I was just informing you. I am excited with the team, short of QB play. That has been the worst it's ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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