Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. I'm a little traumatized by drafting safeties early but we may be looking at the ND kid with our #1 pick. 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. He forced 2 fumbles against the Colts. 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: He forced 2 fumbles against the Colts. Must have been after I turned it off. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 He had a good 1st half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: He had a good 1st half No 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Peace Frog Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 He’s a great tackler, a big hitter. But he was drafted as a hyper-athletic super fast free safety to play that deep center field knocking down passes or picking them off. He hasn’t been that guy. Mostly you notice him as the guy 5 yards away from the receiver that just caught a TD, he’s got his hand in the air questioning where the help was. You ARE the help. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: He’s a great tackler, a big hitter. But he was drafted as a hyper-athletic super fast free safety to play that deep center field knocking down passes or picking them off. He hasn’t been that guy. Mostly you notice him as the guy 5 yards away from the receiver that just caught a TD, he’s got his hand in the air questioning where the help was. You ARE the help. A great tackler? On what planet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: A great tackler? On what planet? He does not miss tackles. Almost text book. He is a very hard hitter. He just can’t do much in coverage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. I'm a little traumatized by drafting safeties early but we may be looking at the ND kid with our #1 pick. I don't know about our top pick; in/around the top 5 is too high for me for a safety. But with the Seattle pick (#11 overall heading into this weekend)? Yeah I could get on board with that, particularly since it isn't the team's only 1st round pick. Just so long as it's someone who can do a credible job in coverage and not just a small ILB. And btw they also need a MLB. Mosley is arguably a worse signing than Trumaine Johnson, seeing how he got 3 years fully guaranteed and Johnson only got 2. Mosley still has another $16MM guaranteed salary next year, too. Painful. They'll get C.Lawson back next year, and hopefully he stays healthy enough to help free up JFM more; pretty unlikely they go edge in the first 2 rounds with that much already invested in those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maury77 Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 I think Davis has been looking better lately, but what do I know. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. I'm a little traumatized by drafting safeties early but we may be looking at the ND kid with our #1 pick. You too Barry? Don't turn into one of those over reacting crybaby cunts that over run this board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 He’s the 2nd best defensive player on this awful team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: You too Barry? Don't turn into one of those over reacting crybaby cunts that over run this board. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I don't know about our top pick; in/around the top 5 is too high for me for a safety. But with the Seattle pick (#11 overall heading into this weekend)? Yeah I could get on board with that, particularly since it isn't the team's only 1st round pick. Just so long as it's someone who can do a credible job in coverage and not just a small ILB. And btw they also need a MLB. Mosley is arguably a worse signing than Trumaine Johnson, seeing how he got 3 years fully guaranteed and Johnson only got 2. Mosley still has another $16MM guaranteed salary next year, too. Painful. They'll get C.Lawson back next year, and hopefully he stays healthy enough to help free up JFM more; pretty unlikely they go edge in the first 2 rounds with that much already invested in those two. No. Get the stud edge with our first round pick and suddenly the secondary will get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Yeah he’s awful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I don't know about our top pick; in/around the top 5 is too high for me for a safety. But with the Seattle pick (#11 overall heading into this weekend)? Yeah I could get on board with that, particularly since it isn't the team's only 1st round pick. Just so long as it's someone who can do a credible job in coverage and not just a small ILB. And btw they also need a MLB. Mosley is arguably a worse signing than Trumaine Johnson, seeing how he got 3 years fully guaranteed and Johnson only got 2. Mosley still has another $16MM guaranteed salary next year, too. Painful. They'll get C.Lawson back next year, and hopefully he stays healthy enough to help free up JFM more; pretty unlikely they go edge in the first 2 rounds with that much already invested in those two. I can 100% see an edge in the first. Those are really the only guys worth targeting with a top 5 pick. There will be a few available there. JFM is only on a 1 year deal and can be replaced by the rookie who will have a 5 year contract. I’m guessing it will be Hutchinson from Michigan. He has the highest PFF grade since chase young for an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. I'm a little traumatized by drafting safeties early but we may be looking at the ND kid with our #1 pick. Yep another sLOjOE PICK. Douglas is a gd joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 This is a weird thread during Davis’s seemingly best game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maury77 Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: This is a weird thread during Davis’s seemingly best game. Davis is a third round pick who is developing into a decent starter in his second season. This is what you hope happens with 3rd round picks (as opposed to what's happened with Zuniga). 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I'm on record from draft day...was a complete reach at that point in the draft..another JD head scratcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Thought he played his best game today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 He sucks and it’s a shame that the primary compensation in the Leonard Williams trade can’t play. He was drafted on spec/upside because of his athletic profile but whatever the opposite of “instincts” are, he has them. Every time he’s in camera he’s getting toasted and looking around confused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, maury77 said: I think Davis has been looking better lately, but what do I know. Forced 2 fumbles against the Colts, and another one today. He’s made it clear that hes SS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: He does not miss tackles. Almost text book. He is a very hard hitter. He just can’t do much in coverage. He doesn’t miss making the big hit. However, he fails miserably at wrapping guys up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Thought he played his best game today. If today was his best game my conclusion of him being trash is 100% confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, maury77 said: I think Davis has been looking better lately, but what do I know. This defense is so pathetic, that is impossible to know who is playing well and who is the liability. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: No. Get the stud edge with our first round pick and suddenly the secondary will get better. Not going to happen. You may as well accept that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, BurntDice said: I can 100% see an edge in the first. Those are really the only guys worth targeting with a top 5 pick. There will be a few available there. JFM is only on a 1 year deal and can be replaced by the rookie who will have a 5 year contract. I’m guessing it will be Hutchinson from Michigan. He has the highest PFF grade since chase young for an edge. See my post above. Tied into $14MM/year for JFM and $15MM/year for Carl Lawson, and both transactions just happened in 2021. They're not then going to take an edge in the 1st round in 2022 on top of that. Not unless they change GMs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: This guy blows hard. We need to get him off the field next year. He can't just tackle someone he has to try to strip the ball every time and ends up getting dragged 3-4 yards every time. I don't think he's ever even forced a strip doing this crap. I'm a little traumatized by drafting safeties early but we may be looking at the ND kid with our #1 pick. It’s not just him it’s league wide. Everyone goes for the strip or puts a shoulder to the ball carrier . Nobody wraps up anymore or very very few do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: See my post above. Tied into $14MM/year for JFM and $15MM/year for Carl Lawson, and both transactions just happened in 2021. They're not then going to take an edge in the 1st round in 2022 on top of that. Not unless they change GMs. You need a pipeline at edge if you're running a 4-3. I get what you're saying but I wouldn't rule it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: See my post above. Tied into $14MM/year for JFM and $15MM/year for Carl Lawson, and both transactions just happened in 2021. They're not then going to take an edge in the 1st round in 2022 on top of that. Not unless they change GMs. JFM is a 1 year deal. He’s not a long term investment. Can be cut after next season with only 1.5 in dead money. Lawson can be cut after next year too with only 300k in dead money. It makes total sense to draft an edge when you don’t have any long term investments on the team at edge. JD has been very smart in giving out contracts with very little long term guarantees. Mosley will be gone after next year too. This team has very little tied into guys for the future which is great for signing in house guys once they develop and gives a lot of wiggle room for future FA acquisitions. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, CSNY said: It’s not just him it’s league wide. Everyone goes for the strip or puts a shoulder to the ball carrier . Nobody wraps up anymore or very very few do Davis is doing this in a lot of situations when it's a bad idea and he's a lightweight getting dragged when he tries. It's something you can do if someone else already has a guy wrapped up but not as the first one there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Not going to happen. You may as well accept that now. Why not? There is more in this draft than Thibodeaux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Davis is doing this in a lot of situations when it's a bad idea and he's a lightweight getting dragged when he tries. It's something you can do if someone else already has a guy wrapped up but not as the first one there. Understood but it happens all the time around the league. Tackling is not being taught anymore it’s shoulders and not wrapping up Eveyone looking looking for a big hit so they can get on the YOU GOT MOSSED segment on ESPN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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