Crappy turf saved Zachs knee

[Facts]

The ACL tear mechanism was clear by video, but two things likely saved Wilson: the loose turf and his previous PCL injury in the same knee.

After the game, Jets' head coach Robert Saleh commented on the new sod and loose turf.

Saleh said the Eagles stadium "has a new sod so it wasn't as firm as you'd want it to be. It was just laid down on I think the 29th. Hadn't been used yet."

Poor footing lowers the chance of an ACL tear. A loose ski binding helps prevent ACL tear, where the ski staying on enhances the chance. On wet days, ACL tears don't usually happen. Thus the poor footing helped spare Wilson's ACL.

Clearly the right knee shifts as Wilson cuts back. The presumption was the knee went from a normal position forward and tears the ACL. 

Given that Wilson had a PCL tear in this knee last year, he has residual posterior laxity. PCL tears (unlike ACL tears) heal without surgery but often there is residual laxity. 

If the visual shifting was Wilson's knee starting more posterior than normal and shifting forward before being stopped by an intact ACL (or only partially tears).

 

https://sicscore.com/nfl/updates/zach-wilson-injury-these-2-things-saved-wilsons-acl

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

Thank you Philadelphia thank you?

[jgb]

For some reason this article reminds me of this pre-draft comment about Darnold: “He’s like a cow on ice skates.”

That is all.

[Jetsfan80]

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, jgb said:

For some reason this article reminds me of this pre-draft comment about Darnold: “He’s like a cow on ice skates.”

That is all.

Zach's own terrible, awkward movement and a prior injury saved him from a worse injury.  Can't make this stuff up!

[jgb]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Thank you Philadelphia thank you?

I think this morning @Joe W. Namath is saying “Thank you Excedrin, thank you.”

[Origen]

You mean the 'natural grass' everyone here wants?

[Dunnie]

Zach's own terrible, awkward movement and a prior injury saved him from a worse injury.  Can't make this stuff up!

... cant make up your vitriol ... this post makes no sense at all

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[FidelioJet]

Sounds like the internet doctors making excuses.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

I think this morning @Joe W. Namath is saying “Thank you Excedrin, thank you.”

You spelled "lithium" wrong.

[Spoot-Face]

"I was wrong, but here's a totally conceivable and convoluted reason for why I was wrong."

[Spoot-Face]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

You spelled "lithium" wrong.

Wrong joe w

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

... cant make up your vitriol ... this post makes no sense at all

Far too many JN posters are truly humorless lately.  

[jgb]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

You spelled "lithium" wrong.

[Spoot-Face]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Far too many JN posters are truly humorless. 

fixed

[JetsFanatic]

21 minutes ago, Facts said:

The ACL tear mechanism was clear by video, but two things likely saved Wilson: the loose turf and his previous PCL injury in the same knee.

After the game, Jets' head coach Robert Saleh commented on the new sod and loose turf.

Saleh said the Eagles stadium "has a new sod so it wasn't as firm as you'd want it to be. It was just laid down on I think the 29th. Hadn't been used yet."

Poor footing lowers the chance of an ACL tear. A loose ski binding helps prevent ACL tear, where the ski staying on enhances the chance. On wet days, ACL tears don't usually happen. Thus the poor footing helped spare Wilson's ACL.

Clearly the right knee shifts as Wilson cuts back. The presumption was the knee went from a normal position forward and tears the ACL. 

Given that Wilson had a PCL tear in this knee last year, he has residual posterior laxity. PCL tears (unlike ACL tears) heal without surgery but often there is residual laxity. 

If the visual shifting was Wilson's knee starting more posterior than normal and shifting forward before being stopped by an intact ACL (or only partially tears).

 

https://sicscore.com/nfl/updates/zach-wilson-injury-these-2-things-saved-wilsons-acl

 

 

In other words your original prognosis was wrong.

[Sammybighead]

Stop it. Video doctor who was wrong is now trying to save face by arguing he didn’t account for sh*tty turf. Give me a break.

[Barry McCockinner]

34 minutes ago, jgb said:

For some reason this article reminds me of this pre-draft comment about Darnold: “He’s like a cow on ice skates.”

That is all.

sounds elegant, and delicious.

[Jetsfan80]

38 minutes ago, jgb said:

For some reason this article reminds me of this pre-draft comment about Darnold: “He’s like a cow on ice skates.”

That is all.

 

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

sounds elegant, and delicious.

 

@The Crusher consumed one and then used the skates to floss.

[More Cowbell]

7 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Stop it. Video doctor who was wrong is now trying to save face by arguing he didn’t account for sh*tty turf. Give me a break.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

I buy it

The good doc is seldom wrong

[JohnnyLV]

It's a blessing in disguise but it SCREAMS for the question:

If softer surfaces prevent ACL tears at some level than why in the hell is grass not mandated for every field?

 

It boggles

 

[Facts]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I buy it

The good doc is seldom wrong

People keep ignoring his track record.

Even Albert Einstein was wrong at times. 

Dr Chao is right most of the time. Doesnt mean he is 100%.

[JTJet]

2 hours ago, Facts said:

The ACL tear mechanism was clear by video, but two things likely saved Wilson: the loose turf and his previous PCL injury in the same knee.

After the game, Jets' head coach Robert Saleh commented on the new sod and loose turf.

Saleh said the Eagles stadium "has a new sod so it wasn't as firm as you'd want it to be. It was just laid down on I think the 29th. Hadn't been used yet."

Poor footing lowers the chance of an ACL tear. A loose ski binding helps prevent ACL tear, where the ski staying on enhances the chance. On wet days, ACL tears don't usually happen. Thus the poor footing helped spare Wilson's ACL.

Clearly the right knee shifts as Wilson cuts back. The presumption was the knee went from a normal position forward and tears the ACL. 

Given that Wilson had a PCL tear in this knee last year, he has residual posterior laxity. PCL tears (unlike ACL tears) heal without surgery but often there is residual laxity. 

If the visual shifting was Wilson's knee starting more posterior than normal and shifting forward before being stopped by an intact ACL (or only partially tears).

 

https://sicscore.com/nfl/updates/zach-wilson-injury-these-2-things-saved-wilsons-acl

 

 

: Paid for and brought to you by the Philadelphia Eagles PR Department. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Doc is right.  Its an absolute miracle that wasnt an ACL tear.  And until we get a comment post surgery, I still dont think we are in the clear.

[Pac]

19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Doc is right.  Its an absolute miracle that wasnt an ACL tear.  And until we get a comment post surgery, I still dont think we are in the clear.

[CSNY]

2 hours ago, Origen said:

You mean the 'natural grass' everyone here wants?

Yes   Natural grass that most likely saved a far more serious injury 

[Larz]

“Loose sod”

facts

[jgb]

53 minutes ago, Facts said:

People keep ignoring his track record.

Even Albert Einstein was wrong at times. 

Dr Chao is right most of the time. Doesnt mean he is 100%.

Both Einstein — whose own theory hypothesized the existence of black holes — and Stephen Hawking stated they did not think any actually existed. Hawking lost a bet with Kip Thorne on this question, in fact.

Couple of fuggin doofuses.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Thank you Philadelphia thank you?

First time every said...in History.

But definitely applies in this case.

[Jets1958]

2 hours ago, johnnysd said:

It's a blessing in disguise but it SCREAMS for the question:

If softer surfaces prevent ACL tears at some level than why in the hell is grass not mandated for every field?

 

It boggles

 

Cause $. Muddy games don’t sell.

[Jets1958]

12 minutes ago, CSNY said:

Yes   Natural grass that most likely saved a far more serious injury 

Sounds like we are about to start the monthly discussion about turf v sod at MetLife. The argument trotted out each time is that you can’t play the games on two schedules and have the Turf hold up over a 34 game season. It’s not as easy as saying well in Green Bay they have turf - way up north.

the sod would need to be replaced often. $$$$$ 

[CSNY]

11 minutes ago, Jets1958 said:

Sounds like we are about to start the monthly discussion about turf v sod at MetLife. The argument trotted out each time is that you can’t play the games on two schedules and have the Turf hold up over a 34 game season. It’s not as easy as saying well in Green Bay they have turf - way up north.

the sod would need to be replaced often. $$$$$ 

Not discussing as it’s been discussed multiple times. Just pointed out that natural grass saved a far more serious injury to poster that replied about natural grass 

[Origen]

2 hours ago, CSNY said:

Yes   Natural grass that most likely saved a far more serious injury 

/woosh

[Drums]

6 hours ago, Facts said:

 On wet days, ACL tears don't usually happen. Thus the poor footing helped spare Wilson's ACL.

That's actually kind of interesting. Quick Woody, move the team to London.