Jet2020 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Jetstream said: 2 TOTAL yds of offense in the 2nd half We were in the negative until the 6-7 yards on the last drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 No NFL coach is gonna make a QB switch with the score tied at 3 . Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetstream Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: No NFL coach is gonna make a QB switch with the score tied at 3 . Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app Why not? if you said "No NFL coach is gonna make a QB switch with the score tied at 30 ." then I get you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, choon328 said: There were open guys immediately in every one of the sacks that Wilson took. He is too indecisive. The only thing I try to fall back on is if it’s coaching/Lafleur developing him this way. We know Wilson has the arm talent he’s just awful, worse I’ve ever seen for the arm talent. The OC and QB coach has to take a hit for this. To what extent you have to be in the locker room to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, HessStation said: The only thing I try to fall back on is if it’s coaching/Lafleur developing him this way. We know Wilson has the arm talent he’s just awful, worse I’ve ever seen for the arm talent. The OC and QB coach has to take a hit for this. To what extent you have to be in the locker room to know The offense has looked acceptable in nearly every other game with other QBs under center. Zach Wilson is the problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Watching actual QB play tonight is .... frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Jetstream said: Saleh is doubling down on Zach He is losing the locker room because of it. Wilson’s stance at the postgame news conference wasn’t just to spurn the media. Sources inside the Jets’ losing locker room told SNY that Wilson was walking around after the game “like he isn’t the problem.” It rubbed more than a few the wrong way, frustrating several others. And that was before his words began to spread like wildfire. If defensive teammates were ticked off before, it’s not going to get any better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: Watching actual QB play tonight is .... frustrating So true, watched the Dallas game and on a Dak 5 yard completion I was like "wow, that's really nice." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoublee Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The offense has looked acceptable in nearly every other game with other QBs under center. Zach Wilson is the problem.This is the ONLY reason I give MLF a slight pass even though I think his game play calling is horrible. Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Vader said: They should have been running the wildcat with streveler The Bears and Ravens dismantled the Pats defense with Lamar (107 yds, 1 TD) and Fields (82 yds, 1 TD) running all over the place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: The offense has looked acceptable in nearly every other game with other QBs under center. Zach Wilson is the problem. Not defending Zach, but c'mon bro. Flacco was azz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: The Bears and Ravens dismantled the Pats defense with Lamar (107 yds, 1 TD) and Fields (82 yds, 1 TD) running all over the place... I made this ping earlier. This Pats D is good, but very bearable. Zach made them look dominant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: Not defending Zach, but c'mon bro. Flacco was azz... That’s the point. Fkacco isn’t anything special, yet superior to Zach in every way when it comes to complementing the rest of the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, peekskill68 said: Not defending Zach, but c'mon bro. Flacco was azz... I said “nearly every other game”. Not ALL of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I said “nearly every other game”. Not ALL of them. What's the % number of games where the offense looked acceptable with Flacco and White? Does it crack 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 15 hours ago, C Mart said: Why doesn’t it fit him? It's like trying to put a Brett Favre type of player whose strength is throwing downfield into a Mac Jones type of limited player. It doesn't work. Let him throw the ball around and learn when not to pull the trigger. We would have scored more than 3 points and he may have had two turnovers - or he would gain confidence and have the chance to play really well. All of a sudden everyone wants conservative play from the QB because our D is so good and it's hurting the development of a QB because you are handcuffing him. I would let him totally loose against the Bears and if he starts misfiring or turning the ball over you bring in Mike White and start him the following week. The ultimate prize is a Super Bowl. To win one you need both sides to be really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 GW is one of “us” Has the balls to say what Saleh won’t Saleh said the offense was “dogsh-t” but then he’s asked about the QB and immediately shifts to PVO mollycoddling mode It’s transparent and embarrassing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: GW is one of “us” Has the balls to say what Saleh won’t Saleh said the offense was “dogsh-t” but then he’s asked about the QB and immediately shifts to PVO mollycoddling mode It’s transparent and embarrassing Can't run a company or team where everyone is held accountable except one person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: GW is one of “us” Has the balls to say what Saleh won’t Saleh said the offense was “dogsh-t” but then he’s asked about the QB and immediately shifts to PVO mollycoddling mode It’s transparent and embarrassing GW is emerging as the leader of the offense. They really need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Greensleeves said: It's like trying to put a Brett Favre type of player whose strength is throwing downfield into a Mac Jones type of limited player. It doesn't work. Let him throw the ball around and learn when not to pull the trigger. We would have scored more than 3 points and he may have had two turnovers - or he would gain confidence and have the chance to play really well. All of a sudden everyone wants conservative play from the QB because our D is so good and it's hurting the development of a QB because you are handcuffing him. I would let him totally loose against the Bears and if he starts misfiring or turning the ball over you bring in Mike White and start him the following week. The ultimate prize is a Super Bowl. To win one you need both sides to be really good. That’s not an O scheme thing. That’s a philosophy thing. And I dont disagree with you. But because the D is so good, a SB caliber D, they are now trying to win while developing a QB. In NY, with a franchise that hasn’t been in the playoffs 10+ yrs, that’s almost impossible to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 18 hours ago, genot said: If Wilson is the QB next week, this is still a dog shi. Organization. Wilson is a bust. Everyone can see that. Playing him, means your not serious about winning. He can't do the basics, thT many 3rd string QB's could do. A total embarrassment It's also not fair to play Zach against all of the top defenses and then when you get to see him play a softer D you bench him. For what, so he can then come back against Buffalo in Buffalo. You have to see if you can give him some confidence. If he isn't playing well against the Bears then yank him. There is a reason why he is the starter, it's because his talent level is better. Jets fans need him to be great because we have no other option right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 RE: Garrett Wilson frustration… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 hours ago, K_O_Brien said: What's the % number of games where the offense looked acceptable with Flacco and White? Does it crack 50? What's the % for Wilson? Does it crack 20 %? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: What's the % for Wilson? Does it crack 20 %? It's 45% (nine acceptable performances, 11 terrible ones). Now back to the original question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 hours ago, Jetstream said: it's true...can't defend Zach, but who knows Mims makes that catch and maybe the offense gets a rhythm there and has a better drive, day, field position... really dude? you are trying to say that one dropped pass is the reason zach wilson sucked yesterday? that only id mims would have caught that pass wilson would have been good? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I wish they would let me throw it 12 times in the second half of a football game to see how many yards I can get! I’m pretty sure it will be more then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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