TuscanyTile2 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 For future reference, it's 12/24/2022. The Jets are 7-8, currently on a 4 game losing streak. ZW just bombed against Trevor Lawrence and the Jags on Thursday Night Football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Slightly below average at best. His defense was a "flash in the pan" in 2022. TBD in 2023. His time management and reluctance to sit Zach Wilson cost this team some critical losses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I don’t fire him but I voted for below average. But give him credit for improvement in defense. Some of those Ls were real close games that could have gone either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 It’s tough to grade him yet, I need to see him next season. I always thought 2023 was the year we should make the playoffs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted December 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2022 Bad timing for this poll after a bad loss, But until a week or two ago, Saleh was in the coach of the year conversation. Right now he’s a good coach with a bad QB. How much better than good he can be will depend on how the QB situation gets resolved in a few months 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Anyone voting anything above "average" needs to explain. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Had the team looking legit. A plus. Crash and burn down the stretch. F. Thought this was a 7 win team before the season. If we get to 8 give him a C. Gets to 9 give him a B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Changed the culture, but he’s on a 4 game streak of being out coached and he’s on the verge of going 7-10 after being 6-3 No excuses, you are what your record says you are 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Right now I'd say average. The defensive turnaround this season has really buoyed him. He's a players coach who has rebuilt the culture and the team, overall seems to be trending in the right direction. That said he's 11-21 in two years. I'm fairly forgiving of year one but next year is playoffs or bust for Saleh and Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Hes above average. he would be excellent if he learns more on the offensive side of things. His mistake was not hiring any veteran guys to be coordinators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Not impressed plus the way he handled Zach was not good for him. Benching him then bringing him back like that. He injected himself into the problem doing it that way, now people can fairly or unfairly point at him and say he damaged the raw QB confidence it is his fault. That's what it looks like from the outside in. Now we all know Zach was on downward spiral anyway but IMO he had 2 choices 1. Bench him and put him on ice indefinitely (let him fight for roster spot in training camp) 2. Do not bench but rather let him fight through the issues at expense of the season and address QB in off season He should have chose what was behind door number 2 for his own sake. He put himself squarely on hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Facts said: Anyone voting anything above "average" needs to explain. Jets were dead last in yards allowed and points allowed last season. They are 3rd and 5th this season. Saleh is a defensive coach. Over under Jet wins this year was 5.5. Saleh was top 4 in coach of the year odds a month ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Bronx said: Slightly below average at best. His defense was a "flash in the pan" in 2022. TBD in 2023. His time management and reluctance to sit Zach Wilson cost this team some critical losses. He also doesn't seem to hold his offensive and defensive coordinators accountable for their poor coaching. His loyalty to his guys puts him as a below-average head coach in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 C? C+? Not pulling Zach Thursday until the game was out of hand made no sense. It was clear as day he couldn’t effectively move the offense and the season was on the line, you gotta go to plan B at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tooooon said: Jets were dead last in yards allowed and points allowed last season. They are 3rd and 5th this season. Saleh is a defensive coach. Over under Jet wins this year was 5.5. Saleh was top 4 in coach of the year odds a month ago. I give him one more year. Coach of the year in November means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tooooon said: Jets were dead last in yards allowed and points allowed last season. They are 3rd and 5th this season. Saleh is a defensive coach. Over under Jet wins this year was 5.5. Saleh was top 4 in coach of the year odds a month ago. Cool so hire him as a DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Facts said: Cool so hire him as a DC. You ignored the rest of the post. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said: I give him one more year. Coach of the year in November means nothing. I agree. But the question wasn’t what do you think is Saleh’s future. It was “explain why you voted for Saleh being above average” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2022 Author Share Posted December 25, 2022 Ftr, I create these polls as a way to get a snapshot of "where we're at" at a certain time. Obviously everything is tenuous and the difference between winning and losing can be very small things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraJETfan Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Facts said: Anyone voting anything above "average" needs to explain. Well, he's had one of the worst QBs in modern NFL history start for 2/3 of his head coaching career and despite that he has them still in the hunt this year. Defense took a big jump this year. He handled some very delicate situations this year with grace and class and the players will fight to the end for him and For those reasons I voted slightly above average. Which is about 55-60% out of a possible 100%. His in game strategies need a lot of work but I think no longer having to walk on eggshells over the Zach situation will give him some more freedom to coach how he sees fit. He was probably handcuffed when it came to benching Zach in those critical NE games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 He’s average. Definitely has improved since last season. Defense is better. Clock management is questionable though. Should have kept Wilson on the sidelines. Not to state the obvious but next season is huge for Saleh. Could be coaching for his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, ultraJETfan said: Well, he's had one of the worst QBs in modern NFL history start for 2/3 of his head coaching career and despite that he has them still in the hunt this year. Defense took a big jump this year. He handled some very delicate situations this year with grace and class and the players will fight to the end for him and For those reasons I voted slightly above average. Which is about 55-60% out of a possible 100%. His in game strategies need a lot of work but I think no longer having to walk on eggshells over the Zach situation will give him some more freedom to coach how he sees fit. He was probably handcuffed when it came to benching Zach in those critical NE games. In the hunt?? They’re probably going to finish 7-10 or 8-9. Same as Gase did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 11 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: For future reference, it's 12/24/2022. The Jets are 7-8, currently on a 4 game losing streak. ZW just bombed against Trevor Lawrence and the Jags on Thursday Night Football. All I heard all preseason was that the Jets season would be a success if they played meaningful games in December. Well, the Jets played meaningful games in December after being decimated with injuries on the OL and being forced to play a clearly benched QB the past two weeks. What would the grades be if White played and the Jets were 8-7 or 9-6???? A coach can't continually make chicken salad from chicken $#I! He's done a good job building a top flight defense in one season and I don't see how you can blame Saleh for the Wilson failure.It's not a coaching issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2022 Author Share Posted December 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: A coach can't continually make chicken salad from chicken $#I! He's made "Chicken Saleh". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 He’s done a lot better than could be expected with historically putrid QB play but he’s too New Agey for me. What can I say I like coaches like Parcells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 With a trash ass QN - Average With a franchise QB - Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 I read a bunch of posts and gave up. I am generally a cynical guy. but you guys are nuts. Saleh has been good. Is he great? Remains to be seen. Things are on schedule. The fact he isn't calling people out in public is a negative? Stupid. People complain he benched Wilson and that he didn't and he didn't at the right time? Ridiculous Put me down as pro- Saleh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Slightly above average. From the outside, it seems like he runs a decent, professional program, and his players respect him. The turnaround of the defense from year 1 to year 2 has been pretty remarkable. The clock management in key moments has left much to be desired. Bottom line, with middle of the road quarterback play, this is a playoff team under his leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 25, 2022 Author Share Posted December 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I read a bunch of posts and gave up. I am generally a cynical guy. but you guys are nuts. Saleh has been good. Is he great? Remains to be seen. Things are on schedule. The fact he isn't calling people out in public is a negative? Stupid. People complain he benched Wilson and that he didn't and he didn't at the right time? Ridiculous Put me down as pro- Saleh. 58 of the 75 votes are "Average" or better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: 58 of the 75 votes are "Average" or better. If everyone doesn’t agree, burn it all down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverbackJet Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 He turned us around somewhat but feel like his hands are tied regarding ownership (qb wise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Defensive coach in a time where Offensive coaching skills are necessary. Needs strong OC and has best friends bro learning on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, jgb said: He’s done a lot better than could be expected with historically putrid QB play but he’s too New Agey for me. What can I say I like coaches like Parcells. Besides belichick are there any coaches like that anymore? I’m not sure how well being a hardass will work in todays era. Guys are a lot softer and social media/beat reporters cling on every word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 For being a first time HC I think he’s done pretty well. The team seems to love him. Sure there are some bumps along the way with clock management, seeing what he can say to the beat, coaching staff construction, player production issues and knowing when to bench among other things but those will probably come with experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Average. He’s Herm Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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