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Dude is a high injury risk but he's also probably the best choice if there isn't a change at OC. Knows the system, knows the coaches, has proven to perform well enough and his long range accuracy isn't an issue because LaFleur loves passes behind the LOS. 

If the Jets sign him, White is probably gone. They will need to bring in somebody more durable as a #2/#3 with ZW. White might want to test the market, anyway, knowing the Jets wouldn't seriously consider him competition for the starting job. 

If the Jets make a change at OC, I wouldn't put a injury prone QB at the top of my list.

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3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

You think the Pennington's lack of arm strength was "overrated"?!   How can you possibly argue that?  That was THE thing that held him back.

Because he was still a good QB?  I mean we're not talking about signing Patrick Mahomes....we're talking about bringing in a good QB.  Was Pennington not a good QB??

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7 minutes ago, bonkertons said:

Because he was still a good QB?  I mean we're not talking about signing Patrick Mahomes....we're talking about bringing in a good QB.  Was Pennington not a good QB??

He wasn't that good and he was very limited.  He couldn't throw deep.  He couldn't throw sideline passes down the field.  He got exposed by good teams.  When he won the division with Miami he was a disaster in the playoffs against the Ravens.  

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4 hours ago, usanyj said:

Also, don't underestimate the actions of a desperate man.  JD is GMing for his job this offseason.  You may see him take some risks he hasn't taken in the previous years. Who knows what he could try to get to the playoffs next year.

Which is why "playoff mandates" are a horrible strategy.  GMs need to look both short and long term, but when you put a GM under pressure to win now, the long term goes out the window. What does a GM care if his 4 year $120 million gamble doesn't work out in 2023 and he is out of a job and the team is saddled with an expensive Qb in 2024-26?  

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The Niners did swing for the fence.
In the 2021 NFL Draft, the NFC West franchise selected quarterback Trey Lance as the overall third pick in the first round. The Niners, however, used three first-rounders and a third-round pick to acquire Lance.
 

Right. But how many snaps has Lance taken? And they were able to compile a solid staple of backups. Point is, they aren't relying on qb1 to be a pro bowler.


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4 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Being in the NY market is an excellent jumping off point for retirement opportunities. And the Jets compare well to other teams that might be interested with the exception of the Bucs  --- and unless perhaps the Titans are desirous of Jimmy G's services. 

The NFL is a national market.  There is no advantage or disadvantage being on a big or small market team.  Rodgers and Mahomes are in commercials left and right playing in two tiny markets.  This NY market thing is a myth for NFL players.  

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38 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He wasn't that good and he was very limited.  He couldn't throw deep.  He couldn't throw sideline passes down the field.  He got exposed by good teams.  When he won the division with Miami he was a disaster in the playoffs against the Ravens.  

Eh, Ravens were an absolute monster back then from what I recall, but fair.  Either way overall he was a good QB from what I remember, but still, Jimmy has a better arm and is arguably a better QB now than Penny was back in the day.  Still, I guess we should just hope that, if we get him, our supporting cast these next couple of years are better than what Pennington had to work with.  The OL is miles behind what Penny had, but IMO every other aspect of this team is well on it's way.  

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22 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

The NFL is a national market.  There is no advantage or disadvantage being on a big or small market team.  Rodgers and Mahomes are in commercials left and right playing in two tiny markets.  This NY market thing is a myth for NFL players.  

I was not talking commercial spokesmanship .There are business opportunities and other money to be made in NYC that are not available in Green Bay Wisconsin and Kansas City Missouri. 

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5 hours ago, bonkertons said:

Let's face it, he's the perfect choice.  An actual UFA, no trade assets required.  The ties to the coaching staff, system fit, proven #1 and winner.  Injury history should keep the price down, and honestly I can see this staff seeing his injury history as somewhat of a positive in that it should open the door for Zach to get one more shot in 2023.  It's clear they are not ready to bail on their 2nd overall pick investment just yet.  You bring in Jimmy and you did your due diligence of dramatically upgrading the position while also keeping hope alive for Zach to still be the guy here.  He is THE perfect fit.  I'll be shocked if he's not the guy.  

Makes sense if they keep LaFleur. He can't develop a QB so giving him one that's already familiar with his system makes sense. Id' rather see him gone but if not, guess this is next best thing. 

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5 hours ago, bonkertons said:

Let's face it, he's the perfect choice.  An actual UFA, no trade assets required.  The ties to the coaching staff, system fit, proven #1 and winner.  Injury history should keep the price down, and honestly I can see this staff seeing his injury history as somewhat of a positive in that it should open the door for Zach to get one more shot in 2023.  It's clear they are not ready to bail on their 2nd overall pick investment just yet.  You bring in Jimmy and you did your due diligence of dramatically upgrading the position while also keeping hope alive for Zach to still be the guy here.  He is THE perfect fit.  I'll be shocked if he's not the guy.  

Injury history may keep the price down, but going to one of the most injury plagued teams most years seems to be a recipe for disaster. He gets hurt every season and tears something every other season. The first game he leaves with injury all of us call for JD's head.

I was really high on Jimmy G until he got hurt this season. It's too much.

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6 hours ago, hotrodcharlie said:

Jimmy G would be the perfect choice if there isn't a change in the coaching staff.

But I personally think there is going to be so then who knows, it opens the door for anyone

Exactly. I would hope the OC and system change. Let's play to the talents of our players and not our inexperienced coaches talent. Any OC worth their salt should be able to figure out players strengths and weaknesses, especially since they see them every day in practice. 

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8 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Carr's a churchy headcase who's never won anything.

I think people need to get used to the idea that there is no good outcome here. Every single possibility sucks in some fundamental way. That's what happens when you whiff on a QB with the second overall pick.

Stop gap Vet until Zach gets a proper coach to help him like TL got in Jacksonville with Pederson and boom! Would love AROD for a year or two to help bring Zach along.

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6 hours ago, Dcat said:

If they bring in Jimmy G or any vet for that matter, Mike White is definitely gone.  It will be the vet and Zach and maybe a draft choice somewhere. 

I think you’re right. Mfw played well enough to get a good look.  I doubt if he’d be signed to be a starter.  He might get a chance to compete.

as for jimmy g, one of the better choices available.

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23 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

You think the Pennington's lack of arm strength was "overrated"?!   How can you possibly argue that?  That was THE thing that held him back.

Because Jimmy Gs arm is nowhere as weak as Chads arm?  And Jimmy Gs release is fast

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Mrs. Werblin advised me yesterday that if the Jets sign Jimmy G, she expects me to secure seats behind the Jets bench for every home game. Seriously, she knows nothing about football, but she knows everything about Jimmy G. When I tried to lower her "esteem" for Jimmy by pointing out that he dated porn stars, she authoritatively retorted, "it was only one and he broke up with her a long time ago!"

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19 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He wasn't that good and he was very limited.  He couldn't throw deep.  He couldn't throw sideline passes down the field.  He got exposed by good teams.  When he won the division with Miami he was a disaster in the playoffs against the Ravens.  

And yet , you keeping pushing for Mike White. 

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