slimjasi Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, JiF said: The issue is, the Jets are scared out of their wazooo, he wont play another season or at least that's what this report is sharing. And when was the the last time Aaron Rodgers went on a "deep playoff run"? In the NFC nonetheless... Two and three years ago? LOL Lost to the 49ers and Bucs in back to back NFC championship games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Meh. Next year's 1st is going to be one pick before the start of the 2nd round anyway. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, rtnelson said: Giving up a couple second round picks doesn't tank a franchise. We still have a few good picks this year, and appear to be building a pretty solid offense around an all time QB while the defense was top 5 last year and should still be strong. There is legitimate reason for optimism around a potential deep playoff run for at least this coming year if not the next two years. This. Beginning with the first year of Mahomes starting, KC drafted Breeland Meeks then Mecole Hardman. The following year’s 1st after them was Edwards-Helaire. No one at all irreplaceable they couldn’t have found later in the draft (or outside the draft outright). In hindsight I’m sure it’ll be popular to focus on the excellent (if not great) 2nd rounders we could’ve drafted, disallowing the odds being 4:1 they’d have taken someone else over a now-cherrypicked selection, and at least a 1 in 3 chance that either of the picks ended up being somewhere between a letdown and a bust (e.g. Moore, Mims, etc.). I think he’ll play two years, but it’s far from certain (hence the Jets wanting something back in ‘25 if he only plays this season, and the Packers allegedly balking at that request). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, JetPotato said: Meh. Next year's 1st is going to be one pick before the start of the 2nd round anyway. Hopefully pick 25 or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Not sure why everyone just believes Charles Robinson. I'm fine with it if that's the package but I have a feeling it's not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, rtnelson said: So we gave up Elijah Moore, a third round pick, and a second round pick next year. If that would have been the deal straight up I think it would be easier for you guys to swallow. Because I don't think we were big fans of E Moore around here anyway. It's a decent deal assuming he plays both years and is actually still playing at a top 5 level. Let's win some games. Some here act like the Jets have had competent QB play the past 50 yrs. When in actuality it has probably been just 10 in those 50 yrs. They also seem to think the Jets can just use another 2nd or 1st pick to draft another college QB...Yeah this fanbase is so patient when going that route. Zach Darnold Hackenberg Geno Sanchez Clemens Chad Nagle Let's go win some games and see what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: This. Beginning with the first year of Mahomes starting, KC drafted Breeland Meeks then Mecole Hardman. The following year’s 1st after them was Edwards-Helaire. No one at all irreplaceable they couldn’t have found later in the draft (or outside the draft outright). In hindsight I’m sure it’ll be popular to focus on the excellent (if not great) 2nd rounders we could’ve drafted, disallowing the odds being 4:1 they’d have taken someone else over a now-cherrypicked selection, and at least a 1 in 3 chance that either of the picks ended up being somewhere between a letdown and a bust (e.g. Moore, Mims, etc.). I think he’ll play two years, but it’s far from certain (hence the Jets wanting something back in ‘25 if he only plays this season, and the Packers allegedly balking at that request). I think he’ll continue to play if the team wins 10-12 games and makes noise in the playoffs. If this team is barely above .500 and no playoffs? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, JiF said: lmfao they're doing all this, for 1 shot at glory. Oh Jets, never change. You couldn't exaggerate more if you wanted to. Never change? Well they've been trying rookies for a while now.. since Favre for a 4th rounder, I think. Pennington, Sanchez, Smith, Darnold, and the piece de resistance, Zach Wilson. Sprinkle a little Fitzpatrick in here and there. So this would be a huge change. LOL @ "never change" Can we get Lamar for a single #1 pick and should we considering his obvious limitations and nearly guaranteed to miss boatloads of time over the course of his contract? In addition, we'd need a new OC and a completely revamped offensive scheme to go along with Lamar. So can he be had for #13? If they want much more, then forget it. For the record, the Rodgers compensation, as speculated in these tweets and threads is too high IMO, so either way, there is pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, jtomm said: Too much. We should just go with wilson. Why is it too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 If only the Packers had an owner as impulsive as the Johnsons. This trade would have been done already. Unfortunately, they are a public owned entity, and appearances are important for them. The good thing is that in Douglas, the Jets have someone that can seemingly temper that impulsive owner, and stare someone in the eye. Let time travel here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pac said: Not sure why everyone just believes Charles Robinson. I'm fine with it if that's the package but I have a feeling it's not. Yeah and Yahoo sports blows, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I don't buy it. Far too much. Not even really close to proper value. I would really lose a bit of respect I have for JD if this was the actual trade. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Throwing away second rounders for one all-in year for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year? I’m sure this is gonna turn out great. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Throwing away second rounders for one all-in year for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year? I’m sure this is gonna turn out great. We might miss out on Elijiah Moore or Denzel Mims. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 It would also be interesting to see what the jets would get back if Rodgers does not play next year. I would think it would have to be decent, the packers throwing the jets a 7th in 2025 shouldn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, Scott Dierking said: We might miss out on Elijiah Moore or Denzel Mims. need anyone post the past 30 years of NY Jets 2nd round picks? If you want to see a real horror show, go do that. It's the most dazzling list you'll ever see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: This. Beginning with the first year of Mahomes starting, KC drafted Breeland Meeks then Mecole Hardman. The following year’s 1st after them was Edwards-Helaire. No one at all irreplaceable they couldn’t have found later in the draft (or outside the draft outright). In hindsight I’m sure it’ll be popular to focus on the excellent (if not great) 2nd rounders we could’ve drafted, disallowing the odds being 4:1 they’d have taken someone else over a now-cherrypicked selection, and at least a 1 in 3 chance that either of the picks ended up being somewhere between a letdown and a bust (e.g. Moore, Mims, etc.). I think he’ll play two years, but it’s far from certain (hence the Jets wanting something back in ‘25 if he only plays this season, and the Packers allegedly balking at that request). I get your point. But difference being they throughout all of that had a franchise QB. We could be without draft picks AND no QB. I tend to lean to AR playing 2 years. So it’d be worth it for 2 runs. But if it’s only 1 season (even with GB kicking back a pick). It really is a bad trade unless we make a deep run into the playoffs (AFCCG at bare minimum). AR only plays 1 year we gave up a 2nd and likely a 1st and have no QB in 2024 and beyond with no 1st rounder in that draft. Not a great spot to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Who cares, just get it done. Everyone complains about draft picks and as we know, the draft is a crap shoot. We lose a couple of 2nd rounders, but we can pick up more players in FA. God, we've sucked my whole life so giving a couple of 2nds for Rodgers is fine. My 2 cents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, JiF said: lmfao they're doing all this, for 1 shot at glory. Oh Jets, never change. It's madness. Potentially franchise killing madness. I will be ill if we trade that much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Throwing away second rounders for one all-in year for a team that didn’t make the playoffs last year? I’m sure this is gonna turn out great. Oh no, what will we do without Devin Smith?!!!?!? *intense eye roll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It's madness. Potentially franchise killing madness. I will be ill if we trade that much. Franchise killing? This franchise hasn't been alive in decades. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: This seems ok but honestly, I would be ok just giving them the first this year and be done with it except for protection if he doesn't play in 2024. We aren't getting studs in this draft. At best we get someone who helps. Everyone is overvalueing this pick. How do you know that? There are no “studs” in this entire draft? There are good and great players in every draft and a team gives away a chance to draft one when a pick is traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dcat said: need anyone post the past 30 years of NY Jets 2nd round picks? If you want to see a real horror show, go do that. It's the most dazzling list you'll ever see. And that is with an apparently competent GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnnysd said: It's madness. Potentially franchise killing madness. I will be ill if we trade that much. You guys are so dramatic. you know what’s “Franchise killing?” - not having a good QB. For a change, the jets have a decent young roster. It makes sense to get a decent QB to, you know, actually try and compete. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 June 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: I didn’t say Burger at all for submission. I would expect center from Minnesota to start day one. They evidently love this kid. The OT @ 13 would obviously be in the rotation. and provide depth. Defensive tackle would also be put in the rotation with Thomas and JFM. Linebacker would obviously watch Kwan or Mosley And be developed. How do you know this??? Lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: I didn’t say Burger at all for submission. I would expect center from Minnesota to start day one. They evidently love this kid. The OT @ 13 would obviously be in the rotation. and provide depth. Defensive tackle would also be put in the rotation with Thomas and JFM. Linebacker would obviously watch Kwan or Mosley And be developed. How do you know this??? Lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Oh no, what will we do without Devin Smith?!!!?!? *intense eye roll Or Stephen Hill or prob 20 others that I am simply too lazy to rack my brain trying to remember. They have a shot at Aaron Rodgers with a talented roster at a presumed cost of 2 2nd rounders. Take the shot and if Rodgers has anything left which I think most believe he does, you most likely get 2 years of very exciting football and a shot at glory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 A pair of 2nds? Yes and yes. Come home, Aaron. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, oatmeal said: How do you know this??? Lmfao There was a report that they have met with him at Senior Bowl (or something similar ) Combine and again at Pro Day. Thats pretty indicative of a high level of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, ganggreen305 said: Who cares, just get it done. Everyone complains about draft picks and as we know, the draft is a crap shoot. We lose a couple of 2nd rounders, but we can pick up more players in FA. God, we've sucked my whole life so giving a couple of 2nds for Rodgers is fine. My 2 cents. You are the best hope for the GB negotiating team…… impatience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Why are we bidding against ouselves? The Jets do NOT need to give up a 2nd rd pick (42 or 43) this year. Wait until after the draft before you trade for a QB who will be out the league in a year or two. Please do not give up any of our 3 PREMIUM picks in the top 50 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Who cares. Woody put Douglas in position to be all in on Rodgers. The deal should look exactly like the Favre deal but we tipped our hand a litte early. At the end of the day it doesn't matter that much. We have a cheerleader as a HC and an OC who didn't call plays or design the Green Bay O and ran one of the worst offenses in the NFL last year. We need a veteran who can run the show on the offensive side if were going anywhere. Were overpaying so what. We overpayed for Parcells and NE overpayed in compensation for BB. The overpay was worth it. It changed the course of the organization. In this case it's a 1 year run which will be fun for the fan base and it possibly saves the HC and GM's job. If we overpay so what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachWilsonRightArm Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 We’re quibbling over a couple 2nd round picks for a QB thats a bonafide hall of famer and was just a back to back MVP a year ago? Get this done. Give me a reason to believe that for the first time in 12 years we actually have a team on the field that can beat anyone on Sundays, Mondays or Thursdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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