Rhg1084 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Guess he’s going to be on the squad this year. Seemed like a forgone conclusion that there was no way he’d be back whether he was included in the trade or just out right released. But with reports AR is going to give the Jets some favorable contract language i guess they’ll be able to fit him under the cap for this season. This is good for us cause it plugs another hole and we can just focus on drafting the best OT at 15 instead of thinking about WR. Also, the WR corps of: GW, Lazard, Corey Davis, and Hardman is a pretty good set of weapons for Rodgers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasyt Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Yes............and six other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) They've got five draft picks. I'd expect him to get shopped during the draft. could hang around if there are no takers and that's not a bad thing. Edited April 25, 2023 by AFJF 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Could do worse than Corey as a reserve receiver. I’d expect Rodgers will now start influencing some of these decisions. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. Lazard has played 42.8% of his career snaps from the slot and Hackett certainly played him there when he was in GB, so you could definitely see him there next year (but who knows how the Jets will choose to use him). https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/17/ny-jets-allen-lazard-breakdown/#:~:text=For his career%2C Lazard lined,on 3.9% of his routes. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, jgb said: Could do worse than Corey as a reserve receiver. I’d expect Rodgers will now start influencing some of these decisions. Except I don't think JD sees him as a "reserve". JD has shown a penchant for faith/belief in "his guys" more than most might expect. Zach, still here, Davis, still here, Becton, seemingly the plan at OT, Mims, still here, etc. I won't be shocked if Davis is on the field as a starter with Wilson and Lazard week 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, slimjasi said: Lazard has played 42.8% of his career snaps from the slot and Hackett certainly played him there when he was in GB, so you could definitely see him there next (but who knows how the Jets will choose to use him). https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/17/ny-jets-allen-lazard-breakdown/#:~:text=For his career%2C Lazard lined,on 3.9% of his routes. Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Except I don't think JD sees him as a "reserve". JD has shown a penchant for faith/belief in "his guys" more than most might expect. Zach, still here, Davis, still here, Becton, seemingly the plan at OT, Mims, still here, etc. I won't be shocked if Davis is on the field as a starter with Wilson and Lazard week 1. I should've been more specific, I mean WR3. But you're right, that's a starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. Both Davis and Lazard are capable of handling the "big slot" role, so likely both will line up there sometimes - with Hardman mixed in. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, Warfish said: Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. Would actually play G. Wilson in the slot a ton this year with Lazard and Davis (if he's here) on outside. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, mrcoops said: Both Davis and Lazard are capable of handling the "big slot" role, so likely both will line up there sometimes - with Hardman mixed in. Jeeze I forgot about Hardman. This offense is loaded. No wonder Rodgers wanted to play here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 A few things here. Todd Downing has a history with Corey Davis. He might have requested he stick around. They may be seeing who is available in the draft and if they take a receiver, Davis becomes expendable. I still think it is up in the air as to if Davis returns but Im leaning towards he will be returning. If he does, he will be the starter as he is a better player then Allen Lazard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He’s been a disappointment from the aspect of games played/ contract , but keeping him is pretty important. It’s not safe to say he’s staying for another week at least I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. I think it's possible he could split the role with Hardman, but I also think it's still very possible we bring in another WR. Depends a lot on what happens with Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Jeeze I forgot about Hardman. This offense is loaded. No wonder Rodgers wanted to play here. Educate me JGB, what do you see about Hardman that excites you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I think Corey Davis with a good consistent QB could be interesting 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Corey Davis has been a disappointment because he's been unreliable. When he's not hurt (which is fairly often), he's dropping drive killing third down receptions too often. The talent is there. He has flashed it plenty of times. He needs to stay healthy and limit the number of mental mistakes. Perhaps he'll put it all together with Aaron Rodgers slinging the rock out there. He can certainly find a role on this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Educate me JGB, what do you see about Hardman that excites you? As a starter, not much. But it'll be the first time in forever that non-Jets fans know the name of the Jets WR4 (5 if we draft a guy). He also has elite wheels and has a very good chance to be our returner IMHO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Educate me JGB, what do you see about Hardman that excites you? Guy can blow the top off a defense with his elite speed. Defenses have to account for him as a deep threat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. You've said that before. I'm not sure I get your thinking. How many snaps did Jimmy Graham take from the slot? Why do you think Wilson playing slot would be "a waste?" Was it a waste when Cooper Kupp played from the slot? It just gets them an easier release. IMO a good outside receiver can excel in the slot, but not all good slot receivers will thrive outside. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. I thought Lazard was a slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Isn’t he still a candidate to be cut depending on the Rodgers contract? He’s probably 4th or 5th on the depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tooooon Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: Except I don't think JD sees him as a "reserve". JD has shown a penchant for faith/belief in "his guys" more than most might expect. Zach, still here, Davis, still here, Becton, seemingly the plan at OT, Mims, still here, etc. I won't be shocked if Davis is on the field as a starter with Wilson and Lazard week 1. Don’t agree JD is holding onto “his” guys for the sake of it. He didn’t draft Davis and many of his free agents are already gone. Also his draft picks: Moore, Zuniga, Perine, Morgan, Mann, Pinnock etc.. And holding on to first and 2nd round picks through their rookie contracts is common, not a JD specific thing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. Lazard, much like @T0mShaneis what we call a big slot 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. Good Lord - You are SUCH a Negative Nancy!!!! No wonder you live in your mother's basement ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, jgb said: As a starter, not much. But it'll be the first time in forever that non-Jets fans know the name of the Jets WR4 (5 if we draft a guy). He also has elite wheels and has a very good chance to be our returner IMHO. I'm somewhat excited for him as a returner. He'll play the gadget Berrios role on offense, which is fine. Need Rodgers to hit him in stride every once and a while and he can be useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Warfish said: Appreciate the insight. Lazard seems poorly aligned with your typical small and shifty slot guys, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll thrive there. Hackett seems to like the big slots. At least that’s how it appeared in GB when he had Lazard. So don't think Berrios as his preferred slot guy but more a Michael Thomas type of guy. My guess is Lazard plays the slot with Hardman coming for gadget plays where they run jet motion. Wilson will definitely be on the outside. Corey Davis also has experience playing the slot, but I think he’ll be the big outside WR. Unless we replace him. Which, for me, I would only want to upgrade him for Hopkins. No rookie please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Lazard has played 42.8% of his career snaps from the slot and Hackett certainly played him there when he was in GB, so you could definitely see him there next year (but who knows how the Jets will choose to use him). https://jetsxfactor.com/2023/03/17/ny-jets-allen-lazard-breakdown/#:~:text=For his career%2C Lazard lined,on 3.9% of his routes. Prior to coming here, Davis worked the slot about 25% of the time, too, scoring the majority of his TDs from there. It can be a strategic advantage to have him, Lazard, and Wilson in the huddle, with the defense not able to identify where they’ll they’ll line up prior to the snap. Both Lazard and Davis may also be better able to apply their blocking skills from that position. Jets also have a decent TE room, with Conklin and Uzomah both capable of playing inline or flanker. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Guy can blow the top off a defense with his elite speed. Defenses have to account for him as a deep threat This offense will have more guys running crossing routes and there will be a few more mesh concepts i believe. His speed plays very big there. and the ability to move him around the formation plays right into Hacketts plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who plays the slot? Wilson, Davis and Lazard are all outside type WR's. I truly hope the plan isn't to waste Wilson in the slot. Hardman is not a solution IMO, anymore than Berrios was. Mims, lol? This unit could still use some real help, hopefully JD finds a way in this draft. Hardman is speedy last time.i checked...*checks notes*...yes he would make a great slot wr. Also we probably move guys around...g Wilson can play slot so can Davis and lazard. You have to be pretty happy with the WR room honestly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tooooon said: Don’t agree JD is holding onto “his” guys for the sake of it. I don't think it's for the sake of it, I think it's because he believes in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Chrebetfan80 said: This offense will have more guys running crossing routes and there will be a few more mesh concepts i believe. His speed plays very big there. and the ability to move him around the formation plays right into Hacketts plans. Will also be nice to have a big boy offensive scheme that doesn't have to be "simplified" (read: dumbed down) by week 6 because the Jets QB du jour can't process it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Keep him. I see no reason to let Davis go unless we’re going to swing a trade for Hopkins. Right now the Jets have a good WR core and AR8 will bring out the best in all of them 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I thought Lazard was a slot? So it would seem. Sounds (reading this) that everyone will play slot, and everyone will play outside. Sounds alot like the MLF "everyone needs to know every position" thing, but maybe Hackett will run it better, and surely Rodgers will throw it better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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