BP Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Thank god. JFM was probably the dumbest player on the roster. And consistently committed stupid penalties to keep opposing teams drives alive. And yet brilliant defensive mastermind and idiot Saleh never held him accountable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Jdeet said: Obvious moves would be restructuring JFM’s contract, but with the likely signing of Clowney at a much lower than 16 mil cap hit from JFM, it makes sense that a cut would be likely. DJ Reed has hinted at something upcoming and an extension, lowering his cap hit, would make the most sense. He is approximately a 16 mil cap hit, as well. The Jets had 5.9 mil in cap space per spotrac BEFORE the Mike Williams and Solomon Thomas contracts and the 9 million or so, needed for our draft picks, moves need to be made. These are the obvious 2 players who have workable contracts. If JFM’s contract is restructured, that would be ok as well, but the likeliness of an outright cut, is more possible, as the days go by without a restructure. We will see. Is restructuring Quinnen Williams the most obvious option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Are you just, starting a rumor? Based on…nothing? Wtf is going on here? 2 hours ago, doitny said: you cant start a thread saying its a Rumor without some sort of proof to where you heard this from. you just click baited us. Right? All you have to say is, "my sources" and it's legitimate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: Right? All you have to say is, "my sources" and it's legitimate. My sources. Guy in my building. Something. (touché) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rochester Jets Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 What’s that? JFM just committed another roughing the passer penalty?!? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Jdeet said: Obvious moves would be restructuring JFM’s contract, but with the likely signing of Clowney at a much lower than 16 mil cap hit from JFM, it makes sense that a cut would be likely. DJ Reed has hinted at something upcoming and an extension, lowering his cap hit, would make the most sense. He is approximately a 16 mil cap hit, as well. The Jets had 5.9 mil in cap space per spotrac BEFORE the Mike Williams and Solomon Thomas contracts and the 9 million or so, needed for our draft picks, moves need to be made. These are the obvious 2 players who have workable contracts. If JFM’s contract is restructured, that would be ok as well, but the likeliness of an outright cut, is more possible, as the days go by without a restructure. We will see. Are you just summarizing what’s been posted here 23 times and now calling it a rumor giving your own opinion of why? Cool dude! Least you’re not yelling at us. Baby steps brother!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, ChewyandtheJets said: If I start a rumor that I banged a young Jessica Alba will it become as true as the subject of this post. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 41 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: Right? All you have to say is, "my sources" and it's legitimate. @football guy 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Are you implying that it would be any easier to get Jessica Alba now? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, slats said: I’ve been talking about this year being the year that JFM might get cut for awhile now. They fattened up Micheal Clemons to be the DT/DE hybrid, and then drafted McDonald. He has a $13.3M salary this year, with no guarantees. I’d been expecting this. If true, my guess would be that they’ve been working on him to take some sort of pay cut this whole time, and he’s been unwilling. Crappy time to hit the market. A restructure/extension for Reed makes a ton of sense. Lock him up (as it were), and get some solid cap savings this year in the process. What do you think of Clemons? I love the player and his whole style and aura but as a player he seems to me to be a bit of a JAG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 8 hours ago, JohnnyLV said: What do you think of Clemons? I love the player and his whole style and aura but as a player he seems to me to be a bit of a JAG I think beefing him up was a mistake, and slowed him down some last year. If they’re sticking with that plan, hopefully he’s better with that weight this year. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 20 minutes ago, slats said: I think beefing him up was a mistake, and slowed him down some last year. If they’re sticking with that plan, hopefully he’s better with that weight this year. They had him beef up and then still lined him up at end, which made no sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: They had him beef up and then still lined him up at end, which made no sense. Bingo....moved his position and his production dropped on the stat line. JFM is still a good player but they need to put him back on the inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 28 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: They had him beef up and then still lined him up at end, which made no sense. That’s JFM, though. DE on running downs, DT on passing downs. That’s what makes him valuable, being effective at both. Trying to manufacture another in Clemons made some sense -he is a huge dude- but in practice it hasn’t really panned out. Took away some of his juice on specials, too. Reminds me of when they fattened up Shaun Ellis and moved him inside. So hopefully either he’s better with a year of carrying that weight, or they abandon that experiment and work on making him the best DE he can be. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 56 minutes ago, slats said: I think beefing him up was a mistake, and slowed him down some last year. If they’re sticking with that plan, hopefully he’s better with that weight this year. Once he learns to play the play the game without seeing toes he will be fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Clemons is all bark and no bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, slats said: That’s JFM, though. DE on running downs, DT on passing downs. That’s what makes him valuable, being effective at both. Trying to manufacture another in Clemons made some sense -he is a huge dude- but in practice it hasn’t really panned out. Took away some of his juice on specials, too. Reminds me of when they fattened up Shaun Ellis and moved him inside. So hopefully either he’s better with a year of carrying that weight, or they abandon that experiment and work on making him the best DE he can be. I don't know what to make of his weight gain because they didn't use him inside after telling him to put that weight on. Those big end bodies playing inside snaps all went to Jefferson, Thomas, and JFM. Clemons seemed to exclusively line up wide all year. So again, it's just confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkwondo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I think people are forgetting we just signed Javon Kinlaw in addition to maybe Clowney being added ... Kinlaw contract is half of what they are paying JFM. Maybe the other half for Clowney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: Clemons is all bark and no bite. @Barry McCockinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkwondo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Instead of waiting to see if there's any truth to this rumor I looked up some interesting stats. Cutting JFM after letting Huff go will save roughly 34 million. Adding Kinlaw, will cost 7 million Clowney is looking for a high estimate of 9 million Estimate savings = 16 million Kinlaw is young and played injury free last year after an injury plagued NFL start. His stats are pretty similar to JFM's. He excelled in collapsing and disrupting the pocket. Clowney though older had stats that are almost identical to Huff's as far as sack #'s (9.5-10) but he was slightly better in tackle #'s and FF's. That's half the price for similar production in 2023. Based on that I wouldn't be surprised to see JFM let go if we sign Clowney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 They can’t afford to cut JFM. Restructure maybe. They need him on the DL. Kinlaw sucks and that is when he’s not injured, which isn’t very often. Clowney takes plays off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, bicketybam said: Clemons is all bark and no bite. I can't stand him. He produces nothing and is a punk. No I will NOT say any of this to his face. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Never understood that nonsense contract for JFM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Random thoughts from a random fan are not a rumor. Come on man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 hours ago, Jdeet said: Obvious moves would be restructuring JFM’s contract, but with the likely signing of Clowney at a much lower than 16 mil cap hit from JFM, it makes sense that a cut would be likely. DJ Reed has hinted at something upcoming and an extension, lowering his cap hit, would make the most sense. He is approximately a 16 mil cap hit, as well. The Jets had 5.9 mil in cap space per spotrac BEFORE the Mike Williams and Solomon Thomas contracts and the 9 million or so, needed for our draft picks, moves need to be made. These are the obvious 2 players who have workable contracts. If JFM’s contract is restructured, that would be ok as well, but the likeliness of an outright cut, is more possible, as the days go by without a restructure. We will see. So... "this" is Not a "rumor" just Your opinion ... got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat22 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 JFM must have value in a trade rather than cutting him. He will be scooped up right away if cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/20/2024 at 9:06 PM, Jdeet said: Obvious moves would be restructuring JFM’s contract, but with the likely signing of Clowney at a much lower than 16 mil cap hit from JFM, it makes sense that a cut would be likely. DJ Reed has hinted at something upcoming and an extension, lowering his cap hit, would make the most sense. He is approximately a 16 mil cap hit, as well. The Jets had 5.9 mil in cap space per spotrac BEFORE the Mike Williams and Solomon Thomas contracts and the 9 million or so, needed for our draft picks, moves need to be made. These are the obvious 2 players who have workable contracts. If JFM’s contract is restructured, that would be ok as well, but the likeliness of an outright cut, is more possible, as the days go by without a restructure. We will see. Where is this being rumored other than this thread? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: I don't know what to make of his weight gain because they didn't use him inside after telling him to put that weight on. Those big end bodies playing inside snaps all went to Jefferson, Thomas, and JFM. Clemons seemed to exclusively line up wide all year. So again, it's just confusing. #TheGreatJeffUlbrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, AFJF said: Where is this being rumored other than this thread? Nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexJet Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Instead of waiting to see if there's any truth to this rumor I looked up some interesting stats. Cutting JFM after letting Huff go will save roughly 34 million. Adding Kinlaw, will cost 7 million Clowney is looking for a high estimate of 9 million Estimate savings = 16 million Kinlaw is young and played injury free last year after an injury plagued NFL start. His stats are pretty similar to JFM's. He excelled in collapsing and disrupting the pocket. Clowney though older had stats that are almost identical to Huff's as far as sack #'s (9.5-10) but he was slightly better in tackle #'s and FF's. That's half the price for similar production in 2023. Based on that I wouldn't be surprised to see JFM let go if we sign Clowney. How many snaps did Clowney take vs JFM ? I'm interested in the % win rate.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/20/2024 at 8:07 PM, BP said: Thank god. JFM was probably the dumbest player on the roster. And consistently committed stupid penalties to keep opposing teams drives alive. And yet brilliant defensive mastermind and idiot Saleh never held him accountable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkwondo Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, Dunnie said: How many snaps did Clowney take vs JFM ? I'm interested in the % win rate. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Great question! Just dug these up... you can see Clowney and Huff kind of cancel each other as well as Kinlaw and JFM. I like JFM but I can understand if they trade him based on saving money Clowney - 654 snaps at 38.5 % TT- 43, Sacks- 9.5, PD-5, FF- 1, FR- 1 JFM - 627 snaps at 36.9 % TT- 33, Sacks- 3.5, PD-3, FF- 0, FR- 0 Huff - 480 snaps at 28.2 % TT-29, Sacks- 10, PD-1, FF-0, FR-0 Kinlaw - had 476 snaps at 28.0 % TT-25, Sacks- 3.5, PD-3, FF-0 FR-0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, AFJF said: Where is this being rumored other than this thread? I would like to apologize to the board for enjoying this thread way more than I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, Jetkwondo said: Great question! Just dug these up... you can see Clowney and Huff kind of cancel each other as well as Kinlaw and JFM. I like JFM but I can understand if they trade him based on saving money Clowney - 654 snaps at 38.5 % TT- 43, Sacks- 9.5, PD-5, FF- 1, FR- 1 JFM - 627 snaps at 36.9 % TT- 33, Sacks- 3.5, PD-3, FF- 0, FR- 0 Huff - 480 snaps at 28.2 % TT-29, Sacks- 10, PD-1, FF-0, FR-0 Kinlaw - had 476 snaps at 28.0 % TT-25, Sacks- 3.5, PD-3, FF-0 FR-0 Are those snap counts including running plays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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