Jetsfan80 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: FFS what difference does that make? He has hired people to run football operations, he wants to 'be in on everything' but he has almost zero pull. What douglas and saleh tell him they are doing he wags his tail. He hired Mike Maccagnan dude. He deserves every single bit of criticism he gets for that hire alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: Are you serious ? It's the Jets we're talking about. With our luck he'll turn into Tom Brady 2.0 . Just like Darnold did huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 LOL. You act like he was verbally and physically assaulted here. WTF is wrong with you.It's always been my stance that the situation he was brought into and the way he was handled was malpractice. Is this news to you ?Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Cry me a river. What exactly did he go through here? the kid just sucks at football and is mentally weak1. Rookie Head Coach (DC actually)2. Rookie OC 3. 1 WR4. 1 RB5. .5 TE6. Hackett7. Worst Offensive Line in Football...........Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Coaches, players yes. He’s been a distraction since he got to the team and hasn’t performed. He has zero value. He’s likely out of football if not for the Jets. Yet we’re letting him seek his desired trade spot? The whole thing has been rotten from the start. He cannot play NFL football. 5 million is ashtray money to woody. then why don't we just out right release him if Woody wants to continue paying him ? At this point are teams going to promise they dont step in front of us on an UDFA this spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, Dunnie said: 1. Rookie Head Coach (DC actually) 2. Rookie OC 3. 1 WR 4. 1 RB 5. .5 TE 6. Hackett 7. Worst Offensive Line in Football ... .... .... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk and every other QB that played other than Boyle (who sucked as well) out played him by a large margin so this excuse does not work at all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 16 minutes ago, Dunnie said: It's always been my stance that the situation he was brought into and the way he was handled was malpractice. Is this news to you ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk You still talkin this talk ? seriously ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 23 minutes ago, Dunnie said: 1. Rookie Head Coach (DC actually) 2. Rookie OC 3. 1 WR 4. 1 RB 5. .5 TE 6. Hackett 7. Worst Offensive Line in Football ... .... .... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Darnold had a far worse hc in Gase. Was throwing the ball to Lawrence cager and handing the ball off to 40 year old frank gore. in comparison ZW was put in a much better position to succeed 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 25 Popular Post Share Posted March 25 21 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Darnold had a far worse hc in Gase. Was throwing the ball to Lawrence cager and handing the ball off to 40 year old frank gore. in comparison ZW was put in a much better position to succeed The mistake was a rookie head coach and rookie offensive coordinator thinking they could install a new program, change the culture, AND develop a rookie QB at the same time. In retrospect, holding onto Darnold for another year would’ve been the right move. A couple folks even mentioned that here in real time, but that was back when Sam Darnold was the most evil being to ever pretend to play QB and it fell on deaf ears. Not saying Darnold would’ve been successful, but the Jets would’ve been much better off getting value out of that #2 pick -and doing all those other new regime things- and then dealing with the QB position the following year. Pick your flavor, but Ja’Marr Chase or the SF trade down deal would’ve been pretty sweet. Not gonna lie, I pity these teams picking QBs 1-2-3 this year, because -historically speaking- 1, 2, or 3 of them are gonna regret it. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: and every other QB that played other than Boyle (who sucked as well) out played him by a large margin so this excuse does not work at all There is an argument Zack outplayed Rodgers. He had a higher completion rate and didn't tear an ACL after just one sack? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Per PFT: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/source-jets-have-gotten-trade-offers-for-zach-wilson Frankly, clearing up 5.5M in cap space currently being spent on a third string QB is a more important outcome than getting a 6th rd pick instead of a conditional seventh. Unless someone is insisting they eat the contract anyway (which the acquiring team would need to pay for with better comp), they need to just take the best available offer and move on Woody is a boob . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: 1. Rookie Head Coach (DC actually) 2. Rookie OC 3. 1 WR 4. 1 RB 5. .5 TE 6. Hackett 7. Worst Offensive Line in Football ... .... .... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk The supporting cast they gave Wilson was MUCH better than what they gave Sam Darnold, and Darnold flashed a lot more than Wilson did (and was able to fetch a 2 in a trade) I wish the league thought Wilson was a victim, but unfortunately it doesn’t look that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 They are just waiting for him to clear concussion protocol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Darnold had a far worse hc in Gase. Was throwing the ball to Lawrence cager and handing the ball off to 40 year old frank gore. in comparison ZW was put in a much better position to succeed You are saying Gase was a worse offensive coach than Saleh ???Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: You are saying Gase was a worse offensive coach than Saleh ??? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk MLF >>>>>> Gase > Hackett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 9 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Per PFT: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/source-jets-have-gotten-trade-offers-for-zach-wilson Frankly, clearing up 5.5M in cap space currently being spent on a third string QB is a more important outcome than getting a 6th rd pick instead of a conditional seventh. Unless someone is insisting they eat the contract anyway (which the acquiring team would need to pay for with better comp), they need to just take the best available offer and move on What if the best offer is “take our 6th in 2025 but also pay $4 mil to Wilson while giving back a 7th this year”? Can’t say one way or other what’s being declined. Pretty sure Jets want him gone even for a 6th but there could be other strings attached. I’m not buying the Woody speculations. He took a dump on Wilson without even hesitating. He’s not doing anything to keep Wilson in NY. Unless he’s insisting on paying and keeping Wilson at $5mil as opposed to sending him away by paying $4mil. Just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 hours ago, Thai Jet said: Are you serious ? It's the Jets we're talking about. With our luck he'll turn into Tom Brady 2.0 . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 hours ago, SickJetFan said: They are just waiting for him to clear concussion protocol Dehydration sometimes takes years to cure 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 8 hours ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Darnold had a far worse hc in Gase. Was throwing the ball to Lawrence cager and handing the ball off to 40 year old frank gore. in comparison ZW was put in a much better position to succeed Gase had to draw up plays for Jeff Smith 🤣 That’s how bad Mike Maccagnan was at drafting and team-building In Gase’s pseudo-defense, he’s the only coach in NFL history to squeeze production out of Denzel Mims 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouserJet Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Creating a false market for Zack is either genius-like or idiot-like. At this stage, I want him off the books, but drumming up interest to eat more salary could be a genius approach. It could also really suck and we pay $5m for a 3rd Choice QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Not enough footballs in the bag?Wouldn't go XL on the Big Mac Meal?Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 minutes ago, jamesr said: Not enough footballs in the bag? Wouldn't go XL on the Big Mac Meal? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Douglas said Monday that there have been "some discussions" with teams, but "nothing is close" to being done. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39808338/owner-woody-johnson-vows-jets-keep-qb-zach-wilson-no-trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, C Mart said: Douglas said Monday that there have been "some discussions" with teams, but "nothing is close" to being done. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39808338/owner-woody-johnson-vows-jets-keep-qb-zach-wilson-no-trade That's what we call blowing smoke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 hours ago, Dunnie said: It's always been my stance that the situation he was brought into and the way he was handled was malpractice. Is this news to you ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 16 hours ago, Dunnie said: 1. Rookie Head Coach (DC actually) 2. Rookie OC 3. 1 WR 4. 1 RB 5. .5 TE 6. Hackett 7. Worst Offensive Line in Football ... .... .... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) @WarfishYour new sig still has me laughing ... and crying. Edited March 26 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 22 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Per PFT: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/source-jets-have-gotten-trade-offers-for-zach-wilson Frankly, clearing up 5.5M in cap space currently being spent on a third string QB is a more important outcome than getting a 6th rd pick instead of a conditional seventh. Unless someone is insisting they eat the contract anyway (which the acquiring team would need to pay for with better comp), they need to just take the best available offer and move on 49ers: give us Sauce and Garrett Wilson and we will take Zach and his $11.1 million cap hit off your hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 13 hours ago, Jet2020 said: What if the best offer is “take our 6th in 2025 but also pay $4 mil to Wilson while giving back a 7th this year”? Can’t say one way or other what’s being declined. Pretty sure Jets want him gone even for a 6th but there could be other strings attached. I’m not buying the Woody speculations. He took a dump on Wilson without even hesitating. He’s not doing anything to keep Wilson in NY. Unless he’s insisting on paying and keeping Wilson at $5mil as opposed to sending him away by paying $4mil. Just throwing it out there. There was no offer the story is bs. Probably planted by the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Rich Thornburgh said: There was no offer the story is bs. Probably planted by the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, bicketybam said: What should we do with the 2nd round pick we are getting for Mahomes 2.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, Rich Thornburgh said: What should we do with the 2nd round pick we are getting for Mahomes 2.0? You should trade it in for a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 45 minutes ago, bicketybam said: That's what we call blowing smoke. We also call that a good start to a morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 18 hours ago, southparkcpa said: I said he had 1 good draft, (i.e he drafts poorly) I didn't say anything about FA's, cap management etc. But since you mentioned it.... His FA signings are tarnished by his FA busts and I would add if he had just average drafts, the FA issue would be secondary, not primary. The FA's he brought in to play with AR8 have sucked. AR8 has blown up in his face. But if we are going to mention abstract things about JD, I bet he wore a polyester suit to his wedding. Fair enough, I assumed the "assess his skills" thing was regarding his entire body of work... his drafting definitely makes me nervous. He's 1 more dog sh*t OL choice away from me being permanently out on him. I will defend JD on one thing with free agents. Once again, he has missed on some FAs like any GM, but almost every contract has had an easy out for the Jets after 1 or 2 years. The only Rodgers-buddy signing that has legitimately bitten us in the ass is Lazard, which was admittedly horrible (easily JDs worst ever free agency move). Either way, either he'll be gone next year or the moves he's made will work. At least we have that reassurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: There was no offer the story is bs. Probably planted by the jets That would make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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