Coward: AR is an immobile and expensive older QB

[Bronx]

 

 

[BreeceHallofFame]

He is a cheap immobile QB with elite skills 

[BurntDice]

Why didn’t they go at Brady like this when he was on the Bucs?

[nj meadowlands]

Just now, BurntDice said:

Why didn’t they go at Brady like this when he was on the Bucs?

Cuz he threw 83 TDs in 2 years and won a Super Bowl lol

[Rhg1084]

Expensive? He’s like the 15th in QB salary lol what’s this guy even talking about 

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, BurntDice said:

Why didn’t they go at Brady like this when he was on the Bucs?

Covid

[Barry McCockinner]

He's in the bottom half of the league in per year salary and he's not a bottom half of the league QB.

[extmenace]

When Colin cowerd has a take that criticizes your team or a player, expect the opposite. This guy is never right. 

[slimjasi]

Coward 

[UntouchableCrew]

He's not really expensive.

He's def older and relatively immobile.

[JetsMan57]

I just put on the start of his show. He is gushing over the slow, immobile, expensive Kirk Cousins. Real consistent.

Cowherd has always had a personal thing against Rodgers.

[The Crusher]

13 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

 

Coward? Well done!! haha

[Larz]

Former NFLQB

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

He 🤡 once called Jet fans stupid for failing to see that Adam Gase was a "great hire".

"Adam Gase is Sean McVay before Sean McVay."

😂😂😂

[Larz]

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

4 minutes ago, Larz said:

Former NFLQB

Lamar hasn't been great, even if it's not his fault.

The Ravens' OL looks dreadful in pass pro.

They're probably wishing they hadn't dealt Morgan Moses.

The RT got absolutely torched by Maxx Crosby (guess this is the case for most RTs, but this was ugly).

[sciond]

20 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

 

umm yeah so?

Coward figured that out on his own?

This is just groundbreaking news....

[FidelioJet]

He's not wrong here.

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

He's not wrong here.

No he isn't, but as old as Rodgers is he's still light years better than anything we had last 3 years. Plus 15th highest QB is expensive? Like you, he tries a little too hard. 

[rangerous]

21 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

 

so just what are russell wilson, stafford, cousins for the older guys.  and then there are guys like danny dimes, trevor lawrence, herbert and goff for the younger guys.  they are all making more than rodgers and doing less.  as for mobility, it's more about wanting to stay in the pocket as opposed to actually taking off running.  rodgers can run.  not as mobile as he used to be but still not so bad if the opportunity presents itself.

[Claymation]

26 minutes ago, Bronx said:

 

 

This is the same guy who thought Quinten Nelson was a mid western IOL, when in fact he lived and went to school 15 minutes from the beach. But you do you Colin.

[Claymation]

7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He's not wrong here.

He's not right either.

Rodgers is the smartest QB in the league.

[Bronx]

34 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

He's in the bottom half of the league in per year salary and he's not a bottom half of the league QB.

[August]

Rodgers so far looks like Matt Ryan during his last year in ATL. 

[Green Ghost]

25 minutes ago, Larz said:

Former NFLQB

Kurt Benkert? THE Kurt Bemkert? 😂 GTFOH with this nonsense.

Aaron Rodgers is the 18th ranked in QBR which is based on actual stats, not that those matter or anything, amirite @Larz?

[Rich Thornburgh]

Same could be said about Tom Brady last 10 years so what?

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, August said:

Rodgers so far looks like Matt Ryan during his last year in ATL. 

Ryan was not making that over the shoulder throw that Rodgers made. Ryan had nothing left in his arm. Also the quick pass to Lazard on 3rd down- legit pass. Rodgers played well in the second half. The Jets were banking on their defense forcing 3 and outs, which have been a let down so far. The offense runs through Breece

[Origen]

46 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He is a cheap immobile QB with elite skills 

Isn't he making like $104M or is that just the cap hit?

[August]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Ryan was not making that over the shoulder throw that Rodgers made. Ryan had nothing left in his arm. Also the quick pass to Lazard on 3rd down- legit pass. Rodgers played well in the second half. The Jets were banking on their defense forcing 3 and outs, which have been a let down so far. The offense runs through Breece

He was still making good throws. Ryan was just immobile and slow on his feet. Similar to Rodgers today. 

[southparkcpa]

33 minutes ago, Larz said:

Former NFLQB

10 of those QB's at quick glance were available to the Jets via draft and we of course were set at QB  

 

[Green Ghost]

Every hope that this team ends the season as the top 3 or 4 team so many fans thought they might is based on the belief that Rodgers and the offense “gels” as the season moves along while presuming other QBs and their teams won’t do the same.

 

[bicketybam]

Does anyone have the formula for QBR? Asking for a friend.

[Bronx]

Restricted primarily to the pocket

These QBs aren’t necessarily incapable of beating defenses with their legs, although they almost always use their feet to buy time and throw instead of scrambling.

• Aaron Rodgers: The long-time Packers QB was one of the league’s more underrated rushing QBs for a good portion of the 2010s, but his average of 11.4 rushing yards per game in 2019 was easily a career low. The Packers drafted Rodgers in 2005 when Brett Favre was entering his 15th season and was 36 years old. 2020 will be Rodgers’ 16th season and he’s currently 36 years old.
• Matt Ryan: A late-season ankle injury didn’t help Ryan’s mobility at the end of 2019, but either way we’re talking about a QB that’s never averaged even 10 rushing yards per game. Ryan has never been confused with someone who creates magic off script, but he’s also not devoid of moving in and out of the pocket when healthy.
• Sam Darnold: Perhaps the hoopla from the entire mono situation impacted Darnold’s willingness to run, as he averaged fewer than half as many rushing yards per game in 2019 (4.8) as he did in 2018 (10.6). There’s always been a fun-playground nature to Darnold’s game; he’s just not all that great of an athlete or productive runner.
• Kirk Cousins: The eight-year veteran ran for at least four touchdowns in each of his three seasons as a full-time starter in Washington, but Cousins has found the end zone on the ground just twice in 31 games with the Vikings. He was one of just 10 QBs to scramble on fewer than 10% of their dropbacks in 2019.
• Baker Mayfield: The much-maligned former No. 1 overall pick has averaged a stellar 9.1 rush yards per game with three scores on the ground over the past two seasons. Still, Mayfield struggled to replicate the sort of broken-play magic that we saw so consistently during his rookie season, as he limped to below-average marks in most metrics denoting performance under pressure.
• Derek Carr: The Raiders’ franchise QB has averaged 5.3 rushing yards per game after six seasons under center. Carr’s general reluctance to both throw in the face of pressure and/or test defenses downfield hasn’t gone hand-in-hand with many moments showcasing his theoretical mobility.
• Matthew Stafford: A broken back certainly won’t help matters for Stafford as he continues to progress through his 30s. He’s averaged double-digit rushing yards per game just once over the past 10 seasons, regularly taking his chances with dump offs or downfield prayers as opposed to scrambling.
• Dwayne Haskins: Stephen A. Smith might say otherwise, but Haskins has never made a habit of winning with his legs. While he picked up seven first downs on 20 rushing attempts in 2019 and isn’t completely immobile, it’s hard to be too complimentary of a man that failed to run 40 yards in under five seconds.
• Ben Roethlisberger: Big Ben is perhaps best known for his ability to stand tall in the pocket and deliver the pass despite taking any number of hits from nearby defenders. He’s never quite been a true rushing threat, but 19 rushing scores over the years, along with an endless supply of off-script highlights, makes it hard to call the man a sitting duck in the pocket.

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These QBs are both immobile and reluctant to leave the pocket, making them sitting targets if the ball doesn’t come out quickly.

• Tom Brady: The GOAT finally topped 1,000 career rushing yards in 2019 and remains one of the best QB sneakers to ever suit up. Of course, Brady has never won due to his athleticism, and it was more of an issue than ever last season. He scrambled on just 3-of-632 (0.5%) dropbacks, and his average of 4.1 yards per pressured attempt was higher than only Mason Rudolph (3.7) among 35 qualified QBs. Nobody had more throwaways than Brady (40) in 2019.
• Philip Rivers: Rivers is another QB on this list who never exactly made a living with his legs, but things also haven’t gotten any better in recent seasons. The man hasn’t scored a rushing touchdown since 2011. The good news? The Colts offensive line is full of world-beating talents.
• Drew Brees: 390 dropbacks in 2019 ... and Brees didn’t scramble once. Sure, the 41-year-old QB still looks elusive in the pocket at times and remains a threat to leap over the top from the one-yard line, but he’s totaled 64 rushing yards in 73 games since 2015.
• Jared Goff: The four-year veteran is averaging four rush yards per game through 54 starts. Goff has literally never gained more than 25 rushing yards in a game. His performance in 2019 tanked after the Rams failed to surround him with an elite offensive line.
• Jimmy Garoppolo: Perhaps things will change in 2020 when Jimmy G is a full season removed from knee surgery. Still, it’s tough to ever see him resemble a dual-threat talent considering he’s averaged 2.8 yards rush per game since 2014. It’s painfully obvious at times that Garoppolo’s inability to make anything happen outside of the pocket is the one key factor holding back this offense.
• Nick Foles: The Super Bowl hero has totaled zero rushing yards in six career postseason starts. Foles hasn’t made a habit of using his legs since that one weird 2013 campaign with Chip Kelly and company. His inability to escape pressure is worrisome behind the Bears’ shoddy offensive line.
• Teddy Bridgewater: The five-year veteran has posted a miserable 39-36-0 rushing line over the past two seasons with the Saints. Bridgewater’s tendency to unload the ball as quickly as possible doesn’t really lend itself to many scramble attempts or opportunities for off-script goodness.

 

 

[Origen]

31 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Lamar hasn't been great, even if it's not his fault.

The Ravens' OL looks dreadful in pass pro.

They're probably wishing they hadn't dealt Morgan Moses.

The RT got absolutely torched by Maxx Crosby (guess this is the case for most RTs, but this was ugly).

Moses in the first half was nothing to write home about.  He was flying through the air a few times and looked to be on skates the rest.  Glad the 2nd half was better but they were pretty rough to start off.  Rodgers' quick draw is what's saving us right now.

[RutgersJetFan]

51 minutes ago, BurntDice said:

Why didn’t they go at Brady like this when he was on the Bucs?

gee i wonder