CTM Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I believe it was Sudfield wide open down the sideline. Jets driving to go up 28-9. Geno gets hit as he throws, releases a flutter ball and instead of 1st and goal or a TD, it' Packers ball w/all the momentum against a tired defense. And the crowd is back into it. Said it at the time it happened, but that was the shot they never recovered from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 winters got beat by an up and under for the 17th time he's garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 agreed, even posted this a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Agree 100%....Sudfeld sucks though he's 6-7 he's gotta at least break that up he didn't compete at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Agree 100%....Sudfeld sucks though he's 6-7 he's gotta at least break that up he didn't compete at all Yeah, he should've made more of an effort.. Decker too has a bad habit of waiting for the ball to get to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Absolutely...that was where the game was truly lost. Even if they kick a FG there, they win the game. For all the bad calls/non-calls and miscues, that single play was the turning point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Winters is so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 That play cpletely changed the momentum when we had our foot on their throat. Idiotic call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 That play cpletely changed the momentum when we had our foot on their throat. Idiotic call I wouldn't say the play-calling was idiotic. The receiver was wide open and a clean throw is likely a TD. The hit on Geno is what ruined the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yep, it was a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 winters had two plays where the packer he was supposed to be blocking walked right by him and slammed into geno. costly and unimpressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I believe it was Sudfield wide open down the sideline. Jets driving to go up 28-9. Geno gets hit as he throws, releases a flutter ball and instead of 1st and goal or a TD, it' Packers ball w/all the momentum against a tired defense. And the crowd is back into it. Said it at the time it happened, but that was the shot they never recovered from. Yeah but if the D doesn't go into prevent and let Packers march 97 yards in 90 seconds...... Woulda, coulda, shoulda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Winters is so bad Idzik should manage the cap and someone else should manage the draft. 20 picks in 2 seasons and I see a lot of very average players . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I believe it was Sudfield wide open down the sideline. Jets driving to go up 28-9. Geno gets hit as he throws, releases a flutter ball and instead of 1st and goal or a TD, it' Packers ball w/all the momentum against a tired defense. And the crowd is back into it. Said it at the time it happened, but that was the shot they never recovered from. Disagree completely. Interceptions happen sometimes. What's not supposed to happen is a Top 5 NFL Rex Ryan Defense letting the Packers go 97 yards in 1:45 to effectively win the game. We are not built to win games 34-31. Ground-And-Pound and a Dominant Defense, remember? If a team is built to win on controlling the ball on the ground and shutting down opposing offenses, a 21-3 lead should stick like glue. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I think the game was basically lost when the defense let Rodgers and co. march 97 yards down the field in a minute and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I wouldn't say the play-calling was idiotic. The receiver was wide open and a clean throw is likely a TD. The hit on Geno is what ruined the play. Under the circumstances you pretty much have 3 points and maybe 7, plus you can kill the clock. At that point you can go in up by either 15 or 19 points plus the ball to start the 2nd half. If you really must throw it down the sideline, Sudfeld should not be the receiver. It was a major turning point, although allowing the Pack to go 97 yards didn't help things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The int is bad but you can't let them go. 97 yards ! I hear how we are a top 5 def . Top 5 def stop them when it counts !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Momentum had already been lost by that point, as the Jets O had stalled, and the Pack had scored three times in a row unanswered. The D needed in that spot to pick up their guy and hold. They failed, badly, and allowed a VERY long drive for a TD. Turnover Geno remains a problem, but this INT was a tough one, hit mid-throw the way he was (snapped in half). The O was horrible in the second half, no excuses, but the D (and especially the pass D, i.e. D-backs) were attrocious, as expected, and Discount Doublecheck torched us as an All-Pro QB can. Their QB was better (vs. our D-backs) than our D-line (vs. their O-Line), and so we lost. Really that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The secondary is a problem. Not sure how we fix it...but we need to figure that out. If not REx is a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Disagree completely. Interceptions happen sometimes. What's not supposed to happen is a Top 5 NFL Rex Ryan Defense letting the Packers go 97 yards in 1:45 to effectively win the game. We are not built to win games 34-31. Ground-And-Pound and a Dominant Defense, remember? If a team is built to win on controlling the ball on the ground and shutting down opposing offenses, a 21-3 lead should stick like glue. SAR I Everyone knew going into this game it was all about Rodgers/GB WR's vs. the Jets secondary. There was an obvious mismatch and it showed. Nobody expected that to be different. The offense needed to keep sustaining drives and coming away with points. After that fast start they couldnt move the ball. That was the difference. Cant expect to shut down Aaron Rodgers with 10 days to prepare for his home opener after getting throttled on opening night. Rodgers is just the type of QB to expose the Jets weaknesses on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If that touchdown had counted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Don't forget geno. I think he was 10-13 for 103 first half second half he was 6 -19 for about 70 yards can't win with qb play like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Disagree completely. Interceptions happen sometimes. What's not supposed to happen is a Top 5 NFL Rex Ryan Defense letting the Packers go 97 yards in 1:45 to effectively win the game. We are not built to win games 34-31. Ground-And-Pound and a Dominant Defense, remember? If a team is built to win on controlling the ball on the ground and shutting down opposing offenses, a 21-3 lead should stick like glue. SAR I Thank you. They went 97 YARDS!!! Our defense should have been able to shut them down. It was not momentum, it was rotten defense. If they had intercepted on our 20 I might be inclined to agree, but they did not. Their field position was atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I believe it was Sudfield wide open down the sideline. Jets driving to go up 28-9. Geno gets hit as he throws, releases a flutter ball and instead of 1st and goal or a TD, it' Packers ball w/all the momentum against a tired defense. And the crowd is back into it. Said it at the time it happened, but that was the shot they never recovered from. If Geno got that throw off the ball would have hit Sudfeld in the back corner. It lost a LOT of velocity and Sud had his guy beat by a few steps, that's why the defender was in great position to catch the flutter ball and Sud wasn't close enough to disrupt it. That being said. The defense allowed the 97 yard drive before the half, not Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Everyone knew going into this game it was all about Rodgers/GB WR's vs. the Jets secondary. There was an obvious mismatch and it showed. Nobody expected that to be different. The offense needed to keep sustaining drives and coming away with points. After that fast start they couldnt move the ball. That was the difference. Cant expect to shut down Aaron Rodgers with 10 days to prepare for his home opener after getting throttled on opening night. Rodgers is just the type of QB to expose the Jets weaknesses on D. Agree with everything you say, but that was my point of view before the game. Once we made some nice plays and took advantage of circumstances and built a 21-3 lead nearing the half, the expectations changed. The areas of supposed strength (ground game, front seven, coaching) should have had enough cushion with that score to make it stick. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 GB just showed the Bears and everyone we play how to beat us Stop the run so we have to win with Geno ...rattle him a few times and then mistakes start happen Spread the jet defense and go no huddle Gonna be a long season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Prevent Defense, it amazes me how a team coached by Rex the fiery defensive genius who everyone wants to play for consistently lacks a killer instinct….Rodgers looked like he was out there vs. the University of Idaho on that 2 minute drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 GB just showed the Bears and everyone we play how to beat us Stop the run so we have to win with Geno ...rattle him a few times and then mistakes start happen Spread the jet defense and go no huddle Gonna be a long season No huddle, spread offense has been how to beat Rex's D all along. Nothing new was learned today, teams already know this, the key for them is to solve pass protection vs. Rex, all they need to do is buy the QB an extra fraction of a second, and they pick Rex D's apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Prevent Defense, it amazes me how a team coached by Rex the fiery defensive genius who everyone wants to play for consistently lacks a killer instinct….Rodgers looked like he was out there vs. the University of Idaho on that 2 minute drive. When it was 21-3 I turned to my wife, who looked happy for me, and said "Rex is afraid of having a lead, he's going to go conservative and they are going to **** this up completely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 When it was 21-3 I turned to my wife, who looked happy for me, and said "Rex is afraid of having a lead, he's going to go conservative and they are going to **** this up completely." At no point was I confident, matter of fact, as the lead grew the more nervous I became. Such a piss poor performance, so disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 When it was 21-3 I turned to my wife, who looked happy for me, and said "Rex is afraid of having a lead, he's going to go conservative and they are going to **** this up completely." 100% agree. Ugh....I know the Jets weren't supposed to win but this one hurts. Just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Disagree completely. Interceptions happen sometimes. What's not supposed to happen is a Top 5 NFL Rex Ryan Defense letting the Packers go 97 yards in 1:45 to effectively win the game. We are not built to win games 34-31. Ground-And-Pound and a Dominant Defense, remember? If a team is built to win on controlling the ball on the ground and shutting down opposing offenses, a 21-3 lead should stick like glue. SAR I Meh, thats one of the best QB's in football, at home, and just got a huge shot of momentum. Seattle's defense is all the rage lately, how'd they do against Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Sudfield should be ashamed that at 6'7" he allowed a midget player to intercept the ball right in front of him. I would cut his ass tomorrow. But then again who are our two other TE's. Didn't hear much from them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 the lack of running game definitly hurt. thought when we were up by a good margin Wed run it down their throats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 But wait.... I read on this very forum by lots of super smartz peoplez that it was the refs who cost us the game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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