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Santonio May Miss SEASON


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He was asked if he might miss the entire season.  He replied, I really can't answer that right now.

 

He doesn't know.  They don't know.  So yes, it is possible.  Just makes it strange that they waited so long to resign Braylon. 

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I wouldnt be surprised in his career is over.  He isnt Peyton Manning, who can sit out a year and come back and perform like he never left. 

 

Plus this is a foot injury, if his foot hampers his ability to run, he lost his advantage. 

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He was asked if he might miss the entire season.  He replied, I really can't answer that right now.

 

He doesn't know.  They don't know.  So yes, it is possible.  Just makes it strange that they waited so long to resign Braylon. 

 

I think it's pretty clear at this point that they were trying like hell to find anyone BUT Braylon to bring in, but they couldn't come up with anyone better.  Idzik hardly has the greatest history with the guy and the only QB Braylon has actually played well with in recent years (Sanchez) isn't the guy the Jets are ultimately worried about helping out.

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A quick look at Wiki (my source for all medical information)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisfranc_injury

 

Shows that there are only 3-classifications of lisfranc injury.  So right off the bat, he's fibbin about the extent of his injury. 

On top of that, he is either lying about the pain, a ridiculously slow healer, or has done something stupid to re-injure himself.  I just don't understand how a professional training staff has been unable to determine a better time-table for his return.  I mean, he's at camp.  Rex said they moved all of his treatment equipment to Cortland, and now there's a possibility that he misses the whole season?!

 

Maybe he's smoking the pot, and is able to slide under testing protocol by being on injury watch. 

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A quick look at Wiki (my source for all medical information)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisfranc_injury

 

Shows that there are only 3-classifications of lisfranc injury.  So right off the bat, he's fibbin about the extent of his injury. 

On top of that, he is either lying about the pain, a ridiculously slow healer, or has done something stupid to re-injure himself.  I just don't understand how a professional training staff has been unable to determine a better time-table for his return.  I mean, he's at camp.  Rex said they moved all of his treatment equipment to Cortland, and now there's a possibility that he misses the whole season?!

 

Maybe he's smoking the pot, and is able to slide under testing protocol by being on injury watch. 

I believe it was pretty widely reported that he has the most severe case of Lisfranc?

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Right, a grade-4. 

 

Wiki says there are only 3 grades.  I smell fish.

Classifications =/= grades

The classifications in the article describe three different ways the area can be damaged, but each of those can have varying degrees of damage. Lisfranc injuries can be career ending.

If it'll help, though, I can always edit the page for you.

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A quick look at Wiki (my source for all medical information)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisfranc_injury

 

Shows that there are only 3-classifications of lisfranc injury.  So right off the bat, he's fibbin about the extent of his injury. 

On top of that, he is either lying about the pain, a ridiculously slow healer, or has done something stupid to re-injure himself.  I just don't understand how a professional training staff has been unable to determine a better time-table for his return.  I mean, he's at camp.  Rex said they moved all of his treatment equipment to Cortland, and now there's a possibility that he misses the whole season?!

 

Maybe he's smoking the pot, and is able to slide under testing protocol by being on injury watch. 

 

As with any sports injury, there are many different classification systems, especially when dealing with the foot or hand.  Some people may only use a grade 1-3 and others may use a 4 to delineate even further between different severity of type III sprains.  There are some orthos who will say a grade III is a complete disruption of the ligament with join instability and then use IV to say a complete disruption of the ligament with fixed joint subluxation.  Since these are most likely foot specialists, I'm sure they are using the more extensive classification system and I doubt Holmes is doing anything but parroting the information back to the reporters; ie. if they told him he had a grade mango sprain, he'd be saying he has a grade mango sprain and is out until whenever.  

 

He is most likely saying the full season so as to set expectations low, rather than miss the timetable and then have every fan calling for heads because he wasn't back in the amount of time he stated. Foot injuries are insanely complex and debilitating, I doubt he's just slacking off.

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Right, a grade-4. 

 

Wiki says there are only 3 grades.  I smell fish. 

 

Meh, I'd hardly rely on wikipedia as the premier source for evaluating medical diagnoses.  Not even defending Holmes, but I'd imagine someone would have sniffed that out a little sooner if it were bogus.

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Classifications =/= grades

The classifications in the article describe three different ways the area can be damaged, but each of those can have varying degrees of damage. Lisfranc injuries can be career ending.

If it'll help, though, I can always edit the page for you.

 

I appreciate the offer...and perhaps I should have played up the Wiki-sarcasm a bit more.  

 

I guess I'm disturbed that our team's "greatest offensive weapon", playing the world's greatest sport, with access to the best medical treatment in the world, still can't provide a realistic time-table for his return.  This in light, of a pending Revis comeback, and RGIII "smashing" all of his medical tests, and Gronk's semi-monthly surgery (I know, we're comparing apples and oranges).  But you have to wonder why this news is just coming out today.  

 

As with any sports injury, there are many different classification systems, especially when dealing with the foot or hand.  Some people may only use a grade 1-3 and others may use a 4 to delineate even further between different severity of type III sprains.  There are some orthos who will say a grade III is a complete disruption of the ligament with join instability and then use IV to say a complete disruption of the ligament with fixed joint subluxation.  Since these are most likely foot specialists, I'm sure they are using the more extensive classification system and I doubt Holmes is doing anything but parroting the information back to the reporters; ie. if they told him he had a grade mango sprain, he'd be saying he has a grade mango sprain and is out until whenever.  

 

He is most likely saying the full season so as to set expectations low, rather than miss the timetable and then have every fan calling for heads because he wasn't back in the amount of time he stated. Foot injuries are insanely complex and debilitating, I doubt he's just slacking off.

 

No, he's not.  Rex even singled him out as being a great presence for the team and praised him for remaining in great shape.  I just think it's a bit late in the game to be offering (extremely) conservative time-tables at this point in the process. 

 

This is news we should have received last October.  Instead we were optimistic about a return by training camp.  Then it was, "hopefully by week-1".  Now it is, "Maybe not this year".  Horrible under-reporting, if you ask me. 

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Meh, I'd hardly rely on wikipedia as the premier source for evaluating medical diagnoses.  Not even defending Holmes, but I'd imagine someone would have sniffed that out a little sooner if it were bogus.

 

:)

 

I don't.   Just playing off the idea that perhaps players on PUP or IR can get away with old habits. 

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Isn't this what most fans wanted? I mean, they wanted him off the team entirely.  So this is the best of both worlds.  He doesn't play, so no locker room nonsense.  On the other hand, he's around to help coach the younger WRs, which he apparently does and does well from reports.  The cancer stuff seemed to coincide with the number - or lack of the number - of footballs thrown his way (or the quality of footballs thrown his way, or plays called, or whatever that he interpreted as factors getting in the way of his awesomeness on the field).  Well that's wiped out now.

 

So is everybody happy now?

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Isn't this what most fans wanted? I mean, they wanted him off the team entirely.  So this is the best of both worlds.  He doesn't play, so no locker room nonsense.  On the other hand, he's around to help coach the younger WRs, which he apparently does and does well from reports.  The cancer stuff seemed to coincide with the number - or lack of the number - of footballs thrown his way (or the quality of footballs thrown his way, or plays called, or whatever that he interpreted as factors getting in the way of his awesomeness on the field).  Well that's wiped out now.

 

So is everybody happy now?

 

I can't speak for others, but my biggest gripe with Santonio was that his contract doesn't match his production.  Another poster had mentioned that if he gets placed on IR his contract monies no longer affect the cap.  Do you know anything about this?

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