FloridaJetsFan Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 How is losing one of the worst ranked CBs in the entirety of the NFL going backwards? Seriously, besides your incessant need to complain, explain how this is such a bad thing? This. Dee Miliner was ranked 30 players higher than Cro in the CB stats - 30!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 this registered an 11 on the racist meter. What?!?!? That's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good luck Antonio. Hope you don;t turn gay like Kerry did in Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good luck Antonio. Hope you don;t turn gay like Kerry did in Arizona. Well, with the dry heat there is less likelihood of swamp-ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This. Dee Miliner was ranked 30 players higher than Cro in the CB stats - 30!!!! I believe Walls and Lankster were higher as well. Cro gave us a number of good years, was a great teammate and Jet throughout his tenure. However, he was not going to be back on anything more than a one year deal due to that hip and if that's the case, I'd rather give Walls the opportunity to compete against a rookie to start. I feel as though I liked enough of what I saw last year to give him the chance to earn that spot, even if he does lose out to a rookie or vet like Rogers or Samuel on a one year deal. I think Idzik has it right: fill as many positions as possible with young players who will be with the team for a long-period of time and then plug in one year stop-gaps where you fail to do the former. For all we know, the team could be very high on their group of CBs and without knowing their thinking, it's extremely shortsighted to think they're just asleep behind the wheel. Just becuase we don't know their plan, it's foolish to assume they don't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good luck Antonio. Hope you don;t turn gay like Kerry did in Arizona. Not that there's anything wrong with that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Not that there's anything wrong with that ... Could be a pretty good financial decision considering Cro's hyper-virility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good luck Antonio. Hope you don;t turn gay like Kerry did in Arizona. LOL You're like thread mouthwash. After three pages, I feel sparkly clean again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The NFL is a business. Thanks Cro for being a Jet. The guy earned a lot of respect here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 What?!?!? That's dumb. Read it again and pretend this is next to it: It wasn't meant to be taken as an actual accusation of racism. Jeesh.. FA has you guys on edge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Free agency is supposed to be used to prevent a team from having to draft for need, but suddenly it's looking like a CB in the first or second round for the Jets this year. It looks like one of the other 6 cb's outside of milliner needs to step up for that #2 spot. Make a name for yourself and protect this house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 December 2013 "cro sucks" march 20 2014 "idzik sucks for letting him get away" you can't make this sh*t up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Free agency is supposed to be used to prevent a team from having to draft for need, but suddenly it's looking like a CB in the first or second round for the Jets this year. Ehh, what's stopping them from having Walls start? If they were content with the caliber of play Cromartie put forth last year, why wouldn't they be satisfied with a superior level of play from someone we just signed for two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Honest question. What is the deal with June 1 cuts? In the old days those players were designated differently, but I think anybody can be designated as a June 1 cut earlier. I think that was a concession to the NFLPA so guys were not getting caught out of a job so late and into camp. Are there any other days when teams are expected to make financially based cuts - like the start of the league year? I know some guys are due a bonus (Sanchez) that will dictate their cut date, but are there any other league wide dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I don't understand how anybody can be too upset about this, Mrs. Cro aside. Guy wasn't good last year, he was beyond not good, he was terrible. It's no surprise that they're letting him walk. So no, you can't kill Idzik for this move. On the other hand, let's not go sucking his cack just yet either just because he's not Mike Tannenbaum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Read it again and pretend this is next to it: It wasn't meant to be taken as an actual accusation of racism. Jeesh.. FA has you guys on edge... Well then, hell - that's funny!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Read it again and pretend this is next to it: It wasn't meant to be taken as an actual accusation of racism. Jeesh.. FA has you guys on edge... Hey lawn mower man stop the racism or will body slam you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 cool now that we got rid of the dumb (Holmes Cro ) maybe we can start to bring in some players with brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 At his best he was good, and a good teammate. But how many times did he wiff a tackle? Overall Cro was a disappointment to me. Definitely surprised we didn't resign but I guess it's time to turn the page. We better hit some home runs in this draft or this is going to be a boring, depressing fall. Here's to Dennard and Beckham ( yea fat chance but I rly liked Beckham). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Actually, in all fairness to Cro, he's grown up a bit in that department. They did a big piece on him where he detailed how his accountants and he have set up trusts for each child to go to college and how he can live the life he wants should he have retired that same year. He also is on the committee that counsels younger athletes coming in to the NFL as well. He made be acting like a total bitch right now, but he's matured a fair amount, especially when it comes to finances. he's upset cause he wanted to comeback to the jets. if he wants to vent his frustration so what. it might be slightly effeminate but whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisYearsModel Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Jets were disloyal? Really Cro? They fronted you $ when you came over so you could catch up on payments to the mothers of your litters. Arizona is a target-rich environment. Watch for the Cro posse to grow now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 My post? Reading your later comments I see you were kidding around. I just don't like that stuff being flung around. Cro has had money in the past that he's blown through to the point that he couldn't make his child support payments. Would be the same situation and he'd be just as much of a knucklehead money-wise no matter what his skin color. If you were just joking around, then forget it & it's all good. But I wasn't the only one who couldn't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Honest question. What is the deal with June 1 cuts? In the old days those players were designated differently, but I think anybody can be designated as a June 1 cut earlier. I think that was a concession to the NFLPA so guys were not getting caught out of a job so late and into camp. Are there any other days when teams are expected to make financially based cuts - like the start of the league year? I know some guys are due a bonus (Sanchez) that will dictate their cut date, but are there any other league wide dates? I don't know if you can pick as many as you want to designate as a June 1 cut, but I'm in no way certain. But I thought you could only do it for 1 or 2 players. The difference, effectively, is that the team can spread out the remaining amortized signing bonus as though the player was cut June 1st, BUT they don't have to pony up any bonuses that would have been due if the team had waited until June to actually do it. The team gets out of paying a March roster bonus (like in Sanchez's case). The player gets released earlier and has more time to shop around. Before the draft, in particular, which can be the difference between a starting job at starter money on 1 team, or a backup job for backup money on another, once a team sees what they got (or didn't get) in the draft. It probably helps the teams more, as it's chiefly done to get out of paying 7-figure bonuses without having to absorb the accelerated cap hit all in the current season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 If someone really wanted to be part of the team and did not get to do it for whatever reason they do have a right to vent. I do not see anything out of line here. If someone really wanted to be part of the team, then he should have played for what the Jets offered him. He shouldn't be equating Arizona's willingness to pay him more, and his desire to take more, with Rex or the Jets loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 If someone really wanted to be part of the team, then he should have played for what the Jets offered him. He shouldn't be equating Arizona's willingness to pay him more, and his desire to take more, with Rex or the Jets loyalty. You are assuming the JETS made an offer. Edit: Even if they did not match the one year offer that Zona gave him for whatever reason its ok for a player to vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 1h That's it? “@kentsomers: 1-year deal for Cro is worth $3.25 mil base, per source. He can make another $500k if he plays in every game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I imagine the plan is to draft Roby. Hopefully we get him in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 If someone really wanted to be part of the team, then he should have played for what the Jets offered him. He shouldn't be equating Arizona's willingness to pay him more, and his desire to take more, with Rex or the Jets loyalty. He could have approached Idzik and taken a pay cut to $3M before the Jets cut him. Loyalty, lol. Didn't Idzik advance him even more up-front money as signing bonus in April? Where was his loyalty to the Jets?!? hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Brian Costello @BrianCoz · 1h That's it? “@kentsomers: 1-year deal for Cro is worth $3.25 mil base, per source. He can make another $500k if he plays in every game.” Come on, we can't keep going out there throwing around these huge money contracts as if there's no tomorrow. I mean, $3.25M for a guy that fills a hole on our roster, a guy that knows the system and has performed here? That would put us in #CapHell #HugeOverpay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Come on, we can't keep going out there throwing around these huge money contracts as if there's no tomorrow. I mean, $3.25M for a guy that fills a hole on our roster, a guy that knows the system and has performed here? That would put us in #CapHell #HugeOverpay Does it occur to you that perhaps the Jets didn't want him? If that's all he got then it wasn't about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 We weren't interested at 3.25 million? Really? his hip must be geriatric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 We weren't interested at 3.25 million? Really? his hip must be geriatric. That pisses me off, they obviously were full of sh*t when they told him they "left the door open." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 They better either be thinking trade, or CB 1st or 2nd round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Reading your later comments I see you were kidding around. I just don't like that stuff being flung around. Cro has had money in the past that he's blown through to the point that he couldn't make his child support payments. Would be the same situation and he'd be just as much of a knucklehead money-wise no matter what his skin color. If you were just joking around, then forget it & it's all good. But I wasn't the only one who couldn't tell. Yeah I thought it was a pretty well known running gag.. A subtle jab at the overly sensitive PC crowd. But Cro as we all know has turned it around. I remember the article early last season talking about how he's working with a financial advisor to curb his spending which will allow him to live the rest of his life without monetary concerns. He took a lot of heat but for his past indiscretions but seems to have made a complete 180 both on the field and in his personal life. If you haven't noticed I like to play around on the board so I wouldn't take my posts all that seriously. I certainly don't. With minimal effort I could sound quite rational and even semi-articulate when discussing the NY Jets.. but what fun would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 you remember when we cut Cro? I think it was because we didn't want Cro. I also think he's a Braylon Edwards situation. Had some really good seasons here, but a degenerative condition has finally begun to hinder him enough to cut bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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