AFJF Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 How would you feel if the Jets take another one who falls to 20, like Sheldon Rankins or Robert Nkemdiche for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 This front office has told us they will take the BPA at every opportunity unless they have players who are close in value when need will become the determining factor. In your scenario, I look to trade out or I take a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Depends on what we did in free agency and the trade market. If Maccagnan was able to bring in a RT and OLB and find a team for Wilkerson I wouldn't have a problem with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Lots of good DL this years draft in the first round. Another reason why I think it wise to trade one of our assets (mo, basically) For our first round pick at 20, I think your scenario is pretty likely. Thankfully there may be OT talent left on board to take in that spot. That's part of the reason why I support releasing Breno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN MY FRIDAY!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 You simply can not take another D-linemen. The Jets board should not have a DL in their top 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 "Fortunately" we have enough potential problem areas that there most likely will be a similarly valued OLB, ILB, OT, QB, or RB still on the board as well ... Depending on moves we've already made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Depends on how closely ranked the next guy on the list is. If the next player down is close and obviously not a D-Lineman you probably have to go that route. In addition, like others have said let's see what we do in free agency first. Macc's game plan at least in year one has been to try and fill holes through free agency so we don't have to reach in the draft to fill a position of need. That being said, he had a lot more cap space to work with in year one and will need to get a little more creative this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 draft him, move leonard williams to qb. We should just field 11 DL at all times, innovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 53 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN MY FRIDAY!!?? sums it up perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 "Drafting for need is for losers, sprinkles are for winners!!" Flo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Need will depend on what happens with Mo and Snacks. As I've seen in several mocks that if Lee is the BAP LB'er, I'd be good with DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Would be funny if the kid from Ole Miss fell to us....he's a better player than Williams. Just red flags though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Unfortunately a very realistic scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yup, hell the top 2 or 3 guys could be dlineman, one has top pray we have another guys we like that are close to equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I rather draft anther stud defensive lineman than draft a bust at another position just because of need. BPA is always the best way to go in the draft, screw need that is what FA is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 hours ago, drsamuel84 said: Depends on how closely ranked the next guy on the list is. If the next player down is close and obviously not a D-Lineman you probably have to go that route. In addition, like others have said let's see what we do in free agency first. Macc's game plan at least in year one has been to try and fill holes through free agency so we don't have to reach in the draft to fill a position of need. That being said, he had a lot more cap space to work with in year one and will need to get a little more creative this offseason. This, in a nutshell. BAP gets cloudier as you move thru the draft. They couldn't pass on Leonard Williams last year, no matter what the fans thought at the time. He was really the last blue chip player, and you don't pass that up just because you're solid at his position. At #20, it's less likely that a DL will be rated so much significantly higher than another position of greater need (especially when you consider the Jets have a lot of needs). It's also possible that the Jets trade Mo and lose Snacks in free agency. At that point, they just pull the trigger on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 There are a number of scenarios here. I think the odds of there being a very good DL, including a potential NT, available at 20 are pretty good. They can move Mo, and let Harrison go, and count on there being someone available to add to the DL at 20 (or hopefully with a pick from Mo). My preferred idea is to lock up Mo and Harrison long term, but let Richardson walk next year. At 20 pick the BPA but hope that it is not DL. The Jets need more younger starters. A viable strategy would be to cut Breno and allow Quale to compete with a draft pick, preferably rounds 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Last year was an aberration. Rarely will a player of Williams caliber drop to 6 and so we were left with no choice. Generally, once you get to the 20th pick, you won't have a player talented enough to warrant taking him despite having zero need for that player. We are also coming into the draft coming off a 10 win season. So we are no longer trying to merely accumulate talent, now we are looking to fill some holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 If we draft another DL at 20 I will lose my sh*t, I would want Bowles and Mac fired, I am tired of these idiots taking D line with the first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Given what second contracts cost for DL, continuing to draft them in the first round, letting them be motivated for their second contract, and then letting them sign with someone else (receiving compensatory and sign and trade draft picks) is not a bad strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I would be so angry I would want Rex back! Well, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 We have seen a "quality" D-Line for years now. Unless their name is JJ Watt, they don't get to the QB enough. Tackle. Quarterback. Or edge rusher. And if they take an inside backer, they better be absolutely certain about him. Like Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Kuechly certain. No DL, no RB in 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 5 hours ago, AFJF said: How would you feel if the Jets take another one who falls to 20, like Sheldon Rankins or Robert Nkemdiche for example. I dont think this draft is high on DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Because they are so valuable, and that teams are often lured by athletic prowess, 1st round qbs and edge rushers have a high bust percentage,. If you look at prior drafts, I think the ILBs and OL picked high tend to (but not always) do better. For 2016, I keep coming back to the same place. I think the Jets should: Sign Wilkerson long term. Let SR walk-trade him if possible. Sign as many of Powell, Ivory and Fitz that be retained at fair prices (not low, but not overpaid) Cut and restructure the underperformers (Cromartie, Breno, Brick, Cumberland, Kerley)-other players need to step up. The Jets can't retain those they need to retain, or fill the holes that definitely need to get filled, if they are overpaying these guys on the roster. Draft and sign really smart. Draft BPAs as much as possible to build talent. This may not necessarily get to the playoffs in 2016, but it is better long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: I dont think this draft is high on DL Everything ive read has said otherwise. This is viewed as an extremely strong d-line class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I would trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We have seen a "quality" D-Line for years now. Unless their name is JJ Watt, they don't get to the QB enough. Tackle. Quarterback. Or edge rusher. And if they take an inside backer, they better be absolutely certain about him. Like Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Kuechly certain. No DL, no RB in 1st round. You will take an ILB but not Zeke if he is there at 20?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Marshall was our best player and mvp last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 If that happens, we probably trade down 8-10 spots and pick up a 7th rounder from 2023. That's how our trade downs usually work. Trading up 4 spots would cost us an extra 2nd, 4th n next years 1st n 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Let's hope a stud Dlineman drops to us so we can trade back a few spots for another pick. Teams will trade up for Dline talent. Getting another pick allows you to take that stud RB, and still get some LBs that we need badly. I think Mauldin is gonna be special, not in top 10 type player way but in a Teddy Bruschi all out hustle get the job done type. Everyone's going crazy with Mo, but if we could trade Mo & spend 3/4s of the money he wanted on a FA edge pass rusher we won't miss a beat if we keep Snacks. Leo can easily replace Mo & a vet DL at the end of his career can fill in as a bench player. That's how you create a pass rush. I mean seriously, our edge rusher before bringing Mauldin along was the dinosaur Calvin Pace! There is an article out there that compares our sack & QB pressures to the Denver Broncos & it was absolutely STUNNING how much more pressure the Broncos front put on than we did. In fact, if we could put that much pressure our secondary would probably have been LIGHTS OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Jets were looking to trade down last year with an elite talent on the DL on the board and couldn't get a deal done. There's no way you can plan on a trade down from the 20th pick with a lesser talent on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 If we select another DL in the first round, which would make it our 5th out of the last 7-first rounders, I would feel angry. And I would write a post about how angry I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Just saw Pete Prisco's first mock. 20. New York Jets Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama: They will likely lose nose tackle Damon Harrison to free agency. So this guy would be a nice replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: If we select another DL in the first round, which would make it our 5th out of the last 7-first rounders, I would feel angry. And I would write a post about how angry I am. Lololololoolololol thanks for the laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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