JetNation Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Glenn is flying solo tonight to talk a little bit about which prospects are worth keeping an eye on as the NFL Combine approaches as well as a quick look at our first NY Jets mock draft of the off-season. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Jack Taylor on Netflix, great show!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Nobody. It is not the players---it is the commentators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Personally, I want to see which linebackers put up three-cone and shuttle numbers that are matched only by quadruple amputees and refrigerators, so I know which ones Maccagnan will consider hot prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I'll be in Alabama on a golf trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I'll be there on Saturday to watch the QBs/WRs. I'll provide my abosolutely useless scouting report afterwards, lol. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 run Rich run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Look at the picture from last year's Heisman Ceremony, Jackson looks slightly taller than Mayfield. NFL Draft Scout has him under 6'2'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I will be watching everyone, except Josh Allen. Well maybe I will be watching him to laugh as he throws lasers into the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 the only time I ever watched the combine was to see our new QB, jay cutler Who do we want me to jinx this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 No one. What they did in 3/4 years in college is the only thing that matters. Unless the nfl turns into a skills only competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I used to like the combine but it does not seem to identify any hidden gems, just adds to the list of busts - when was the last time a combine star did well in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 hours ago, New York Mick said: No one. What they did in 3/4 years in college is the only thing that matters. Unless the nfl turns into a skills only competition. I heard a Kiper today say that the Combine will be “really important” for sorting out the top quarterbacks and it was then that I realized 1. He’s not lying, but 2. the NFL is run by outright slapdick morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I heard a Kiper today say that the Combine will be “really important” for sorting out the top quarterbacks and it was then that I realized 1. He’s not lying, but 2. the NFL is run by outright slapdick morons. Interesting use of the indefinite article. Meaning uncoiffed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Super professional and esteemed long-time NFL scout: “Hmmmmm, yes, Josh Allen threw the ball into the net from twenty yards out so I hereby officially claim these alleged accuracy issues are overblown.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Interesting use of the indefinite article. Meaning uncoiffed? Inside, we’re all a Kiper in our own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Chris Warren III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 1:34 AM, Fantasy Island said: Jack Taylor on Netflix, great show!!! Yep. Also Longmire is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Inside, we’re all a Kiper in our own way. Rock Solid hair and puckered tight end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 7:31 PM, win4ever said: I'll be there on Saturday to watch the QBs/WRs. I'll provide my abosolutely useless scouting report afterwards, lol. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That won't be useless, we are looking forward to it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 All the Safeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Not Sam Darnold https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/968503836066353152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Darnold just dropped value in my books. He has been my #1 guy all along but if you are afraid to throw a the combine you get a negative mark against you. I don't care what his agent or handlers tells him. F'ck that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Combine is coming…who are you watching ?.. Bradley Chubb Denzel Ward* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Gotta watch the RBs. Like, ALL of the RB's. Jets need to be able to either find a stud power bell cow type back or a quick super fast Kamara type somewhere in the 2-4th rounds. There's a lot of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Darnold just dropped value in my books. He has been my #1 guy all along but if you are afraid to throw a the combine you get a negative mark against you. I don't care what his agent or handlers tells him. F'ck that. I'm glad you are not the Jets GM. I could care less if he throws. I highly doubt its because he is afraid of anything. If there's no reason to do it, and you're confident you will be going #1. Then why do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, PepPep said: I'm glad you are not the Jets GM. I could care less if he throws. I highly doubt its because he is afraid of anything. If there's no reason to do it, and you're confident you will be going #1. Then why do it. Why not do it? Why do any of them throw? Teams want to see you throw, throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I love the combine, but obviously there are people that make it way too big of a deal out of it. Usually it's best used to just verify a players value. If a CB is perceived to be a stud, but then runs a super slow 40, that is a major red flag. But if a bad CB runs a 4.3, that doesn't suddenly turn him into a 1st round prospect. John Ross jumped up draft boards thanks to a 4.2/40. While he was a good player in college, he was tiny and not that gifted of an all around WR. I honestly, see the combine as a totally useless tool in evaluating QBs. A QBs value is in reading defenses and handling pressure. They can all (except for Hackenberg) hit open WRs in stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 5:59 AM, New York Mick said: No one. What they did in 3/4 years in college is the only thing that matters. Unless the nfl turns into a skills only competition. Disagree...there are historical data measurements that have proven to be very good predictors ie: SPARQ and Lewin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, JiF said: Disagree...there are historical data measurements that have proven to be very good predictors ie: SPARQ and Lewin. Well, Lewin is just stats. As far as athletic testing, the Waldo numbers for pass rushers, particularly the weight-adjusted jump formula, are elegant af. I came up with a better model for the combined agility number but I forgot it and don't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Well, Lewin is just stats. As far as athletic testing, the Waldo numbers for pass rushers, particularly the weight-adjusted jump formula, are elegant af. I came up with a better model for the combined agility number but I forgot it and don't care anymore. I thought Lewin combined some testing as well, no? Cant seem to find the criteria on the interwebz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JiF said: I thought Lewin combined some testing as well, no? Cant seem to find the criteria on the interwebz. I don't know how they do the five-year DVOA projections exactly but the raw numbers are just completion percentage and starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Here: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/introducing-lewin-career-forecast-v20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Also: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/introducing-qbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Here: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/introducing-lewin-career-forecast-v20 3 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Also: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/introducing-qbase completely stat driven...could have sworn they used some other measurements. interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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