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Mods -- feel free to move to practice thread if necessary.  Just thought it interesting to get a look at a national writers view of the Jets.  I filtered out some of the Skins observations, but full article is linked below.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-coach-todd-bowles-wont-commit-to-a-starting-qb-but-it-appears-it-could-be-sam-darnolds-to-lose/

Jets coach Todd Bowles won't commit to a starting QB, but it appears it could be Sam Darnold's to lose

Jets are suddenly loaded at quarterback and have many options, including trading Bridgewater or McCown

RICHMOND, Va. -- I unloaded every trick I had. I played a few word games. I tried everything I could think of to try to goad Todd Bowles into committing to rookie Sam Darnold as his starting quarterback for at least Thursday's exhibition with the Washington Redskins. And I came up short.

Bowles put up with my attempts in a good-natured fashion, but refuses to waver from the mantra that he repeats seemingly daily with the New York media: "All three of our quarterbacks need to be ready to play." And expect that to be the case throughout the summer, although, having spent several days around this team now, watching every throw and chatting up people throughout the organization there is no much mystery here in all actuality: As long as Darnold keeps doing what he has been doing, he is in line to start all 16 games.

I am convinced that barring him falling flat in the next three preseason games -- and I wouldn't bank on that at this point -- Darnold has displayed enough in the meeting rooms and on the field and in the huddle and everywhere else to convince the Jets he is the man for the job and his on-the-job training should begin in Week 1. No one is going to come out and say it, publicly, but that's what everyone is thinking and whispering. In the meantime, Bowles will do his part to manage the situation and keep the rookie guessing.

"He's still learning and he's still progressing," Bowles said. "It's only his second week of training camp and he's learning and applying everything from the classroom and taking it to the field right now. So we're happy with where he is."

The Jets, I firmly believe, have the best quarterback room in the NFL, and a luxury of riches at that position. They have three starting caliber quarterbacks, all of whom continue to shine in these practices against the Redskins, and when you factor in how well Josh McCown played in 2017 prior to injury, and how well Teddy Bridgewater has responded to his devastating injuries, and all of Darnold's promise, I could make the argument that they have three of the top 35 quarterbacks on the planet.

Bowles, not one to mince words and toss platitudes, nearly gushed over Bridgewater when I asked about him following Monday's practice. "Teddy has been great," Bowles said. "Teddy has been great all the way around -- mentally, physically. Just a lift to the team; uplifting the guys and understanding everything, and we're happy to have him."

I can't fathom a scenario, barring injury, where all three of these passers are on the roster come September. Much has been made about possibly trading Bridgewater, and for understandable reasons, but a deal for McCown may actually be more likely. It would take a haul to pry Bridgewater away, while McCown's superior experience would be exactly what a contending team would covet. (Having watched the Rams all of last week, they should have the Jets on speed-dial to upgrade over Sean Mannion). It's only a matter of time before some other quality team loses a starting or top back-up quarterback to injury -- sadly it's inevitable -- and the Jets will have plenty to sort through, I contend. I'd bank on them dealing a QB.

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  • Both teams took heed to the chiding they received from their coaches after a brawl-filled Sunday practice, and there were no incidents on Monday. Washington coach Jay Gruden said he would have considered suspending any player who fought on Monday. "It's on me," Gruden said of Monday's scuffles. "I've got to do a better job." Bowles said: "The way football is supposed to be played -- that's how we practiced on both sides today." The fighting stemmed from Skins players believing Rams corner Trumaine Johnson took aim at the oft-injured ankles of guard Morgan Moses in outside zone run drills on Sunday. The Jets felt like Johnson intended to engage up high and had virtually no idea about Moses' injury history given how infrequently these teams play. Regardless, everything seemed squashed on Monday.
  • Terrelle Pryor is still recovering from an offseason ankle injury and isn't 100 percent, but he is flashing some elite playmaking ability again after a lost season in Washington in 2017. Gruden said he didn't think Pryor could ever run like himself last season, but he ran past the defensive backs a few times Monday to grab long passes. "I feel good, it's getting there," Pryor said, noting he needs to improve his conditioning with so much missed time. He might not play much in the preseason but this is gonna be a better receiving group than a lot of people may think.
  • Jets have made major upgrades throughout the roster and are going to be a very solid team in 2018, I believe, poised to make noise in 2019 (when the Patriots' dynasty has to slow down, right?). But they are sorely lacking impact players on the edge. "We're mixing and matching," Bowles said of a pass rush that will have to be concocted via scheme and deception. They sprinkle a few natural pass rushers to this mix through trade, free agency and the draft and they'll be dangerous. Khalil Mack would look damn good here, that's all I'm sayin, with no end in sight to his holdout in Oakland.
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18 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

I dunno, other than Nick Foles and maybe Tyrod Taylor (I consider him a backup because no way does he stand in the way of Mayfield), which backup QBs are better than McCown and Bridgewater?

Has anyone ever traded anything worth anything for a back up QB?

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22 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

The Eagles received a first and I believe a 4th, for Sam Bradford, after they drafted Wentz.

But my point was not trading your backup but a team trading for a QB to be their backup. 

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13 hours ago, Drums said:

Has anyone ever traded anything worth anything for a back up QB?

The Jets once traded a fourth-rounder for Tim Tebow. 

Anyone trading for Bridgewater would want him as a potential starter.  

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This article appeals to my fandom, but is a whole lot of WTF.

(1) we do not have the best QB room. That belongs to GB. It could be Rodgers, Sanchez, and Geno, and it would still be the best QB room in the league.

(2) McCown will not fetch more than a conditional extra-late round pick that can move up to just a late round pick. What McCown provides the rookie QB and the OC on the Jets this year is far more valuable than the Jets 2019 6th round pick who will be out of the league by 2021. 

(3) No one will give the Jets “a haul” for a Teddy on a 1 year deal, but he will still fetch more than McCown. He is also more expendable from a Jets long-term vantage given that he’ll want to start and will not re-sign with us. Combine that with point #2, and there should be absolutely no way that the Jets move McCown and keep TB. That would be stupid.

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11 hours ago, C Mart said:

LaConfora is an idiot. Jets aren’t trading McCown. He’s here for a reason. A haul for Bridgewater?  He’s on a 1 yr deal and wants to start. 

I agree. I can’t see the Jets getting a haul for Teddy. Maybe a 3rd if some desperate team comes calling. But more likely Teddy is worth a 4th or a 5th. 

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9 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

I agree. I can’t see the Jets getting a haul for Teddy. Maybe a 3rd if some desperate team comes calling. But more likely Teddy is worth a 4th or a 5th. 

At this point, I would prefer to keep him on the roster for now -- unless someone blows us away with an offer.  Anything below a 2 (and I don't see anyone willing to offer that barring pre-season injury to starter on a contending team) and I would rather we hold onto him for now. 

We could still move him during the season before the deadline, when we will know a lot more about Sam's progress and how our season is going.

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14 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

The best QB rooms in the league belong to the team with Rodgers, Brady, Ben, and Brees. Great for a decade+. 

Our situation is good, but let’s not be foolish. 

I don't know, three QBs we know are douche bags.  Brees, who knows,  Must be one hell of a QB room with Brady, Rodgers or Ben.   

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10 minutes ago, Lith said:

At this point, I would prefer to keep him on the roster for now -- unless someone blows us away with an offer.  Anything below a 2 (and I don't see anyone willing to offer that barring pre-season injury to starter on a contending team) and I would rather we hold onto him for now. 

We could still move him during the season before the deadline, when we will know a lot more about Sam's progress and how our season is going.

Yeah. I don't see any rush to move him until the deadline is closing in. Let the market come to us.

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13 minutes ago, Lith said:

At this point, I would prefer to keep him on the roster for now -- unless someone blows us away with an offer.  Anything below a 2 (and I don't see anyone willing to offer that barring pre-season injury to starter on a contending team) and I would rather we hold onto him for now. 

We could still move him during the season before the deadline, when we will know a lot more about Sam's progress and how our season is going.

Agreed.  His max value is going to be if a contending teams starter goes down.  That will fetch the highest draft pick.  I still think that teams like Jax and Denver should bring him in as insurance against bad play from their starters regardless of injury.  

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