Patriot Killa Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Then I hear from Polian on Sirius that none of the disaster that was Bowles tenure was his fault and also he is “very adaptable”. Too many league guys stick up for each other and wind up sounding stupid. We all know Polian was a great GM but yet here he is talking out of the side of his neck as if he has a point. It’s cringe worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We think way worse of him because Bowles played him injured where he obviously couldnt perform a basic function of his job. Blame Bowles, no way we cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Cut and re-sign? Is that an option? Very minuscule at best I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, mrcoops said: Keep him as the Left Guard, find a new Center in FA or the draft. agreed !.. we can't cut EVERYONE ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 saw this.. Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer The Jets are facing their first roster decision of the offseason — G/C Spencer Long. If he's on the roster at 4 p.m. tomorrow, his $3 million roster bonus becomes guaranteed. Translation: It secures a roster spot. So far, the Jets haven't tipped their hand, which could mean they've decided to keep him. Long was underwhelming at center (in part because of an injured hand), but his play at left guard was encouraging to the organization. Factors to consider: They have only one interior lineman under contract (Brian Winters) and the free-agent class isn't that appealing. If they keep Long, it'll cost them $6.5 million on the cap. If they cut him, there's no cap charge. It would be a clean break. > http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, peebag said: I believe the NFL requires that you field some type of a team for the regular season. Now you tell us??? Where were you last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Small hit is better than a huge whiff if we can't replace himSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Keep him and pay him, 3 mil is nothing. Long can play guard and we have some depth as a backup C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He is an ideal backup for the interior of the OL. Keep him and upgrade the starting C. We are losing some depth OL players so Long can help in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Too many league guys stick up for each other and wind up sounding stupid. We all know Polian was a great GM but yet here he is talking out of the side of his neck as if he has a point. It’s cringe worthy. I was shocked listening to him virtually gushing excuse after excuse for Bowles over about 5 minutes. Lost a lot of respect for him. Another one was “Bowles had to start the Rookie at QB this year when “everyone” knew he wasn’t ready”. Guess he missed JJ Watt telling the “Rookie” he was going to be a “great Pro”. Guess he missed him handcuffing the Rookie running into the line twice every series. Something like that is frequently said to someone who is “not ready”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: I was shocked listening to him virtually gushing excuse after excuse for Bowles over about 5 minutes. Lost a lot of respect for him. Another one was “Bowles had to start the Rookie at QB this year when “everyone” knew he wasn’t ready”. Guess he missed JJ Watt telling the “Rookie” he was going to be a “great Pro”. Guess he missed him handcuffing the Rookie running into the line twice every series. Something like that is frequently said to someone who is “not ready”. Josh McCown was the starter in 2017 and he only won a game more than he did with the rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Do we take that small 3mill hit or do we cut him? He was injured and couldn't snap the ball, but he played well at guard proving he can play. I would take the small hit and hope he is healthy in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, sec101row23 said: You have to keep him. There are like only 4 O-linemen on the roster with any kind of experience. He’s safe for 2019. i agree. as other have said he played well at guard. i'm not sure where his cost stacks up against the position average but it's probably less. and at least he can back up the center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Bleedin Green said: Very well said, and I completely agree. The crazy thing is that once he moved over to LG, I'd argue he was the Jets best OL for the second half of the season. If they were set at all of the other positions, then it might be a different story, but he showed himself to be a solid starter on a OL that has plenty of work to be done. While ideally he'd stick at G, he has the flexibility to play multiple positions, which has some very real value to it. There's no reason they should even think about cutting Long right now, and if they somehow end up in a situation after FA and the draft is over that he's not even set to be a starter any longer, that's some damn good news and a $3M insurance policy was still nice to have. agree with this too. long was at center about 3 games loo long. the minute he showed he couldn't snap the ball reliably he should have been pulled for his back up. why bowles didn't do it is something only bowles knows. would they have won more games? no telling but every instance when the wrong guy is in the line up takes away from the team performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Long cut as per Mehta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He's been released! That answers that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, rayzor said: He's been released! That answers that. Have to say I'm surprised. Probably the right move, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said: Have to say I'm surprised. Probably the right move, though I wonder how he would have performed if healthy. He wasn't that expensive either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He’s a good OG so he’s worth keeping. There’s too many holes on this team already and the last thing they need to do is create more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 well so much for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 This team really needs to spread around the work load this offseason. FA alone is going to be unlike any year for probably any team ever. I don’t recall a team with a scheme change having so few players under contract and have so much money. I can’t see how they will be able to improve this roster much besides the draft. Too many holes and not enough time to negotiate with players. I hope like hell that I’m wrong but I’ve been fearing this all offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexJet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Released but Jets trying to resign him to a cheaper contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, TexJet said: Released but Jets trying to resign him to a cheaper contract. He’d be smart to test FA like all of our own FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 It looks like a cap savings of 6.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Another maccagnan special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, TexJet said: Released but Jets trying to resign him to a cheaper contract. Makes sense from the Jet's standpoint. I'd be pissed if I were him but it's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Another maccagnan special. Huh? Macc's trying to resign him to a cheaper deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 They have more cap room than the guy in the waiting room with Beetlejuice. Why would we let go of a serviceable player at our biggest unit of need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Thai Jet said: Why that idiot Bowles kept him in at center is beyond me. The clue is in the first part of your sentence, it's not really complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: He’d be smart to test FA like all of our own FA. Yup and who would blame him. At this point he has nothing to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Maybe its just me but I thought he was a JAG at guard and center even before he hurt his hand. I actually like the message that mediocre performance is no longer acceptable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Thai Jet said: Huh? Macc's trying to resign him to a cheaper deal. Has he signed and free agent without having to try and dump or renegotiate? The object of the game is to sign guys who are actually good enough to live up to their contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, JetPotato said: They have more cap room than the guy in the waiting room with Beetlejuice. Why would we let go of a serviceable player at our biggest unit of need? I'm hoping that they're bringing him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Jet could do better . If there’s one position you can find it’s a Guard. They need to let Winters go as well he is terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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