Why is Darron Lee still here?

[Philc1]

1 minute ago, jetscrazey said:

Do Bowles/Arians not want him in Tampa?  Seems like the last option.

Arians knows Lee is terrible

[Bruce Harper]

4 hours ago, Philc1 said:

He stinks, no one will trade us a carton of eggs for him, and we have 3 players at the same position who are better

He might be okay as a role player.  In fairness, he was our best cover LB and was on pace for a hundred tackles last year if he could have laid off the doobies.  I don't like him either but I wouldn't just cut him unless our fifth rounder shows up big in training camp.

[Beerfish]

He will be gone before the season starts.  He is not a better back up than guys like neville hewitt and the new draftee.  He is also a partial head case and ingratiated himself to the team by not showing up at optional workouts if i am not mistaken. 

I keep hearing lets see how he does after gregg Williams works with him.  I'd say he is gone because gregg Williams probably does not like butter soft linebackers.

[Bruce Harper]

3 hours ago, nico002 said:

Lee played well last year, I certainly wouldn’t say Williamson was any better.

Williamson was way better.

[NYJ1]

42 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

He will be gone before the season starts.  He is not a better back up than guys like neville hewitt and the new draftee.  He is also a partial head case and ingratiated himself to the team by not showing up at optional workouts if i am not mistaken. 

I keep hearing lets see how he does after gregg Williams works with him.  I'd say he is gone because gregg Williams probably does not like butter soft linebackers.

I knew the playing ability wasn't there. I thought that he would be discovered whenever he got extensive playing time.

It's the crap he's pulled off the field or the inability to sit and understand a simple defensive meeting that really freaks me out? He's even more useless than I thought. My hope is maybe someday he'll be smart enough to once and for all actually listen to and follow the coaches direction. If he does that, he might actually find a place in a 4-3 defensive front someday.

[jeremy2020]

52 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I keep hearing lets see how he does after gregg Williams works with him.  I'd say he is gone because gregg Williams probably does not like butter soft linebackers.

Gregg Williams is the defense whisperer though. All of these bad players will suddenly be superstars! Macc was genius all along and, if only, Williams had been here instead of Bowles there would have been multiple Superbowls with these uber talented players (Please ignore that Williams defenses haven't ranked much better than the sh*tshows that Bowels put on the field).

[southparkcpa]

Cutting Bowles would take admission by MAC that he fukked up, again.    MAC is delusional.

[BroadwayBen]

He should have been traded before the draft for capital. Unless Williams has something devised scheme wise for Lee, but I don't see it. 

[JetFaninMI]

5 hours ago, section314 said:

Just trying to be the BIGGER man.?

BIG things come in SMALL packages.

[bealeb319]

He's got a $1.8M salary this year. If they're not getting anything for him in a trade, they might as well hold onto him as depth and hope he figures into the comp pick formula next offseason. He's exactly the kinda guy they might get a pick for before final cuts, though. 

What depth players are better?

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[GangGreenDover]

I see them giving Lee a shot at pass rusher this season also good depth at LB if it don’t work out this season so well bt they know he is at least worthy of one last shot

[Maxman]

He makes no money and injuries happen. No reason to get rid of him right now.

[Rolloffjet]

7 hours ago, nico002 said:

Lee played well last year, I certainly wouldn’t say Williamson was any better.

 

[varjet]

Neville Hewitt, Lee and Cashman are competing for two roster spots.  

Cashman and Hewitt will play Special Teams.  

[batman10023]

9 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Cut 

why would you cut him now?

your post seems to be an over-reaction.  cut him later after camp.

[jetstream23]

3 hours ago, JetFaninMI said:

BIG things come in SMALL packages.

Tell my wife that!!!

[MaxAF]

I’d like to see if Williams can get some value from him. The defense for the last few years looked completely out of position and confused for the most part. Lee has played well in some games but the roll he play under the Bowles/Rodgers cluster was too BIG for him. He’s definitely not ILB material on run plays. Could do well in pass coverage over the middle where the Jets got eaten up last year. I think they were shopping him but couldn’t get a deal worth moving him.

[JetFaninMI]

47 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Tell my wife that!!!

I can see she thinks LITTLE of you.

[kdels62]

I think he gets traded. He’s got value and if we’re lucky we’ll get a third or enough to close the gap to get a corner. However, we have Cashman who is a better and smarter version of Lee. Cashman will be a starter before the end of the year.

[Philc1]

10 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He will be gone before the season starts.  He is not a better back up than guys like neville hewitt and the new draftee.  He is also a partial head case and ingratiated himself to the team by not showing up at optional workouts if i am not mistaken. 

I keep hearing lets see how he does after gregg Williams works with him.  I'd say he is gone because gregg Williams probably does not like butter soft linebackers.

I can see Gase cutting him if Lee Lees it up in preseason and let’s [insert mediocre TE] embarrass him

[Philc1]

4 hours ago, batman10023 said:

why would you cut him now?

your post seems to be an over-reaction.  cut him later after camp.

Because I’ve seen this clown get torched by almost every tight end in the nfl last 4 years 

[BROOKLYN JET]

They're waiting to sell all his bad ass jerseys.

[Philc1]

2 minutes ago, BROOKLYN JET said:

They're waiting to sell all his bad ass jerseys.

 

[Jetsfan80]

On 5/7/2019 at 8:06 AM, BurnleyJet said:

I don’t like Lee, but he’s cheap and is not bad for a back up.

Mike Maccagnan:  Drafting guys in the 1st round who are "not bad for a backup" since 2015.

[Jetsfan80]

On 5/7/2019 at 8:30 AM, nico002 said:

Lee played well last year, I certainly wouldn’t say Williamson was any better.

What are you talking about?  Avery Williamson was, at worst, our 2nd best player on defense last year. 

[Rsherman28]

14 hours ago, kdels62 said:

I think he gets traded. He’s got value and if we’re lucky we’ll get a third or enough to close the gap to get a corner. However, we have Cashman who is a better and smarter version of Lee. Cashman will be a starter before the end of the year.

What do you mean by starter? Mosley and Williamson will have majority of the snaps.

Cashman will be sharing back up snaps with Neville Hewitt who had 26 solo tackles, 4 QB hits, and 1.5 sacks. Limited production on limited time, I can see Cashman's numbers similar to these next year.  However, Cashman will definitely get hit shot on special teams.

[Philc1]

18 hours ago, Rolloffjet said:

 

I don’t get the Lee love this guy has helped kill this defense for three years

[batman10023]

14 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Because I’ve seen this clown get torched by almost every tight end in the nfl last 4 years 

okay. that's fine.  why cut him now was the question.  your answer doesn't really address the point that there is no need to do the cutting now.  

[NYJ1]

On 5/7/2019 at 3:09 PM, Maxman said:

He makes no money and injuries happen. No reason to get rid of him right now.

1.8 million reasons

[bealeb319]

1.8 million reasons

Who could you sign for 1.8 million for next season that would be better?

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[NYJ1]

17 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

Who could you sign for 1.8 million for next season that would be better?

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He could free up a roster spot and make it possible for Mac to sign a Center, CB, WR?? Any of those options are far better than keeping a player that:

1) knows his days are numbered and probably doesn't give a crap, not that he ever did.

2) He will not get much playing time anyway. There's a log jam at ILB and Lee is a castoff.

3) Is a complete idiot off the field. If he pops another drug test the Jets will never find a trade partner for him.

Moreover, the Jets still have approximately 30 million under the cap. The Jets are already well prepared to pay more than 1.8 million if the right player shakes loose.

[Bungaman]

On 5/7/2019 at 7:49 AM, Augustiniak said:

Maybe he’s hiding in the facility and they can’t find him

Unfortunately, and I tried really hard to like him/his play, he wasn't too easy to find when he was on the field, either.

[kdels62]

9 hours ago, Rsherman28 said:

What do you mean by starter? Mosley and Williamson will have majority of the snaps.

Cashman will be sharing back up snaps with Neville Hewitt who had 26 solo tackles, 4 QB hits, and 1.5 sacks. Limited production on limited time, I can see Cashman's numbers similar to these next year.  However, Cashman will definitely get hit shot on special teams.

No, I mean taking snaps from Williamson on passing downs and getting in the game because of a great preseason.

[Maxman]

On 5/7/2019 at 7:49 AM, Augustiniak said:

Maybe he’s hiding in the facility and they can’t find him

He is easy to find. He will be 3 yards behind the tight end.

[14 in Green]

On 5/7/2019 at 11:52 AM, jetscrazey said:

Do Bowles/Arians not want him in Tampa?  Seems like the last option.

It might simply be the fact that he's an ex Buckeye, but Browns fans want him badly. They think he's the missing piece to their defense. As much as we talk scenarios to get rid of Lee, that's how often they talk up possible trades FOR him. 

Apparently Dorsey doesn't feel the same way...