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49 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

But you see I listened and though my interpretation may be subjective I found the arguments made in the podcast to be very well thought out and therefore highly persuasive therefore you wouldn’t compare it to a “earth is flat” podcast.  You didn’t listen to it so you can either trust what I’m saying or you don’t have to, and what I heard was close to an air-right case that Maccagnan happens to probably be the worst guy to have been mistakenly given a GM job in NFL history.

And this is subjective again.  I wouldn’t hire Maccagnan to catch the drip that stinks coming off the back of a garbage truck, at least Idzik supposedly has some math skills.

Both horrible supposed Front Office personnel beyond words.....but Maccagnan is the Worst. 

Still, a podcast!!

He’s wrong and you’re wrong. 

Idzik was 19.7x worse. 

Some other podcaster did that calculation. 

True story. 

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Woody hired Tanny, Idzik and Mac as his GMs, with bad coaches to boot.  He did get to the AFCCG two years ago, but after the Parcells/Mangini magic wore off, they were done.  

Chris now appears to get it. 

That is what is important.  Idzik and Mac were both terrible in both similar and different ways. 

The Jets are in such a hole now it will take at least another year of Darnolds rookie contract to fix.  But I think they are on the right track. 

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17 minutes ago, GATA said:

Ask @CTM they foreplay over the phone 

CTM: "So, what are you wearing?"

JiF: "Swim trunks and a cardigan. What are you wearing?"

CTM: "An all-organic, 100% hemp-made artisanal vest, a pair of very short shorts made from a blend of natural plant fibers, hand-woven by authentic descendants of the Pueblo Indians, and a jock strap made from the noble pubes of the..."

JiF: *hangs up the phone*

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3 hours ago, slats said:

He is not a quality back and there will be much better backs on the open market this weekend if the Jets are looking for an upgrade. There was nothing surprising about him being the team's first cut. One more cut than he was capable of. 

He was a guy who could not keep his feet

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30 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

CTM: "So, what are you wearing?"

JiF: "Swim trunks and a cardigan. What are you wearing?"

CTM: "An all-organic, 100% hemp-made artisanal vest, a pair of very short shorts made from a blend of natural plant fibers, hand-woven by authentic descendants of the Pueblo Indians, and a jock strap made from the noble pubes of the..."

JiF: *hangs up the phone*

While I do have the quad development to rock short shorts I prefer modesty

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31 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

CTM: "So, what are you wearing?"

JiF: "Swim trunks and a cardigan. What are you wearing?"

CTM: "An all-organic, 100% hemp-made artisanal vest, a pair of very short shorts made from a blend of natural plant fibers, hand-woven by authentic descendants of the Pueblo Indians, and a jock strap made from the noble pubes of the..."

JiF: *hangs up the phone*

 

1 minute ago, CTM said:

This is true but in my defense his voice is a dead ringer for ScarJo and he loves roleplay 

The ****? Since when does everybody have JiF’s cell phone?

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5 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

That was actually PROVEN.

I heard a podcast with this kid Michael Nania who quantified all of Idzik’s and Maccagnan’s decisions a few months ago....Idzik was better.

So there you have it...Maccagnan WORST GM in NFL history who was coupled with a mumbler who according to Mike Westhoff  in Year 1....”doesn’t know how to make an adjustment...the guy is going to be a Disaster”.

And when he wasn’t “not making adjustments” he was playing a so-called Center, FOR 9 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, who was firing snaps over, under and to the side of virtually the ONLY player that mattered on the Roster, risking serious injury to said player.  “Always play the Vet” Bowles...protecting that job.  Like dressing up 30-zip deficits by running out the FG unit...”least we didn’t lose by 30”.

Things can ONLY be looking up for the Jets at this point now that those 2 are finally gone.

Well if a kid with a podcast said it then it must be true. They don't let just anybody have a podcast!

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32 minutes ago, 20andOut said:

Well if a kid with a podcast said it then it must be true. They don't let just anybody have a podcast!

Lol. The fact is that the Jets are an ascending team with a young roster and a potential FQB. People need to let it go. JD will take us the rest of the way. 10 days to some meaningful football. I don’t remember the last time I’ve been this excited. 

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JETS ROSTER UPDATES

Offense  (37)
Quarterback  (4) 
    14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221  USC  
    19 - Trevor Siemian 6'3" 220 Northwestern  (Free Agent Signing)  
     8 - Luke Falk 6'4" 223 Washington State (Waivers from Miami) 
     5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal    

Running Back  (4) 
    26 - Le'Veon Bell 6'1" 225 Michigan State (Free Agent Signing)  
    88 - Ty Montgomery 6'0" 216 Stanford (WR/KR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185  Virginia State  (KR)   
    29 - Bilal Powell 5'10 205 Louisville 
    25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette WAIVED

Tight End   (4)   
    87 - Daniel Brown 6'5" 243 James Madison (TE)(Free Agent Signing)  
    47 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia (TE) (2019 Draft Pick)
    85 - Ryan Griffin 6'6" 255 UCONN (TE) (Released by Texans)   
    83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP (TE) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)         
    89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami (TE) (4 Game Suspension)  

Wide Receiver   (11) 
    81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska   (WR)    
    11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple (WR)  
    82 - Jamison Crowder 5'9" 177 Duke (WR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    15 - Josh Bellamy 6'0" 208 Louisville (WR) (Free Agent Signing)  
    18 - Deontay Burnett 6'0" 180 USC (WR) 
     2 - Greg Dortch 5'7" 173  Wake Forest (2019 UDFA) (WR/KR)  
    10 - Deonte Thompson  6'0" 204 Florida (WR/KR?)  (Veteran Free Agent) 
     6 - Tim White   5'10" 185 Arizona State (WR) 
    17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson (WR)   
     9 - Jeff Smith 6'0" 195  Boston College (2019 UDFA) 
    84 - Quincy Adeboyejo  6'3" 200 Mississippi (WR)   (Veteran Free Agent)   

Offensive Line   (14) 
    68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303  SMU (T)   
    72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T)  
    70 - Kelechi Osemele 6'5" 330 Iowa State (G)  (Acquired via Trade with Raiders) 
    55 - Ryan Kalil 6"2" 300 USC (C)
    67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G)    
    75 - Chuma Edoga 6'3" 308 (T) USC (2019 Draft Pick)  
    77 - Tom Compton 6'6" 314 South Dakota (G/T) (Free Agent Signing)    
    78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C)
    61 - Alex Lewis 6'6" 315 Michigan (G)  (Trade with Ravens)
    69 - Benjamin Braden 6'6" 335 Nebraska (G/T)
    65 - Eric Smith 6'4" 308 Virginia (T)  
    64 - Jon Toth   6'5" 310 Kentucky (C) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    71 - Wyatt Miller  6'5" 306  Central Florida (OT)  (2019 UDFA)
    76 - Calvin Anderson  6'4" 292 Texas (T) (UDFA/Waiver Patriots)  
    60 - Ryan Anderson  6'6" 305 Wake Forest  (C) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    66 - Jordan Morgan 6'3" 313 Kutztown  (G) WAIVED
    79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) (INJURY)  

Defense (40)
Defensive Line  (9)  
    92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT)  
    96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300  Stanford (DE)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    95 - Quinnen Williams 6'3" 303 (DT) Alabama (2019 Draft Pick)  
    99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    91 - Bronson Kaufusi 6'6" 275 BYU (DE/OLB?) 
    94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT)     
    97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315  Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)  
    98 - Kyle Phillips 6'4" 277  Tennessee (DE)  (2019 UDFA)
    59 - Justin Alexandre 6'5" 256  Incarnate World (DL / LB?) (2019 UDFA) 
    64 - Trevon Sanders 6'2" 327 Troy  (DT) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    62 - Myquon Stout  6'1" 280  Appalachian State (DL)  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Linebacker  (13)  
    57 - CJ Mosley 6'2" 250 Alabama (ILB) (Free Agent Signing) 
    48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB)   
    53 - Blake Cashman 6'1" 237 (ILB) Minnesota (2019 Draft Pick)
    56 - Jachai Polite 6'3" 258 (OLB/DE) Flroida (2019 Draft Pick)   
    46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   
    50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB)  
    93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB / DE?)      
    52 - Anthony Wint 6'0" 224 FIU (ILB)      
    47 - Albert McClellan 6'2" 235 Marshall (ILB) 
    44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB)   
    58 - James Burgess  6'0" 230 Louisville (LB) (Veteran Free Agent) 
    55 - Stephone Anthony  6'3" 245 Clemson (LB) (Veteran Free Agent)   Recently Added
    49 - Jamey Mosley 6'5" 239  Alabama (LB)  (2019 UDFA) 
    51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   (4 Game Suspension)  

Cornerback  (11)  
    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB)    
    34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    xx - Nate Hairston 6'0"185 Tulane (CB)  (Trade with Colts - 6th round pick)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) 
    43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
    31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)   
    41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

Safety   (7)   
    33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU  (S) 
    45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) (S)  
    20 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida  (S)   
    30 - Derrick Kindred 5'10" 208  TCU (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    XX - Matthais Farley 5'11" 204  Temple (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State  (S)   
    23 - Godwin Igwebuike 6'0" 212 Northwestern (S) (Waivers from Eagles)
    39 - Santos Ramirez  6'2" 205  Arkansas  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Special Teams (4)
Punter    (2) 
    4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State (P)  
    3 - Matt Darr 6'1" 217 Tennessee (P)

Kicker    (1) 
    1 - Taylor Bertolet 5'9" 188 Texas A+M (PK) (Free Agent Signing)  

Long Snapper   (1)  
    42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke (LS)

International Player Pathway (Non-Roster) - 1 
    39 - Valentine Holmes 6'1" 200 Australia (RB/WR/KR) 

Injured Reserve - 2
    54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB)  
    38 - Brandon Bryant 6'0" 215 Mississippi State (S) 

Reserve / Non-Football Injury - 1
    30 - Jalin Moore  5'10" 212 Appalachian State (RB) (2019 UDFA)

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1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said:

JETS ROSTER UPDATES

Offense  (37)
Quarterback  (4) 
    14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221  USC  
    19 - Trevor Siemian 6'3" 220 Northwestern  (Free Agent Signing)  
     8 - Luke Falk 6'4" 223 Washington State (Waivers from Miami) 
     5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal    

Running Back  (4) 
    26 - Le'Veon Bell 6'1" 225 Michigan State (Free Agent Signing)  
    88 - Ty Montgomery 6'0" 216 Stanford (WR/KR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185  Virginia State  (KR)   
    29 - Bilal Powell 5'10 205 Louisville 
    25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette WAIVED

Tight End   (4)   
    87 - Daniel Brown 6'5" 243 James Madison (TE)(Free Agent Signing)  
    47 - Trevon Wesco 6'3" 267  West Virginia (TE) (2019 Draft Pick)
    85 - Ryan Griffin 6'6" 255 UCONN (TE) (Released by Texans)   
    83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP (TE) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)         
    89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami (TE) (4 Game Suspension)  

Wide Receiver   (11) 
    81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska   (WR)    
    11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple (WR)  
    82 - Jamison Crowder 5'9" 177 Duke (WR) (Free Agent Signing) 
    15 - Josh Bellamy 6'0" 208 Louisville (WR) (Free Agent Signing)  
    18 - Deontay Burnett 6'0" 180 USC (WR) 
     2 - Greg Dortch 5'7" 173  Wake Forest (2019 UDFA) (WR/KR)  
    10 - Deonte Thompson  6'0" 204 Florida (WR/KR?)  (Veteran Free Agent) 
     6 - Tim White   5'10" 185 Arizona State (WR) 
    17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson (WR)   
     9 - Jeff Smith 6'0" 195  Boston College (2019 UDFA) 
    84 - Quincy Adeboyejo  6'3" 200 Mississippi (WR)   (Veteran Free Agent)   

Offensive Line   (14) 
    68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303  SMU (T)   
    72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T)  
    70 - Kelechi Osemele 6'5" 330 Iowa State (G)  (Acquired via Trade with Raiders) 
    55 - Ryan Kalil 6"2" 300 USC (C)
    67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G)    
    75 - Chuma Edoga 6'3" 308 (T) USC (2019 Draft Pick)  
    77 - Tom Compton 6'6" 314 South Dakota (G/T) (Free Agent Signing)    
    78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C)
    61 - Alex Lewis 6'6" 315 Michigan (G)  (Trade with Ravens)
    69 - Benjamin Braden 6'6" 335 Nebraska (G/T)
    65 - Eric Smith 6'4" 308 Virginia (T)  
    64 - Jon Toth   6'5" 310 Kentucky (C) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    71 - Wyatt Miller  6'5" 306  Central Florida (OT)  (2019 UDFA)
    76 - Calvin Anderson  6'4" 292 Texas (T) (UDFA/Waiver Patriots)  
    60 - Ryan Anderson  6'6" 305 Wake Forest  (C) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    66 - Jordan Morgan 6'3" 313 Kutztown  (G) WAIVED
    79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) (INJURY)  

Defense (40)
Defensive Line  (9)  
    92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT)  
    96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300  Stanford (DE)  (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    95 - Quinnen Williams 6'3" 303 (DT) Alabama (2019 Draft Pick)  
    99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed) 
    91 - Bronson Kaufusi 6'6" 275 BYU (DE/OLB?) 
    94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT)     
    97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315  Ft. Hays State (DE/DT)  
    98 - Kyle Phillips 6'4" 277  Tennessee (DE)  (2019 UDFA)
    59 - Justin Alexandre 6'5" 256  Incarnate World (DL / LB?) (2019 UDFA) 
    64 - Trevon Sanders 6'2" 327 Troy  (DT) (2019 UDFA) WAIVED
    62 - Myquon Stout  6'1" 280  Appalachian State (DL)  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Linebacker  (13)  
    57 - CJ Mosley 6'2" 250 Alabama (ILB) (Free Agent Signing) 
    48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB)   
    53 - Blake Cashman 6'1" 237 (ILB) Minnesota (2019 Draft Pick)
    56 - Jachai Polite 6'3" 258 (OLB/DE) Flroida (2019 Draft Pick)   
    46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   
    50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB)  
    93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB / DE?)      
    52 - Anthony Wint 6'0" 224 FIU (ILB)      
    47 - Albert McClellan 6'2" 235 Marshall (ILB) 
    44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB)   
    58 - James Burgess  6'0" 230 Louisville (LB) (Veteran Free Agent) 
    55 - Stephone Anthony  6'3" 245 Clemson (LB) (Veteran Free Agent)   Recently Added
    49 - Jamey Mosley 6'5" 239  Alabama (LB)  (2019 UDFA) 
    51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB) (UNRESTRICTED FA - Re-Signed)   (4 Game Suspension)  

Cornerback  (11)  
    22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana (CB)    
    34 - Brian Poole 5'10" 205 Florida (CB)    (Free Agent Signing)  
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall  (CB)   
    xx - Nate Hairston 6'0"185 Tulane (CB)  (Trade with Colts - 6th round pick)
    35 – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (CB/S?) (Reserve/Future Contract)       
    40 - Kyron Brown 6'1" 195  Akron  (CB)   (2019 UDFA) 
    43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane (CB) 
    31 - Marcus Cooper 6'2" 197 Rutgers  (CB)   (Veteran Free Agent)
    37 – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract) 
    25 - Alex Brown 5'11" 170  South Carolina St. (CB)   (Waivers from Eagles) 
    32 - Mark Myers 5'10" 185 Southeastern Univ. (CB)   
    41 - Blessaun Austin 6'1" 198 Rutgers (2019 Draft Pick) (CB)   (Active / Non-Football Injury)

Safety   (7)   
    33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU  (S) 
    45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA) (S)  
    20 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida  (S)   
    30 - Derrick Kindred 5'10" 208  TCU (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    XX - Matthais Farley 5'11" 204  Temple (S) (Waivers from Colts)   
    36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State  (S)   
    23 - Godwin Igwebuike 6'0" 212 Northwestern (S) (Waivers from Eagles)
    39 - Santos Ramirez  6'2" 205  Arkansas  (2019 UDFA) WAIVED

Special Teams (4)
Punter    (2) 
    4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State (P)  
    3 - Matt Darr 6'1" 217 Tennessee (P)

Kicker    (1) 
    1 - Taylor Bertolet 5'9" 188 Texas A+M (PK) (Free Agent Signing)  

Long Snapper   (1)  
    42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke (LS)

International Player Pathway (Non-Roster) - 1 
    39 - Valentine Holmes 6'1" 200 Australia (RB/WR/KR) 

Injured Reserve - 2
    54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB)  
    38 - Brandon Bryant 6'0" 215 Mississippi State (S) 

Reserve / Non-Football Injury - 1
    30 - Jalin Moore  5'10" 212 Appalachian State (RB) (2019 UDFA)

Thank you. 

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21 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Kind of sucks to be the first one cut. That means McGuire was roughly the 90th best player in camp. Big drop from the days where he was getting carries in the regular season.

I know the 90th thing is a flawed logic. I’m going with it though.

You are making assumptions about the Jets' motives for releasing him first..  They may just have wanted to give him the opp to be out there just a little earlier than most others.

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16 hours ago, joebracken33 said:

Have we fired Cannon ?

Has Charone peaked ?

Did we send Valentine Holmes ?

Did we torch Dortch ?

I love the cute rhymes and all, but for this Dortch one... shut your mouth!!!  I'd rather see Dortch torch other teams on returns for us.

("fired Cannon"  LOL)

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19 minutes ago, Dcat said:

You are making assumptions about the Jets' motives for releasing him first..  They may just have wanted to give him the opp to be out there just a little earlier than most others.

It doesn't matter because he still has to go through waivers. It's not like he's a free agent.

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