New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Obviously Polite was an awful pick and almost everyone on the board thought it was stupid right after he was picked but who would you have picked? A OL, RB, WR, TE, OLB? I would of went with OC/OG - Michael Deiter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Cashman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Harris Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Conor McGovern - Center, Penn State Save 8.4 million on Kalil 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pac said: Cashman That’s a dumb answer even for a Jets fan. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, David Harris said: Conor McGovern - Center, Penn State Save 8.4 million on Kalil Unfortunately they still might of needed Kalil, McGovern might be out for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Sternberger or David Long probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I also wanted McGovern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalbarracuda Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Justin Layne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Seemed like the whole board wanted Winovich at the time 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCJet Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Chase Winovich and there really isnt much debate. The frustrating thing isnt just that Polite now is gone while Winovich looks great, but there was ZERO consistency to what Mac was doing in the 3rd round. 2017 he takes an athletically limited player with good football character in Adarius Stewart. 2018 he takes a small school prospect, who is older in Nathan Shepphard, who also may not make it more then 1 season. Then in 2019, when he needed an OLB he takes a player with no football character over a guy in Winovich with a high motor and football character. Why not stick with some sort of model? The answer is that Mac consistently tried to prove he could find players that others couldn't, rather then take the player with the best chance of being a productive NFL player. Trying to prove your smarter then other people is what leads to you seeing traits that aren't there, and making mistakes. 6 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Not Polite 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, BCJet said: Chase Winovich and there really isnt much debate. The frustrating thing isnt just that Polite now is gone while Winovich looks great, but there was ZERO consistency to what Mac was doing in the 3rd round. 2017 he takes an athletically limited player with good football character in Adarius Stewart. 2018 he takes a small school prospect, who is older in Nathan Shepphard, who also may not make it more then 1 season. Then in 2019, when he needed an OLB he takes a player with no football character over a guy in Winovich with a high motor and football character. Why not stick with some sort of model? The answer is that Mac consistently tried to prove he could find players that others couldn't, rather then take the player with the best chance of being a productive NFL player. Trying to prove your smarter then other people is what leads to you seeing traits that aren't there, and making mistakes. Agreed. I wanted Winovich. High motor, high character player from a major program at a position of need. McGovern was in the running for me too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Tragically, Hurd went one pick before. I would have gone McGovern or OG Nate Davis 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, BCJet said: Chase Winovich and there really isnt much debate. The frustrating thing isnt just that Polite now is gone while Winovich looks great, but there was ZERO consistency to what Mac was doing in the 3rd round. 2017 he takes an athletically limited player with good football character in Adarius Stewart. 2018 he takes a small school prospect, who is older in Nathan Shepphard, who also may not make it more then 1 season. Then in 2019, when he needed an OLB he takes a player with no football character over a guy in Winovich with a high motor and football character. Why not stick with some sort of model? The answer is that Mac consistently tried to prove he could find players that others couldn't, rather then take the player with the best chance of being a productive NFL player. Trying to prove your smarter then other people is what leads to you seeing traits that aren't there, and making mistakes. A lot of posters were screaming his name in the draft thread. I wanted them to go OL, I don’t think anyone wanted Polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: A lot of posters were screaming his name in the draft thread. I wanted them to go OL, I don’t think anyone wanted Polite. Although I wanted Winovich, I was fine with the Polite pick. A lot of times the pre-draft process can go poorly for guys who still wind up being good players. I felt the risk-reward of getting a legit edge rusher at 68 was worth it. If he proved to be lazy or not care enough about football fine, then we dont want him here. But if GW just chose him as his whipping boy, and we got rid of a good player without trying to develop him then that is a really poor move by the entire FO staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, BCJet said: Although I wanted Winovich, I was fine with the Polite pick. A lot of times the pre-draft process can go poorly for guys who still wind up being good players. I felt the risk-reward of getting a legit edge rusher at 68 was worth it. If he proved to be lazy or not care enough about football fine, then we dont want him here. But if GW just chose him as his whipping boy, and we got rid of a good player without trying to develop him then that is a really poor move by the entire FO staff. I’m trying to find the draft thread to see the reactions after he was picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I wanted Winovich. OL, or any O really, would have been good too. My exact post-pick comment: Quote Would have preferred Offense. Would have preferred Winovich over Polite. Typical Macc "I know best" reach pick, and yet more Defense. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hakeem Butler or Darrell Henderson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 "Who would you HAVE drafted," not "OF." Please, let's speak English here - we're Jets fans, not animals ... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, FloridaJetsFan said: "Who would you HAVE drafted," not "OF." Please, let's speak English here - we're Jets fans, not animals ... Happy? I went to school in Florida, you’re lucky I speak any English. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: Seemed like the whole board wanted Winovich at the time I’m a big fan of PFF- they loved Chase and so did I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I wanted Darrell Henderson. I know a lot of posters posted their picks in a thread about who would you have picked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’m trying to find the draft thread to see the reactions after he was picked. https://forums.jetnation.com/search/?&q=winovich&page=10&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I wanted top OL on the board. If not, I would have been happy with Winovich. Polite? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hmm. I remember really wanting to go WR in round 3. Thought the draft was deep in guys who could be solid #2 guys. So maybe I would have drafted Boykin who I liked. But I also liked Cajuste. So one of those two guys. Probably Boykin though. Outside of the first round, I don’t really pound the table for someone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, Paradis said: Tragically, Hurd went one pick before. I would have gone McGovern or OG Nate Davis Goddamm you. Goddamm you to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Warfish said: I wanted Winovich. OL, or any O really, would have been good too. My exact post-pick comment: You'll never go broke betting against Mike Maccagnan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, nycdan said: https://forums.jetnation.com/search/?&q=winovich&page=10&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy Thanks. There’s a surprising number of posters that loved the pick. I posted JIF doesn’t even want this kid. Two D players with needs on offense. but I was all for an offensive draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Goddamm you. Goddamm you to hell. Is there anything worse than watching the player you want go 1 pick before and then the guy you take doesn't make it out of August? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Probably Hakeem Butler honestly. Or Miles Boykin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Conor McGovern - Center, Penn State Save 8.4 million on KalilConnor mocgovern was who I was targeting there. When he was on the board I thought it was a given that he would be the pick. When polite was announced I damn near puked. Others: Hakeem butler Michael deiterJace sternberger Chase winovich Hustle frohodt (reach)So many others would have been great picks there. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Chase Winovich and there really isnt much debate. The frustrating thing isnt just that Polite now is gone while Winovich looks great, but there was ZERO consistency to what Mac was doing in the 3rd round. 2017 he takes an athletically limited player with good football character in Adarius Stewart. 2018 he takes a small school prospect, who is older in Nathan Shepphard, who also may not make it more then 1 season. Then in 2019, when he needed an OLB he takes a player with no football character over a guy in Winovich with a high motor and football character. Why not stick with some sort of model? The answer is that Mac consistently tried to prove he could find players that others couldn't, rather then take the player with the best chance of being a productive NFL player. Trying to prove your smarter then other people is what leads to you seeing traits that aren't there, and making mistakes. We call that doing the Schotty(Brian)Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: Obviously Polite was an awful pick and almost everyone on the board thought it was stupid right after he was picked but who would you have picked? A OL, RB, WR, TE, OLB? I would of went with OC/OG - Michael Deiter. Actually almost nobody thought it was a stupid, as a matter of fact, many thought it was a great pick. Check the thread after he was selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: Actually almost nobody thought it was a stupid, as a matter of fact, many thought it was a great pick. Check the thread after he was selected. Read post 28 in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BCJet said: Chase Winovich and there really isnt much debate. The frustrating thing isnt just that Polite now is gone while Winovich looks great, but there was ZERO consistency to what Mac was doing in the 3rd round. 2017 he takes an athletically limited player with good football character in Adarius Stewart. 2018 he takes a small school prospect, who is older in Nathan Shepphard, who also may not make it more then 1 season. Then in 2019, when he needed an OLB he takes a player with no football character over a guy in Winovich with a high motor and football character. Why not stick with some sort of model? The answer is that Mac consistently tried to prove he could find players that others couldn't, rather then take the player with the best chance of being a productive NFL player. Trying to prove your smarter then other people is what leads to you seeing traits that aren't there, and making mistakes. I wish someone who do an analysis comparing Macc’s picks to what we would’ve had simply taking to top available guy on Mel Kiper’s board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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