Popular Post JetsLife Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Brady himself would admit he’s a also a product of a superior OC and superior game plan week in week out. I know because I know enough broadly and semi directly to know. You place Darnold in the Pats system and he would light it up. Obviously not to the GOAT’s level starting out - but he’d light it up over time if not within a few weeks If we wish to point fingers point then point every which way but young Sammy Darnold. The kid has the skills. He’s been thrust in to awful awful awful coaching above all. This offensive line deficiency talk has merit to it. But it is, has been and always will be about the acumen of your OC and broader operation to put your QB in a position to succeed. Please all you anti Darnold-ers: no QB ever or Usain Bolt would’ve escaped that Monday night. Wake up. It’s NOT Darnold. It’s everyone else BUT him. 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 I'm not even beginning to write off Darnold but there is no excusing his terrible MNF performance. 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 It doesn’t matter team is trash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grandy Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 He's not overall the problem, but Monday he was inexcusably awful. If you plug in any other QB we still lose, but his terrible game remains. He's done some awesome things, but I saw some of the worst throws I've ever seen Monday and I'm scared sh*tless. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 The “Seeing ghosts” is his butt fumble. Rich Eisen said he will have to win a Lombardi to live it down. It went so badly, It could be what finishes the kid off before he’s started. First he gets the mono, then he plays epically bad, and worse of all embarrassing himself in front of the nation. Not the ideal second year bounce, you want out of your QB. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, daquix said: 2002 ... "Vinny Testaverde is NOT the problem" 2004 ... "Chad Pennington is NOT the problem" 2011 ... "Mark Sanchez is NOT the problem" 2014 ... "Geno Smith is NOT the problem" 2016 ... "Ryan Fitzpatrick is NOT the problem" 2019 ... "Sam Darnold is NOT the problem" Psss... these QB's were ALL part of the problem. Ugh, Darnold isn't. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, daquix said: 2002 ... "Vinny Testaverde is NOT the problem" 2004 ... "Chad Pennington is NOT the problem" 2011 ... "Mark Sanchez is NOT the problem" 2014 ... "Geno Smith is NOT the problem" 2016 ... "Ryan Fitzpatrick is NOT the problem" 2019 ... "Sam Darnold is NOT the problem" Psss... these QB's were ALL part of the problem. You lost everyone on this board when you mentioned Vinny and Chad in the same post as Mark and Geno. Just stop. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: The “Seeing ghosts” is his butt fumble. Rich Eisen said he will have to win a Lombardi to live it down. It went so badly, It could be what finishes the kid off before he’s started. First he gets the mono, then he plays epically bad, and worse of all embarrassing himself in front of the nation. Not the ideal second year bounce, you want out of your QB. That's pretty a stupid comment by Eisen. That some fans think a QB, who has played well, is done after one bad game is mind boggling 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 This is the wrong week to claim Sam’s not a problem. He was beyond awful. a lot of blame to go around, and he gets some of it. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ScarletKnight89 Posted October 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2019 Who in their right mind would think that Darnold is part of the problem? I'd question what they are watching. Excluding Monday nights game obviously where he was awful. Darnold is a 22 year old QB whose played 16 NFL games. When he came back last year in Buffalo he graded out as one of the best QBs in the league according to PFF metrics for the remainder of the season. He was solid against Buffalo this year and great against Dallas. Give the kid a break. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: You lost everyone on this board when you mentioned Vinny and Chad in the same post as Mark and Geno. Just stop. Hes another troll having fun after our horrendous game. its what some do. Children do. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: That's pretty a stupid comment by Eisen. That some fans think a QB, who has played well, is done after one bad game is mind boggling Worked for Sanchez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: Worked for Sanchez. Only if you didn't watch Sanchez actually play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, JetsLife said: If we wish to point fingers point then point every which way but young Sammy Darnold. Wake up. It’s NOT Darnold. It’s everyone else BUT him. "young Sammy Darnold" LMAO Unless you're his mom or the chick who gave him mono... Seriously? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, JetsLife said: Brady himself would admit he’s a also a product of a superior OC and superior game plan week in week out. I know because I know enough broadly and semi directly to know. You place Darnold in the Pats system and he would light it up. Obviously not to the GOAT’s level starting out - but he’d light it up over time if not within a few weeks If we wish to point fingers point then point every which way but young Sammy Darnold. The kid has the skills. He’s been thrust in to awful awful awful coaching above all. This offensive line deficiency talk has merit to it. But it is, has been and always will be about the acumen of your OC and broader operation to put your QB in a position to succeed. Please all you anti Darnold-ers: no QB ever or Usain Bolt would’ve escaped that Monday night. Wake up. It’s NOT Darnold. It’s everyone else BUT him. We have a gm who totally ignored any support group of players for a young franchise Qb for years. We have a terrible offensive line, We have no true security blanket TE We have an awful awful head coach/oc that utterly failed in their last 'take a Qb to the next level' gig. When everyone was excusing gase and his plan because of falk I said right then at when darnold comes back and does not look near as good as last year that people on here will start dumping all over him. I've been very critical of a lot of jets QBS in the past even when it was not fashionable to do so (Sanchez), this guy is a potential franchise qb too bad the jets being the jets are doing everything in their power to f'ck it up. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, JetsLife said: Brady himself would admit he’s a also a product of a superior OC and superior game plan week in week out. I know because I know enough broadly and semi directly to know. You place Darnold in the Pats system and he would light it up. Obviously not to the GOAT’s level starting out - but he’d light it up over time if not within a few weeks If we wish to point fingers point then point every which way but young Sammy Darnold. The kid has the skills. He’s been thrust in to awful awful awful coaching above all. This offensive line deficiency talk has merit to it. But it is, has been and always will be about the acumen of your OC and broader operation to put your QB in a position to succeed. Please all you anti Darnold-ers: no QB ever or Usain Bolt would’ve escaped that Monday night. Wake up. It’s NOT Darnold. It’s everyone else BUT him. Is this satire? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, JetsLife said: Brady himself would admit he’s a also a product of a superior OC and superior game plan week in week out. I know because I know enough broadly and semi directly to know. You place Darnold in the Pats system and he would light it up. Obviously not to the GOAT’s level starting out - but he’d light it up over time if not within a few weeks Yes, if Darnold started cheating, he'd be pretty good, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 He had a bad game, team was overmatched, our out coached, that is the best defense/scheme he’ll ever face in his career. Lets move on 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Darnold will have a good career, either here or elsewhere. ....Probably elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carlito1171 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 There's no data out there that proves Sam isn't part of the problem right now...can't call him a bust yet, can't say hes our surefire Franchise QB yet.....we don't know what he is at this time.....anyone who tries to tell you otherwise doesn't know themselves they only think they do.... We've seen him play well at times.....however, as much as I like Sam, I would be lying if I didn't mention that his penchant for chucking the ball recklessly and turning it over when he's flustered is at least concerning..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: There's no data out there that proves Sam isn't part of the problem right now...can't call him a bust yet, can't say hes our surefire Franchise QB yet.....we don't know what he is at this time.....anyone who tries to tell you otherwise doesn't know themselves they only think they do.... We've seen him play well at times.....however, as much as I like Sam, I would be lying if I didn't mention that his penchant for chucking the ball recklessly and turning it over when he's flustered is at least concerning..... When you are flustered as a QB, there are not many good outcomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnitedWhofans Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I mean, to think that he is the problem, especially coming after the Cowboys game the previous week, is the bipolar takes of all bipolar takes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Darnold has a really intriguing skill set. His propensity is to succeed out of structure which is exciting, though I worry a little that what makes him special (those off platform, weird arm angle, back foot throws) are what will lead to him always being a little inconsistent. Seems like the bad habits make him great but can also lead to negative plays. I don’t think it’s a lock he’s successful. I do think he’d be an example of a quarterback prospect the Jets ruined rather than just a bad pick. The first in recent memory. Need to get him some protection and guys who can get open before seeing ghosts is a thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 He had an abysmal game. If he has many more of those, he will be the problem. Through 16 games as a starter, he's up and down. He's had some brilliant games and some awful ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohhthepain Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 If this season continues on it's current path, Sam is likely to have his 3rd head coach and 3rd new offense to learn in 3 years. Absolutely no stability. Hes had below average weapons on offense, and an absolutley terrible offensive line throughout his career here. Not exactly what I'd call protecting your franchise QB and most important asset. Incompetence bordering on criminally negligent from this joke of an organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yes, Darnold had a bad game but he’s only 22, has played 16 games, has an awful Oline, a HC with a losing record, average WRs and no TEs. Even the all pro RB who would of been a HOFer is currently struggling. The same people who were claiming he was headed to the HOF last week are now wanting him cut. Get a ****ing grip already FFS. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: When you are flustered as a QB, there are not many good outcomes Yes but there are outcomes that don't include chucking the ball up for grabs into the #1 ranked pass defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ohhthepain said: If this season continues on it's current path, Sam is likely to have his 3rd head coach and 3rd new offense in 3 years. Absolutely no stability. Hes had below average weapons on offense, and an absolutley terrible offensive line throughout his career here. Not exactly what I'd call protecting your franchise QB and most important asset. Incompetence bordering on criminally negligent from this joke of an organization. Hey we picked 3rd overall (again), and decided to draft our 5th 1st round 3-4 DE/DT since 2011. You know the fat kid who plays 20% of the snaps because he doesn’t fit the scheme we run. The one who missed almost a month with a strained ankle. The one with no sacks and little to no impact. Yes let’s not build around our second year QB. Let’s throw him to the wolf’s, and set this franchise back to the Stone Age. We are basically an expansion team at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: There's no data out there that proves Sam isn't part of the problem right now...can't call him a bust yet, can't say hes our surefire Franchise QB yet.....we don't know what he is at this time.....anyone who tries to tell you otherwise doesn't know themselves they only think they do.... We've seen him play well at times.....however, as much as I like Sam, I would be lying if I didn't mention that his penchant for chucking the ball recklessly and turning it over when he's flustered is at least concerning..... The Kid had a long string WITHOUT turning it over before he was picked late in the Dallas game...and then well...he was part of maybe the worst game played (by the entire roster) in Jet history...and that is very difficult to do being that there are so many. He has really upped his game since the day he came back from injury last year overall. But it’s now, unfortunately, a possibility that he gets ruined. That he is on his 3rd OC in 3 years. That Gase is the Fraud many said he was. And if he is, I just don’t get how the guy was able to finagle getting 1 of the only 32 of those jobs in the entire world....TWICE...this is a guy who never played football personally at a level higher than High School. It’s almost as though Peyton Manning was drunk with his friends, picked up the phone, and before calling Chris Johnson said “watch me f*ck the Jets over again”..and they all laughed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, JTJet said: You lost everyone on this board when you mentioned Vinny and Chad in the same post as Mark and Geno. Just stop. Not only that, if VT did not blow his Achilles in week 1, we would be calling him the second greatest QB in NJ history because they win the 1999-2000 SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: That's pretty a stupid comment by Eisen. That some fans think a QB, who has played well, is done after one bad game is mind boggling He has "played well" in 25% of the games he has played. Hes trending the wrong way. It is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I believe darnold can be a great quarterback but even if he hits his ceiling he will be the type of quarterback that is going to periodically lay an egg. The most important thing is that he comes back and bounces back from these terrible games, if he can do that then he will be a franchise qb if he gets stuck on games like last week then we will need to cut ties and try again.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: I'm not even beginning to write off Darnold but there is no excusing his terrible MNF performance. I encourage you to watch these: not to say that he wasn't the problem because he was... Many times but just watch these: 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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