The cold, hard truth - Gase is now ruining Darnold

[TNJet]

Fck Peyton too. Bastard.

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Adam Gase just doesn't have ANY talent to work with. No one can be successful under these circumstances. I'm really not sure if Gase is a good HC, not really defending him here? I just want to see how good he can be with a competent team under his direction. Right now he's forced to coach a pop warner team against pro competition.

The offense was better when Jeremy Bates -- a guy we plucked off the Appalachian Trail -- was running things. 

The talent is bad and needs to be upgraded. But the idea that we cannot judge Gase when he's demonstrably made the offense worse is nonsense, IMO.

[BallinPB]

3 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Adam Gase just doesn't have ANY talent to work with. No one can be successful under these circumstances. I'm really not sure if Gase is a good HC, not really defending him here? I just want to see how good he can be with a competent team under his direction. Right now he's forced to coach a pop warner team against pro competition.

I’m sure he’s not a good coach based off his years of experience of not being a good coach.  

[Warfish]

3 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Adam Gase just doesn't have ANY talent to work with.

True, Gase is pretty talentless, as his entire post-Manning resume shows.

[JustInFudge]

They both suck which is nice because at least they have each other. 

[funaz]

I think the issue is Darnold is just not good, and Gase isn't a great coach he's certainly better than bowled was.

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[LSJF]

1 hour ago, Drums said:

Hate to be that guy but you could have easily posted this and discussed it in the game thread. 

Maybe we don’t feel like wading through 85 pages  at least this gets to the point...Mind your own business

[CrazyCarl40]

17 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Adam Gase just doesn't have ANY talent to work with. No one can be successful under these circumstances. I'm really not sure if Gase is a good HC, not really defending him here? I just want to see how good he can be with a competent team under his direction. Right now he's forced to coach a pop warner team against pro competition.

Right. They didn’t go out and get Leveon Bell and Crowder. 

[rammagen]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

This offense is all-time bad. Decide for yourself who is to blame.

we did and that is Gase as well he has made no adjustments to really help them on any constant basis

[rammagen]

1 hour ago, ItsTheSameOldJets said:

GASE needs to go asap, fire him mid season for all I care. 

Beat me to it Gase is horrid and he has ruined Sam

[CSNY]

If this continues Gase will turn Sam Darnold into David Carr who had a lot of talent but was beaten up and shell shocked behind a woeful O Line in Texas and poor coaching 

[Ohhthepain]

Macagnan shoulders most of the blame for this one 

[rammagen]

[jetswinbaby!]

Ask yourself this question:

Would you be concerned if the Jets fired Gase tomorrow and that this genius might be swept up by an arch division rival?

No?

That's is the answer... Fire him today!

[jetspenguin]

The worst case scenario is happening.  The only thing we can't allow to happen.  The QB we all waited eons for looks lost, scared and his fundamentals are eroding before our eyes.
We can't let this happen.  I blame Gase.  And I want him gone.
I am lost to understand how anyone on this board can say anything in his defense.  I have no sympathy for you apologists.  I have no patience to listen to your absurd analysis that Gase needs more time for this or that reason.  He's inept.
 
 

I thought you left? No??

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[BettyBoop]

31 minutes ago, NYJ1 said:

Adam Gase just doesn't have ANY talent to work with. No one can be successful under these circumstances. I'm really not sure if Gase is a good HC, not really defending him here? I just want to see how good he can be with a competent team under his direction. Right now he's forced to coach a pop warner team against pro competition.

He has more talent than Bates had last year.  Bell and Crowder are way, way better than what they had last year.  The OL are basically the same players.  Play calling is the difference.  It sucks!

[JA33]

That he is. But the owners won’t fire this guy anytime soon. This guru is a joke that not one is laughing at! 

[BettyBoop]

10 minutes ago, rammagen said:

we did and that is Gase as well he has made no adjustments to really help them on any constant basis

I disagree.  Gase adjusted in the first drive to get the ball out quickly and it worked.  Then he inexplicably changed to deep drops by Darnold and he got crucified back there.  Gase then went back to quick releases and it worked again.  Then he went back to deep drops!  HORRIBLE PLAY CALLING.

[WowOhWow]

Adam Gase's last 10 games as an NFL head coach 1-9, 8 total offensive touchdowns.  

Please explain to me why anyone wants this guy around?

If someone can make a compelling argument I will literally change my tune and shut up and go away.

The guy is 1-9.  His offenses don't score.

I said it in another thread that was ripped apart by the apologists...NFL offense has passed Gase by.  It's been a looooong time since anything he's been associated has been good.  Look it up.

[rammagen]

3 minutes ago, BettyBoop said:

I disagree.  Gase adjusted in the first drive to get the ball out quickly and it worked.  Then he inexplicably changed to deep drops by Darnold and he got crucified back there.  Gase then went back to quick releases and it worked again.  Then he went back to deep drops!  HORRIBLE PLAY CALLING.

If you adjust and then go back is that adjusting to the defense or just throwing crap against the wall to se if it sticks. If he adjusted he should have continued with what is working. This was another knock of him in Miami

[ZachEY]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Is it, perhaps, reasonable consider that they weren't very good in the first place?

Nah, he was really good last year in a couple games.

[Mac-Attack]

Every year year , new coach , new quarterback.  The curse is forever  embedded in  this  team 

[Grandy]

Gase is ruining Darnold

Darnold is also ruining Darnold.

[rammagen]

I am tired of Gase's post game conference he says the same thing

[Bomberjet]

I don't know what everyone else is seeing, but just about 95% of the time Darnold is dropping back, the entire OL is collapsing faster than he can decide what to do.  Even when he hands off the ball, the opponents D always seems to be in the backfield.

That's not to say that Darnold is not without blame , but constant pressure every time with the ball is going to rear it's ugly head on any QB, much less one that only played 17 games in his short carreer.

Fact is the OL is MUCH worse than what we have anticipated - I think the one decision that has to be made is FIRE the OL coach.  But Gase will look bad with that move, it's his man he has to can.

[BurnleyJet]

Honestly, Darnold is already ruined. I’m beyond distressed with this team. We have nothing, no hope **** all.

We have nine more game to endure. I’d just sit him, trade Bell, Adams Williams. I’d out tank the Dolphins.

[Viermoo]

2 hours ago, Drums said:

Hate to be that guy but you could have easily posted this and discussed it in the game thread. 

Why do you care if someone starts a new thread? It’s amazing what people complain about.

[fullblast]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

Jets: “We’re the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the league. Have very little talent on the roster and will not stand for this!”

Also Jets: “Let’s keep our GM, even though he’s missed on 90%+ of his picks and additions. We’ll fix this problem by hiring the coach from the only team we know for a fact was worse than ours.”

... And who still swept us.

[Sonny Werblin]

A HC can’t come to the podium week after week and talk about cleaning up the same mistakes. He’s the HC. Those are his mistakes. 
 

save sam, fire gase

[Y2jets]

2 hours ago, WowOhWow said:

The worst case scenario is happening.  The only thing we can't allow to happen.  The QB we all waited eons for looks lost, scared and his fundamentals are eroding before our eyes.

We can't let this happen.  I blame Gase.  And I want him gone.

I am lost to understand how anyone on this board can say anything in his defense.  I have no sympathy for you apologists.  I have no patience to listen to your absurd analysis that Gase needs more time for this or that reason.  He's inept.

 

 

The proof is right here. Bates had Darnold playing much better with the same amount, well actually less talent around him!!!

[Y2jets]

7 minutes ago, Viermoo said:

Why do you care if someone starts a new thread? It’s amazing what people complain about.

100% agree. People that post this are looking for attention. If you don't like it, don't read it.

[Bomberjet]

Gase has to take responsibility, no question.

It doesn't take a football genius to recognize a stacked defense that the Patriots and Jacksonville exhibited to not know that when a blitz is on it's way, make the adjustment for the 1-2 WR's or tight end to find the gap and do crossing pattern, or TE go in motion to help block, or even have Darnold  do a bootleg? Have we even seen that these last 2 games?

Now I know what Tannehill had to go thru, and the proof of it is that he's thriving in Tennessee.

 

[Y2jets]

32 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Adam Gase's last 10 games as an NFL head coach 1-9, 8 total offensive touchdowns.  

Please explain to me why anyone wants this guy around?

If someone can make a compelling argument I will literally change my tune and shut up and go away.

The guy is 1-9.  His offenses don't score.

I said it in another thread that was ripped apart by the apologists...NFL offense has passed Gase by.  It's been a looooong time since anything he's been associated has been good.  Look it up.

The next banner that needs to fly is not Fire Gase or fire another GM, it's "SELL THE TEAM NOW!" 

Worst owners in sports

[Drums]

33 minutes ago, Viermoo said:

Why do you care if someone starts a new thread? It’s amazing what people complain about.

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[Pennington]

This damn organization is good for nothing. We finally have a potential franchise QB and we are on the verge of ruining him due to terrible coaching, an embarrassing offensive line and a complete lack of playmakers.

This offseason needs to be all about getting the best out of this QB.  Hire a real coach that will get the best out of Darnold and draft a ton of offensive linemen. Hopefully Douglas is the exact opposite of Maccagnan or we are doomed.