Barry McCockinner Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Cut incoming? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 He still wont he cut. Hes under contract for another year or 2. Worse case they still trade him just not for as much as they originally wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Giants 3rd. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app24:25:31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, LockeJET said: He still wont he cut. Hes under contract for another year or 2. Worse case they still trade him just not for as much as they originally wanted. They can't trade him until after the season now as the deadline passed. I don't know if this is the angle they're taking but they may be using it as a way to void things in his contract to make him cutable. Kind of like we did with Osemele and the Raiders did with AB. Is cutable a word? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Is this like the conditioning test? If so, maybe it just means they want to give him some crap and make him suffer. "Nope, sorry, not good enough. Come on back tomorrow and we'll run some more gassers." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, thshadow said: Is this like the conditioning test? If so, maybe it just means they want to give him some crap and make him suffer. "Nope, sorry, not good enough. Come on back tomorrow and we'll run some more gassers." He failed his physical because it hurt when he put his helmet on. Can't make this kind of stuff up, yet many here wanted to trade a first rounder for him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Was he injured before or just sitting out? If he was just sitting out after he failed to force a trade and decides to come back so he can get paid an wash says, forget it? Is that the gist of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: They can't trade him until after the season now as the deadline passed. I don't know if this is the angle they're taking but they may be using it as a way to void things in his contract to make him cutable. Kind of like we did with Osemele and the Raiders did with AB. Is cutable a word? The difference is Osemele wasn't worth a bag of chips even when healthy. He was terrible abd got benched. Trent can get in shape and will be traded this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 When I heard he was ending his holdout, and returning to the Redskins, my first reaction was, if I'm them, sitting there with one win, why do I need to pay him however many million he gets now? Here's my question. When a guy like this decides to return halfway through the season after a holdout, does the team have any other option besides cutting him? Can they just tell him, "no, you sitting out is a big reason we're in this predicament, see you next year..." Is the failed physical thing always legit, or is it an arbitrary decision each individual team decides whether a player passes or not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Was he injured before or just sitting out? If he was just sitting out after he failed to force a trade and decides to come back so he can get paid an wash says, forget it? Is that the gist of it? He had some type of growth on his head and that is why he was blaming the Washington staff. Now he says it hurts when he puts a helmet on and failed his physical. Connect the dots. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, RobR said: He failed his physical because it hurt when he put his helmet on. Can't make this kind of stuff up, yet many here wanted to trade a first rounder for him. This is all a ruse because he doesn't want to play for the Skins. He could have tried on a helmet anytime over the last several weeks... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 He failed the physical because his helmet was uncomfortable. Basically, it's nonsense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, Tiffany980 said: This is all a ruse because he doesn't want to play for the Skins. He could have tried on a helmet anytime over the last several weeks... See my post above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Was he injured before or just sitting out? If he was just sitting out after he failed to force a trade and decides to come back so he can get paid an wash says, forget it? Is that the gist of it? He was misdiagnosed by the Redskins quacks. He had a some sort of growth on his head and the doctors screwed it up. He told the team to either fire the medical staff or he wouldn't play for them. You guys aren't the only team being run by clowns... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Cut incoming? Trent Williams doesn't want to play for the Redskins. But he also wants to get paid. Therefore, he has the brain pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, RobR said: See my post above. So, while I was responding, you posted. Fans from 2 different teams acknowledge the same facts. Honestly, it doesn't happen often... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Cut incoming? He passed... but failed because a helmet issue... It hurt his head or something... The redskins are just looking for reasons not to pay him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Skeptable said: He passed... but failed because a helmet issue... It hurt his head or something... The redskins are just looking for reasons not to pay him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The NFL has turned into a MTV reality show 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The only way the NFL will work is if you play players by the snap. Guaranteed base, plus playing time, injured or not. Bonus for performance. After being abused for years the players have now been weaponized, politicized and corrupted. The traditional NFL fan base will get frustrated. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, varjet said: The only way the NFL will work is if you play players by the snap. Guaranteed base, plus playing time, injured or not. Bonus for performance. After being abused for years the players have now been weaponized, politicized and corrupted. The traditional NFL fan base will get frustrated. Trumaine Johnson is the perfect example. Of course Macc took the bait & now GW has to deal with a guy that gets paid trotting around and feigning sprained ankles after he benched him. Still gets his weekly check. TJ makes approximately 1 million a tackle & we wonder why we suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Does he actually have a growth on his HEAD? How big is this growth? That sounds hella creepy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, ryu79 said: Does he actually have a growth on his HEAD? How big is this growth? That sounds hella creepy. Yes, he had it removed but the swelling hasn't gone down. The team is looking to get a new helmet for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Giants 3rd. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 24:25:31 Great idea. Osemele wasn't enough. Let's trade for another injured OL so we can have another circus atmosphere on the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 hours ago, RobR said: He failed his physical because it hurt when he put his helmet on. Can't make this kind of stuff up, yet many here wanted to trade a first rounder for him. I'm sure you have some that still do...and will advocate for signing him if he's cut so the Jets can go through another player who doesn't want to play, but wants to be paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Great idea. Osemele wasn't enough. Let's trade for another injured OL so we can have another circus atmosphere on the team Very different situation. Osmele stunk, got benched. Williams was still playing at an elite level. Right now we need linemen - it's our single highest priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, peebag said: Yes, he had it removed but the swelling hasn't gone down. The team is looking to get a new helmet for him. Umm... then I am relieved we didn't trade for a dude with an unresolved head injury and hope he gets treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Sounds like a perfect fit. Do Jets offensive linemen really even need helmets? Maybe just a neck brace to prevent injury as you swing your head around to watch the defender blow past you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Very different situation. Osmele stunk, got benched. Williams was still playing at an elite level. Right now we need linemen - it's our single highest priority. How about signing one that passes a physical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: How about signing one that passes a physical? Tell Williams he makes $500k for every game he starts and finishes, and an extra $250K per game that is PFF is greater than XX. Then give him a bonus for Pro Bowl, All Pro, Playoff appearances, Playoff wins, etc. I think you will see that growth suddenly go away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, varjet said: Tell Williams he makes $500k for every game he starts and finishes, and an extra $250K per game that is PFF is greater than XX. Then give him a bonus for Pro Bowl, All Pro, Playoff appearances, Playoff wins, etc. I think you will see that growth suddenly go away. Trent Williams played through the same injury Kelechi Osemele had a torn labrum in his shoulder requiring season ending surgery except he didn't get the surgery, 2 years in a row, played hurt about 10 games hurt each year now he's 30. this isn't all about money and it's not about loyalty. The Skins drs are butchers and Trent lost trust in them along the way. the organization (like the Jets) have no clue about how to win or what it takes He will probably get traded in the offseason for like a 2nd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 18 hours ago, Tiffany980 said: So, while I was responding, you posted. Fans from 2 different teams acknowledge the same facts. Honestly, it doesn't happen often... Do you think the Tom Brady to San Diego rumors have legs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, varjet said: Tell Williams he makes $500k for every game he starts and finishes, and an extra $250K per game that is PFF is greater than XX. Then give him a bonus for Pro Bowl, All Pro, Playoff appearances, Playoff wins, etc. I think you will see that growth suddenly go away. Everyone's answer is to sign them to a contract that it incentivized. How often do deals like the one you just described are actually executed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Everyone's answer is to sign them to a contract that it incentivized. How often do deals like the one you just described are actually executed? Not very often. But I am asking if they should be more common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 19 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Giants 3rd. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 24:25:31 If we were 3-4 or 4-3 I'd be all for it. But the guy is 31 and we aren't doing anything this year. Let's hold on to the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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