SummerofSam14 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 It’s crazy all the negativity coming from Jets fans on twitter and the message board. The QB & Offense struggled as expected and certainly left some points on the board, but in a winning effort it’s tough to kill them. I swear there are some fans that think the only player on the team that matters is Sam Darnold. Defensively the Jets are probably a couple of pass rushers away from having an elite unit. It’s an absolute shame they are paying CJ Mosely all this money, because Jame Burgess is playing the Mike role at an exceptionally high level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Thank You!!!! The Jets defense has been magic this year based upon the talent on the field!! Greg Williams has done as good a job as any DC we have ever had here; folks even suggesting that he be let go are delusional!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: suggesting that he be let go i dont recall this. the idea has been floated that he might get a nibble as a hc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Yes, I was behind Buddy's Boy from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Greg Williams coaching a bunch of scrubs to a quality level has been the only thing to really get excited about this year. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 If Austin can stay healthy and develop and QW can develop and Mosely finally stay healthy im not a big Jordan Jenkins fan but we have to resign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: If Austin can stay healthy and develop and QW can develop and Mosely finally stay healthy im not a big Jordan Jenkins fan but we have to resign him Agree across the board. Losing Adams would hurt but I get it if it’s a first round pick. I’m also gonna optimistically add Williamson for next year too. And hope they can keep Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SummerofSam14 said: It’s crazy all the negativity coming from Jets fans on twitter and the message board. The QB & Offense struggled as expected and certainly left some points on the board, but in a winning effort it’s tough to kill them. I swear there are some fans that think the only player on the team that matters is Sam Darnold. Defensively the Jets are probably a couple of pass rushers away from having an elite unit. It’s an absolute shame they are paying CJ Mosely all this money, because Jame Burgess is playing the Mike role at an exceptionally high level. Good post. All we hear is Darnold, Darnold. Just like this guy who started this thread about half an hour after the win. Nerve of some “ fans !” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I'm excited that we don't have to draft DL for at least 2 years, does that count? Otherwise we're extremely thin on CB and Passrusher, two of the most important positions for defense. And those take a back seat to offense this draft. At passrusher we're essentially back to 2005 when we let Abraham go - still searching. CB we need two more. Hopefully you fill that in free agency, but you just don't know. Also if Greg Williams leaves I doubt this group will perform as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, talisaynon said: I'm excited that we don't have to draft DL for at least 2 years, does that count? Otherwise we're extremely thin on CB and Passrusher, two of the most important positions for defense. And those take a back seat to offense this draft. At passrusher we're essentially back to 2005 when we let Abraham go - still searching. CB we need two more. Hopefully you fill that in free agency, but you just don't know. Also if Greg Williams leaves I doubt this group will perform as well. Since Brady is retiring after this season or at least going to San Diego I would say edge rusher is not as big a need as what we ignored or botched the past 15 years we can beat Josh Allen, Jared Stidham and whatever piece of crap Miami will start at Qb next year without a demonic edge rusher We need WR, OL and CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: Thank You!!!! The Jets defense has been magic this year based upon the talent on the field!! Greg Williams has done as good a job as any DC we have ever had here; folks even suggesting that he be let go are delusional!! Nice to see and hear Marcus Mayes name..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WowOhWow Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I've been very impressed with how physical and interchangable our defensive front has been. Foley, Sheppard, Phillips, McClendon, Q, etc. There are a lot of dudes up there that are playing really hard every down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, SummerofSam14 said: It’s crazy all the negativity coming from Jets fans on twitter and the message board. The QB & Offense struggled as expected and certainly left some points on the board, but in a winning effort it’s tough to kill them. I swear there are some fans that think the only player on the team that matters is Sam Darnold. Defensively the Jets are probably a couple of pass rushers away from having an elite unit. It’s an absolute shame they are paying CJ Mosely all this money, because Jame Burgess is playing the Mike role at an exceptionally high level. Elite? How about consistently good? Is it too much to ask for our fans to temper their delusions of grandeur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, HessStation said: Greg Williams coaching a bunch of scrubs to a quality level has been the only thing to really excited about this year. This... and in doing so, he's also dispelled the notion that we need the front-7 to be loaded with top 10 picks. Now, maybe we can spend those picks on offense since it's 2020 and scoring is all that matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Since Brady is retiring after this season or at least going to San Diego I would say edge rusher is not as big a need as what we ignored or botched the past 15 years we can beat Josh Allen, Jared Stidham and whatever piece of crap Miami will start at Qb next year without a demonic edge rusher We need WR, OL and CB What’s in San Diego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, SummerofSam14 said: It’s crazy all the negativity coming from Jets fans on twitter and the message board. The QB & Offense struggled as expected and certainly left some points on the board, but in a winning effort it’s tough to kill them. I swear there are some fans that think the only player on the team that matters is Sam Darnold. Defensively the Jets are probably a couple of pass rushers away from having an elite unit. It’s an absolute shame they are paying CJ Mosely all this money, because Jame Burgess is playing the Mike role at an exceptionally high level. CJ Mosley will be a wrecking crew out there... Its unfortunate he got injured because he is their best defense player. Maybe Adams took over that role now but Mosley is all over the field and prove he was worth every dime next year. Fans on this board don't quite understand what he brings to the table because of how this year went down. GW did a lot to adapt with Mosley going down, which I think speaks more to the level of how good GW is as a coach then how good or bad Mosley is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Props to Blake Cashman and Bless Austin this season. They were good draft picks on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 They need at least two corners and a good pass rusher before we can elevate them to top ten. Right now they’re solid. But they did get crushed by Andy Dalton and Ryan Fitzmagic so let’s no go overboard. With so many holes on the offense the defense will likely have to forego any major upgrades next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said: They need at least two corners and a good pass rusher before we can elevate them to top ten. Right now they’re solid. But they did get crushed by Andy Dalton and Ryan Fitzmagic so let’s no go overboard. With so many holes on the offense the defense will likely have to forego any major upgrades next season. This is true, they are going to need to pull a starter out (hopefully) in the 3rd \ 4th round. I thought Bless Austin could start next year, yesterday he got benched so not sure what the future holds there. But the front seven is fine when everyone comes back. So CB is the only thing they have to find a way to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerofSam14 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Maxman said: This is true, they are going to need to pull a starter out (hopefully) in the 3rd \ 4th round. I thought Bless Austin could start next year, yesterday he got benched so not sure what the future holds there. But the front seven is fine when everyone comes back. So CB is the only thing they have to find a way to improve. I loved the benching. These guys know Williams will yank you no matter who you are if you aren’t getting the job done. It’s a far cry from the Bowels regime in that regard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Thank You!!!! The Jets defense has been magic this year based upon the talent on the field!! Greg Williams has done as good a job as any DC we have ever had here; folks even suggesting that he be let go are delusional!! I have not seen one post suggesting GW be let go, where are you getting this from? I am mostly reading that GW should be promoted to HC and Gase be let go, which I have no problem with btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Maxman said: This is true, they are going to need to pull a starter out (hopefully) in the 3rd \ 4th round. I thought Bless Austin could start next year, yesterday he got benched so not sure what the future holds there. But the front seven is fine when everyone comes back. So CB is the only thing they have to find a way to improve. The back of his jersey looked real good yesterday as we saw so much of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I like the Jets defense. Add Byron Jones to play opposite Bless Austin and re-sign Pool. Hairston, Mauler and Roberts as depth behind those 3 gives you decent spot starters and great depth without using a draft pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Thank You!!!! The Jets defense has been magic this year based upon the talent on the field!! Greg Williams has done as good a job as any DC we have ever had here; folks even suggesting that he be let go are delusional!! Defense overachieved. Offense underachieved, although slightly IMO given the loss of WR2, both TEs, a horrid OLine and a roster that wasn't very good to begin with. I do wonder how the O would look if just say two spots on the OLine were better and we had Enunwa, Herndon for the year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, southparkcpa said: Nice to see and hear Marcus Mayes name..... maye made a couple of really nice plays. nice to see a jets secondary player hang onto an int. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Corner FA pool is deep. I'd keep Poole and add another outside guy to go along with Bless. Gregg has done a great job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 It will feel like we're drafting new talent simply by having guys like Mosley, Cashman, Avery Williamson, etc. return from injury next year. But, as always, we still need at LEAST one more CB and an Edge rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: It will feel like we're drafting new talent simply by having guys like Mosley, Cashman, Avery Williamson, etc. return from injury next year. But, as always, we still need at LEAST one more CB and an Edge rusher. This, and OL WR TE others as well. This is gonna take a lil time to put together I think the Jets could be a close to complete team in a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: It will feel like we're drafting new talent simply by having guys like Mosley, Cashman, Avery Williamson, etc. return from injury next year. But, as always, we still need at LEAST one more CB and an Edge rusher. Unless they find an edge rusher in free agency, it will still be a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 If we keep Williams, absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: This, and OL WR TE others as well. This is gonna take a lil time to put together I think the Jets could be a close to complete team in a couple of years. Had a chance to make a significant dent in the needs last year. I wanted the Jets to jump on Josh Allen at #3 and then go Center in the 3rd round. Your list is 100% correct but I'd put OL and WR ahead of anything on D. TE would be nice but I do think that a healthy Herndon, Griffin (who just got extended) and Wesco (who can block and needs to be used more) are about all we can hope for right now. TE is much lower on the list for me. Without knowing who will be there in the Draft when we pick I still know the positional flow I wouldn't mind seeing... OL, WR, OL, CB, OL, Edge, WR, OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: This, and OL WR TE others as well. This is gonna take a lil time to put together I think the Jets could be a close to complete team in a couple of years. I would say with Herndon and Griffin plus Wesco we are fine at TE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I'm excited about the DC, GW, who has gotten more out of a very banged up unit made up of many 3rd and 4th stringers than our previous 2 HC defensive masterminds with healthy first rounders everywhere. For that I give thanks: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Had a chance to make a significant dent in the needs last year. I wanted the Jets to jump on Josh Allen at #3 and then go Center in the 3rd round. Your list is 100% correct but I'd put OL and WR ahead of anything on D. TE would be nice but I do think that a healthy Herndon, Griffin (who just got extended) and Wesco (who can block and needs to be used more) are about all we can hope for right now. TE is much lower on the list for me. Without knowing who will be there in the Draft when we pick I still know the positional flow I wouldn't mind seeing... OL, WR, OL, CB, OL, Edge, WR, OL your list is spot on in terms of need and i think the first 3-4 picks will look a lot like your prediction. Getting an edge rusher in the 5th round isnt likely to add anything we dont already have-Id just go BPA after the third round 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: I would say with Herndon and Griffin plus Wesco we are fine at TE I like Griffin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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