BettyBoop Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Breakdown of Chief's starting offense: Pat Mahommes - 1st round Tyreek Hill - 5th round Damien Williams - UDFA Sammy Watkins - 1st round DeMarcus Robinson - 4th round Travis Kelce - 3rd round Eric Fisher - 1st round Martinas Rankin - 3rd round Austin Reiter - 7th round Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - 6th round Mitchell Schwartz - 2nd round The OL is made up of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and late rounders. WR are a mix of early and later round picks. RB not premium picks. It can be done. Douglas has a lot of work to do but it's there for the taking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2020 Every time a team wins a SB there's someone creating a thread on how to mimic that team. It gets old. 9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jets723 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Chiefs did a great job for sure but you can’t intentionally try to mimic another team because it tends to backfire. We just have to make smart decisions. We have some good pieces in place but the OL is the main priority. Even in the Super Bowl when you can see how important protection is. When the 49ers were pressuring Mahomes he was a completely different QB. So that the top priority. This draft also is pretty deep in WR so with a bit of luck and smart decision making you can get a good weapon for Sam. We have to make a decision on Bell who was disappointing. It wasn’t all his fault obviously since the OL sucked and Gase really didn’t use him effectively. But we gotta decide if he will bounce back and Gase will use him correctly. Like I said before one good offseason changes everything. It’s a shame we had so many injuries last year because it would have been a much different season but nothing we can do about that now. I think we are in for some good times ahead. Let’s Go Jets!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 imo, the team to mimic are the niners. the chiefs have that wunderkind at qb plus decent offensive players. the rest of the team isn't that great. the niners are way more balanced and have both a good offense and defense. also the niners lost that game more than the chiefs winning it. they easily could've played a rope a dope running game after mahomes 2nd int and run the clock out. they didn't. and then they had t have garapollo win it for them which he was incapable of doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, rangerous said: imo, the team to mimic are the niners. the chiefs have that wunderkind at qb plus decent offensive players. the rest of the team isn't that great. the niners are way more balanced and have both a good offense and defense. also the niners lost that game more than the chiefs winning it. they easily could've played a rope a dope running game after mahomes 2nd int and run the clock out. they didn't. and then they had t have garapollo win it for them which he was incapable of doing. I'd say that the Chiefs offensive players are considerably better than "decent," but I do agree that the 49ers are a more realistic team to model. Mahomes is a generational talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Every time a team wins a SB there's someone creating a thread on how to mimic that team. It gets old. Correct. A lot of different formulas have resulted in a SB title. Great defense/power running game (e.g. 2000 Ravens), explosive/high flying passing game (1999 Rams), jack of all trades team (most NE titles), etc. Let's start by drafting a some really good players at impact positions (OT, OG, WR, OLB, CB) and take it from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Well they have Honey Badger so at least we have that part covered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Correct. A lot of different formulas have resulted in a SB title. Great defense/power running game (e.g. 2000 Ravens), explosive/high flying passing game (1999 Rams), jack of all trades team (most NE titles), etc. Let's start by drafting a some really good players at impact positions (OT, OG, WR, OLB, CB) and take it from there. I'm just thankful the Niners didn't win this game. Then we'd be set up for months of "YOU CAN WIN BY RUNNING THE BALL STILL" and disgusting Rex fetish/lust posts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Sign Conklin and Vaitai, transition tag Anderson, trade a 4th (or a guy like Williamson) for a guy like Ethan Pocic, resign Lewis, draft a LT like Wirfs in the first, and a wr like Jalen Reagor in the 2nd. Anderson Wirfs Lewis Pocic Vaitai Conklin Herndon Crowder Reagor Darnold Bell You should be able to win with that. Thats as close to the Chiefs as I can get in a year. Use the 2 3rd rounders on an edge rusher and a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Quote Building The NY Chiefs We pretty much already are the Chiefs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1st - OT 2nd - WR 3rd - C 3rd - WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Best offensive coaching mind in the NFL + most talented QB in the NFL (that the Jets passed on) + fastest WR in the NFL + best TE in the NFL. Before Mahomes, the Chiefs were 12-4 and made the playoffs with Alex Smith. I would be trying to replicate the 49ers, or Steelers, or Packers at this stage. I don't think Darnold brings what Mahomes can bring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Build a top 5 OL and a top 5 pass rush and we’ll be in it every year with Darnold 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Every time a team wins a SB there's someone creating a thread on how to mimic that team. It gets old. why don't you start a trade JA thread for some fresh content? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Sign Conklin It's bizarre that anyone thinks that: 1) The Titans will actually let Conklin hit FA AND 2) We'd just automatically be able to sign him. Lots of NFL teams have OL needs AND lots of cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Watkins, Schwartz and Damien Williams were free agents. Who cares what round they were drafted in? They got Reiter on waivers and signed Wiesnewski and Wylie off the street. Rankin was hurt, but he came in a trade. We need to draft better, but filling in with free agents and mini-draft players has never been an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I'd say that the Chiefs offensive players are considerably better than "decent," but I do agree that the 49ers are a more realistic team to model. Mahomes is a generational talent. i'm not saying mahomes isn't a great qb at the moment or won't be in the foreseeable future but i think it depends on what is meant by generational. just a few weeks ago lamar jackson was a generational talent. what kind of time span? if it's 5 years or maybe even 10 then mahomes can be considered generational. if you go out much longer then there are guys like rodgers, or brees or even brady that fit the bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, BettyBoop said: Breakdown of Chief's starting offense: Pat Mahommes - 1st round Tyreek Hill - 5th round Damien Williams - UDFA Sammy Watkins - 1st round DeMarcus Robinson - 4th round Travis Kelce - 3rd round Eric Fisher - 1st round Martinas Rankin - 3rd round Austin Reiter - 7th round Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - 6th round Mitchell Schwartz - 2nd round The OL is made up of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and late rounders. WR are a mix of early and later round picks. RB not premium picks. It can be done. Douglas has a lot of work to do but it's there for the taking. Sammy was brought in as a FA. You should ranke the starters by how they were aquired. Still, shows a nice balance of finding talent in all rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, rangerous said: i'm not saying mahomes isn't a great qb at the moment or won't be in the foreseeable future but i think it depends on what is meant by generational. just a few weeks ago lamar jackson was a generational talent. what kind of time span? if it's 5 years or maybe even 10 then mahomes can be considered generational. if you go out much longer then there are guys like rodgers, or brees or even brady that fit the bill. I wouldn’t call Mahomes a generational player just yet, but I would double down on the generational talent label. He is basically the best combination of arm strength, arm speed, accuracy, and mobility that I have seen since . . . ? (Not sure) Whether he can sustain his level of excellence for a full career 10-15 year career remains to be seen, but if he stays healthy, I like his chances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Every time a team wins a SB there's someone creating a thread on how to mimic that team. It gets old. To add to that, the teams that won SB's afterward didnt mimic the old winners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I wouldn’t call Mahomes a generational player just yet, but I would double down on the generational talent label. He is basically the best combination of arm strength, arm speed, accuracy, and mobility that I have seen since . . . ? (Not sure) Whether he can sustain his level of excellence for a full career 10-15 year career remains to be seen, but if he stays healthy, I like his chances. I agree he off to a great start, League MVP and Super Bowl Champ and MVP and only 24 years old all within a 36 games career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yup build a legendary offense is a year. Sounds simple to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I wouldn’t call Mahomes a generational player just yet, but I would double down on the generational talent label. He is basically the best combination of arm strength, arm speed, accuracy, and mobility that I have seen since . . . ? (Not sure) Whether he can sustain his level of excellence for a full career 10-15 year career remains to be seen, but if he stays healthy, I like his chances. i'd rather have a qb like mahomes instead of a guy like jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's bizarre that anyone thinks that: 1) The Titans will actually let Conklin hit FA AND 2) We'd just automatically be able to sign him. Lots of NFL teams have OL needs AND lots of cap space. No, really? Thanks for stating the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Darnold Bell Herndon Griffin Anderson Watkins Enunwa Crowder Sign Anderson and Watkins and there you go, NY Chiefs. That's one hell of a formidable receiving corps if I do say so myself. Gase could have a lot of fun with that. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, slimjasi said: I'd say that the Chiefs offensive players are considerably better than "decent," but I do agree that the 49ers are a more realistic team to model. Mahomes is a generational talent. so was goff before he wasnt. pretty watkins and others dont really matter. Williams for example. What they drafted was mahomes - crazy talent - and Hill who can beat anyone. BUT THE LINE THE LINE THE LINE. Untill it is unquestionable good, we sshould be spending 2 of the top three picks we have on OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Butterfield said: No, really? Thanks for stating the obvious. Wasn't really directing it at you specifically, even though I quoted you. Lots of posters don't see that being so obvious. They think we'll just have our pick of Conklin or Anthony Constanzo when March rolls around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: so was goff before he wasnt. pretty watkins and others dont really matter. Williams for example. What they drafted was mahomes - crazy talent - and Hill who can beat anyone. BUT THE LINE THE LINE THE LINE. Untill it is unquestionable good, we sshould be spending 2 of the top three picks we have on OL. I’m not sure who thought Goff was a generational talent, but I sure didn’t. Lol agree on the line. Our line isn’t currently good enough to talk seriously about contending for anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: THE LINE THE LINE THE LINE. Untill it is unquestionable good, we sshould be spending 2 of the top three picks we have on OL. Trade Adams so we can grab 2-3 new OL in the first three rounds PLUS a couple other pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Every time a team wins a SB there's someone creating a thread on how to mimic that team. It gets old. So does watching the Jets lose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: I’m not sure who thought Goff was a generational talent, but I sure didn’t. Lol That word gets tossed around too much. I wanted Wentz over Goff but at the time would have been thrilled with either. Doesn't mean they're "generational" talents. Elway was a generational talent, and this was seen as true the moment he entered the draft. Andrew Luck was probably the next one, though of course that didn't work out so well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, New York Mick said: So does watching the Jets lose Those tie in together. The Chiefs are miles ahead of the Jets. It's like they're playing 2 different games. Yet there are people out there who think we're always like 2 offseasons away from becoming an upper echelon team like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: That word gets tossed around too much. I wanted Wentz over Goff but at the time would have been thrilled with either. Doesn't mean they're "generational" talents. Elway was a generational talent, and this was seen as true the moment he entered the draft. Andrew Luck was probably the next one, though of course that didn't work out so well. totally agree. we are talking about Elway, Marino, possibly Peyton, Luck, and Mahomes. (possibly Rogers?) But Mahomes is probably as physically gifted as anyone I have ever seen. This doesn’t mean his career will live up to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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