One Big Fat Jamal Adams Thread, It's All The Same Discussion, Anyway (MERGED ELEVENTY-BILLION)

[jgb]

Just now, #27TheDominator said:

You keep acting like they don't have to sign him.  After this year, he will be making as much as more as a similar player.  They could trade him for picks and sign Logan Ryan.  They would then have the picks .1st for 5 years and whatever else x 4 years. 

It isn't Jamal vs draft picks.  It is Jamal and his salary vs. draft picks + whatever we can sign with that salary.  I am pretty sure you are not so dense that you don't realize this, so I guess you are just antagonizing people.  I'm just not sure who.  80 seems to mild mannered to bother trying to spin up.  

[ZachEY]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Yep. I have a feeling if we trade him both those who want to keep him and those who want to trade him will be disappointed.

I think that's probably true.  Personally, I'd be okay to take less, because in the end, I would not extend him, as I think it's a terrible value play.  And, my feelings is better to get something than just let him walk.

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

Oh.  I guess it was me.  

 

[jgb]

4 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

I think that's probably true.  Personally, I'd be okay to take less, because in the end, I would not extend him, as I think it's a terrible value play.  And, my feelings is better to get something than just let him walk.

Three years before we lose contractual control of him... Not sure the Jets want to send the message that you can sulk your way out of town.

[ZachEY]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

Three years before we lose contractual control of him... Not sure the Jets want to send the message that you can sulk your way out of town.

Yeah, I wouldn't take less than a 1 for him this offseason, betting I could get a better deal at the deadline, maybe.  But, I wouldn't renegotiate with him either.  I have no problem with the hold out.  Next offseason, I might consider a two, depending on where in the 2nd, and what the team needs shape up to be.  But, I'm pretty sure I could get a deal at the deadline this year.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

looks more and more like Adams isn’t going anywhere. 

[HawkeyeJet]

5 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

looks more and more like Adams isn’t going anywhere. 

If there was only 1 potential suitor to begin with, the Jets were likely never going to get enough value back to warrant trading him yet.

It's also worth noting that just because the Cowboys aren't suitors right now, doesn't mean others aren't.  Jamal may want to be a Cowboy, but that doesn't mean they are the only possible destination.

All that said, yes, it doesn't feel like he's getting traded before Thursday.

[T0mShane]

14 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

looks more and more like Adams isn’t going anywhere. 

Impossible. I heard he was a two-time All Pro, game-changing transformational player that everyone loved, and you want to tell me that no other team—not one—would part with a measly coin-flip casino-chip lower-first-round draft pick for his services? Are they not aware of bust rates? Have they not seen the amateur YouTube highlight compilations? 

[TNJet]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Impossible. I heard he was a two-time All Pro, game-changing transformational player that everyone loved, and you want to tell me that no other team—not one—would part with a measly coin-flip casino-chip lower-first-round draft pick for his services? Are they not aware of bust rates? Have they not seen the amateur YouTube highlight compilations? 

Its probably his tweets that turn them off.

[TNJet]

20 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

If there was only 1 potential suitor to begin with, the Jets were likely never going to get enough value back to warrant trading him yet.

It's also worth noting that just because the Cowboys aren't suitors right now, doesn't mean others aren't.  Jamal may want to be a Cowboy, but that doesn't mean they are the only possible destination.

All that said, yes, it doesn't feel like he's getting traded before Thursday.

Call the Cleveland Clowns, they already have 3 annoying overrated Diva's, why not take 1 more and over pay him? Faker, OBLJ, Laundry, and the Prez. Lol call them JD.

[JetsFanatic]

Jets GM Joe Douglas raised his Jamal Adams gushing to another level today while appearing on the Bart & Hahn Show on ESPN NY 98.7. Douglas: "He was a big reason I was excited about coming here. I feel this guy is a core player. ... The main goal that I'm trying to do right now is to surround him with like-minded players, because we know Jamal is a dog. We have to surround him with guys that play as hard as he does, that love football as much as he does and can match his intensity."

 

Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer1m ago

[JetsFanatic]

14 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Impossible. I heard he was a two-time All Pro, game-changing transformational player that everyone loved, and you want to tell me that no other team—not one—would part with a measly coin-flip casino-chip lower-first-round draft pick for his services? Are they not aware of bust rates? Have they not seen the amateur YouTube highlight compilations? 

Only a moron would trade Jamal Adams for just the 17th pick in the draft.

[prime21]

Man how lucky are we that we have a player that is better than Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady???  

Colin must be on the bong!!

 

 

 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Its probably his tweets that turn them off.

Jerry Jones: Alright, Joey. You drive a hard bargain, but you got a...

 

Steve Jones: Hang on, dad. Have you seen these Insta stories?

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Only a moron would trade Jamal Adams for just the 17th pick in the draft.

Exactly! Jerry Jones doesn’t know what he’s missing out on!

[Defense Wins Championships]

I can honestly type here and say that a certain group of Jet fans are absolutely clueless about the history of the NFL and know absolutely nothingness in regards to the importance, value and impact of the NFL SS position (however, I do; and always have). 

And this is because most Jet fans doesn't even know what

A.) Winning Football looks like

and

B.) What a prime HOF SS looks like. 

C.) Because we're um Jet fans, maybe?

Plz genius NY fans, stop talking about the importance of the SS position when you're not qualified to speak on it (to begin with) because believe it or not but...

15 of the NFL's previous 25 SB Winning Teams (.600%) 

Have all featured a Strong Safety with either Pro Bowl, All-Pro and/or Hall of Fame honors on their SB Winning Roster(s).

1.) San Francisco 49ers (1994).

Tim McDonald.

(6x Pro Bowler). 

2.) Dallas Cowboys (1995).

Darren Woodson.

(5x Pro Bowler - 4x All-Pro). 

3.) Green Bay Packers (1996). 

LeRoy Butler.

(4x Pro Bowler - 4x All-Pro).

4.) Denver Broncos (1998).

Tony Braxton. 

(1x Pro Bowler). 

5.) St. Louis Rams (1999). 

Todd Lyght (SS/CB).

(1x Pro Bowl).

6.) N.E Patriots (2001). 

Lawyer Milloy. 

(4x Pro Bowler - 1x All-Pro).

7.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2002). 

John Lynch. 

(9x Pro Bowler - 2x All-Pro).

8.) New England Patriots (2003). 

Rodney Harrison. 

(2x Pro Bowler - 2x All-Pro). 

9.) New England Patriots (2004). 

Rodney Harrison.

(2x Pro Bowler - 2x All-Pro). 

10.) Pittsburgh Steelers (2005). 

Troy Polamalu. 

(8x Pro Bowler - 4x All-Pro). 

11.) Indianapolis Colts (2006).

Bob Sanders.

(2x Pro Bowler - 2x All-Pro). 

12.) Pittsburgh Steelers (2008). 

Troy Polamalu.

(8x Pro Bowler - 4x All-Pro). 

13.) New Orleans Saints (2009). 

Roman Harper. 

(2x Pro Bowler). 

14.) Seattle Seahawks (2013). 

Kam Chancellor. 

(4x Pro Bowler). 

15.) Kansas City Chiefs (2019). 

Tyrann Mathieu.

(1x Pro Bowl - 2x All-Pro). 

15 of the NFL's previous 25 SB Winning Teams (.600%) have all featured a Starting Strong Safety with either Pro Bowl, All-Pro and/or Hall of Fame honors.

Just goes to show how little Jet fans really know about both SB winning teams and the impactful SS position (Jerry Jones knows about both). 

Regardless of which era or which generation we're referring to etc it just doesn't matter; as the SS position has always been a winning position on Defense (and an impactful one too). 

You could even list off great Strong Safety's dating back to the Pittsburgh Steelers of the 1970's Steel Curtain D with Mike Wagner (4x SB Champion & 2x Pro Bowler) @ SS, or the greatest defense of All-Time in the 85' Bears who featured a 3x Pro Bowler in Dave Duerson (SS, 85' Bears) and/or the only undefeated team the 72 Dolphins also had a great one @ SS in Dick Anderson (3x Pro Bowl - 2x All Pro).

Etc. 

The Strong Safety position will always be valued as a historical defensive position although losing (and liar) Jet fans wouldn't know the half. 

A Jets fan trying to tell us all about winning Football and the power of the SS position would be similar to an NY Mets fan trying to tell NY Yankee fans about winning baseball and the power of October baseball; laughable. 

[Guilhermezmc]

49ers, Cleveland, bucs

[freestater]

15 minutes ago, prime21 said:

Man how lucky are we that we have a player that is better than Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady???  

Colin must be on the bong!!

 

 

 

The pure genius of Mike Maccagnan, that's how!

[HawkeyeJet]

5 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

 

Why is everyone of your posts so ****ing long?   

[Scoop24]

52 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

looks more and more like Adams isn’t going anywhere. 

This no surprise they have no money and still gotta get dak done .

[#27TheDominator]

55 minutes ago, freestater said:

The pure genius of Mike Maccagnan, that's how!

Still three guys ahead of him on that list that were sitting there in the 2017 draft when he was taken.

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Why is everyone of your posts so ****ing long?   

History

[HawkeyeJet]

Just now, #27TheDominator said:

History

I don't know the first thing about it.

[T0mShane]

12 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

can honestly type here and say that a certain group of Jet fans are absolutely clueless about the history of the NFL and know absolutely nothingness in regards to the importance, value and impact of the NFL SS position (however, I do; and always have

Every safety you list retired twenty years ago, was a fifth round draft pick, or was picked up off the street as a dumpster-dive free agent.

[slimjasi]

25 minutes ago, prime21 said:

Man how lucky are we that we have a player that is better than Lamar Jackson and Tom Brady???  

Colin must be on the bong!!

 

 

 

Wilson number 1 overall above Mahomes? Mike Evans number 7? 

Colin trolling more than usual 

[Defense Wins Championships]

13 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Jets GM Joe Douglas raised his Jamal Adams gushing to another level today while appearing on the Bart & Hahn Show on ESPN NY 98.7. Douglas: "He was a big reason I was excited about coming here. I feel this guy is a core player. ... The main goal that I'm trying to do right now is to surround him with like-minded players, because we know Jamal is a dog. We have to surround him with guys that play as hard as he does, that love football as much as he does and can match his intensity."

 

Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer1m ago

Joe Douglas is a smart man. 

He was smart enough to decline and reject Jerry Jones' offerings of multiple draft picks including a 1st. 

He's also intelligent enough to not only know but also comprehend that this is not "his locker room" but rather Jamal's locker room; who has welcomed dogs such as Sam Darnold, Le'Veon Bell, C.J Mosley, Marcus Maye, Avery Williamson and Quinnen Williams into HIS locker room with open arms; while still demanding and screaming for more pass rushing dogs (before JD ever arrived into a #33 led locker room).

You see.

When Jamal Adams arrived in NY from a winning culture (LSU) he immediately and instantly (with no hesitation) called out NFL professionals and veterans for having a losing mentality within a losing locker room culture (he absolutely hated our culture once arriving).  

And the Locker room was his from that day on..

You see. 

JD understands he can not trade Adams. Jamal is worth more than "draft picks". Joe Douglas becomes un loyal and trades away our #1 dog? He instantly and immediately loses the heart and soul of not only his defense but his entire locker room. Gregg Williams would then want to strangle both JD & Gase while causing for a locker room divide while players such as Bell, Mosley and yes Darnold will all want out (sooner rather than later). 

JD isn't an idiot in other words. 

Thank you Joe Douglas. For wanting to build around Jamal Adams while @ the same time telling Jerry Jones and Dallas "no thank you". 

Because of you #33 is still a Jet and will retire a JET!

[kdels62]

36 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Every safety you list retired twenty years ago, was a fifth round draft pick, or was picked up off the street as a dumpster-dive free agent.

What @Defense Wins Championships also fails to mention is that all of those guys including the ones that spent most of their careers at CB had at least 6 interceptions after 3 years of starting experience. The only guy on that list who  does not is Bob Sanders who had 3 Ints in like 20 games which is a much higher clip than Jamal Adams.

[ZachEY]

14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Why is everyone of your posts so ****ing long?   

Ever hear the idiom, “Shallow brooks babble loudest?”

[slats]

25 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Etc

If you can’t start trimming down these novellas of yours, my current plan is to ban you ten minutes before the draft. 

16 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Why is everyone of your posts so ****ing long?   

Well, if you can’t dazzle ‘em with brilliance, baffle ‘em with bull****. 

[kdels62]

3 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Joe Douglas is a smart man. 

He was smart enough to decline and reject Jerry Jones' offerings of multiple draft picks including a 1st. 

He's also intelligent enough to not only know but also comprehend that this is not "his locker room" but rather Jamal's locker room; who has welcomed dogs such as Sam Darnold, Le'Veon Bell, C.J Mosley, Marcus Maye, Avery Williamson and Quinnen Williams into HIS locker room with open arms; while still demanding and screaming for more pass rushing dogs (before JD ever arrived into a #33 led locker room).

You see.

When Jamal Adams arrived in NY from a winning culture (LSU) he immediately and instantly (with no hesitation) called out NFL professionals and veterans for having a losing mentality within a losing locker room culture (he absolutely hated our culture once arriving).  

And the Locker room was his from that day on..

You see. 

JD understands he can not trade Adams. Jamal is worth more than "draft picks". Joe Douglas becomes un loyal and trades away our #1 dog? He instantly and immediately loses the heart and soul of not only his defense but his entire locker room. Gregg Williams would then want to strangle both JD & Gase while causing for a locker room divide while players such as Bell, Mosley and yes Darnold will all want out (sooner rather than later). 

JD isn't an idiot in other words. 

Thank you Joe Douglas. For wanting to build around Jamal Adams while @ the same time telling Jerry Jones and Dallas "no thank you". 

Because of you #33 is still a Jet and will retire a JET!

This seems almost entirely made up. The leaders of the locker room are almost always stated as being Jordan Jenkins and Steve McClendon. Adams Also the Cowboys weren't willing to give up more picks and that's why Jamal was not traded. The Jets wanted a first and at least a second for Adams and the Cowboys would only give the first and backup CB. Weird how Jamal Adams wasn't worth a measly second round pick. 

[Guilhermezmc]

We a really about to pay 20m to a safety who has 2 years left on his contract, only the jets.

[Scoop24]

2 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

We a really about to pay 20m to a safety who has 2 years left on his contract, only the jets.

Making him highest paid safety isn’t close to 20 mill a year. 

[Defense Wins Championships]

5 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Wilson number 1 overall above Mahomes? Mike Evans number 7? 

Colin trolling more than usual 

 

Just seeing my favorite current Jets player and NFL STRONG SAFETY being ranked and mentioned alongside of the games most dominant and within the top 10 (closer to top 5) is music to my ears.

Just goes to show us all that I (DWC) know exactly what I'm actually talking about while others, truly do not.

I already can't wait for the next NFL's top 100 Player rankings; because Jamal Adams was already ranked as a top 30s player and that was even before his 2019 dominant breakthrough and breakout performance featuring another Pro Bowl and All-Pro but this time; as an All-Pro First-team honor...

(and will most certainly become respected and ranked as a top 10-15 NFL player come our next NFL top 100 (I'll be LOVING it too). 

Just imagine where the "BOX SAFETY NON IMPACT SS" ranks during the next one?  I'll be having the last lol laugh too  ?

[Mogglez]

45 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Every safety you list retired twenty years ago, was a fifth round draft pick, or was picked up off the street as a dumpster-dive free agent.

I said this same exact thing, to this same exact list, last night and the topic flipped into me somehow lying.

[Guilhermezmc]

25 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Making him highest paid safety isn’t close to 20 mill a year. 

Who said he wants to be just the highest paid safety? He can ask for the highest paid jet.