joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, jgb said: You have done the biggest turnaround in history. From my least to most favorite person overnight. love me or hate me... just please don’t ignore me. You cracked the jgb code jgb watch him in interviews the way he talks and the faces he makes something is not right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Bell was 13-60 yards and 1 catch for 7 yards Sunday against Arizona Will Frank Gore be cut if he has similar or less numbers in any upcoming game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: So, cutting Bell results in the Jets paying him $6,000,000 to sit on his couch, or more likely, play for another team. I thought one of the reasons the Jets were not firing Adam Gase during the season is because the Johnsons didn't want to pay Gase to sit at home on his couch? I think Gase makes about $2,000,000 per year. So, they'd prefer to eat $6,000,000 of Bell's Salary rather than less then $6,000,000 of Gase's salary? Do these guys understand Math? At what point do the Johnsons prove to be so inept that we can go to court to seek to have the Jets put in a Receivership? I think alot of people have this wrong about releasing Bell. Maybe I am wrong but reading through the lines of Douglas's comments, to me it seemed like Bells agent probably approached the jets, who he knew had been trying to trade him, and basically said "look Lev's fed up with all the stuff, you know he's tried to keep it quiet but the losing is frustrating and he cant stand gase, we gotta get him out of here". Douglas tried everything he could after that to trade him, apparently not even being able to get a late round pick, so they agreed to release him. To me, it was less about helping Gase, and more about doing Bell a solid. But hey thats my interpretation, everyones open to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Bell was 13-60 yards and 1 catch for 7 yards Sunday against Arizona Will Frank Gore be cut if he has similar or less numbers in any upcoming game. Stats were not the primary reason that Bell was cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Stats were not the primary reason that Bell was cut. Of course not he wasn't an Adam Gase ball washer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Of course not he wasn't an Adam Gase ball washer. Well, no. As was explained aptly by SE in this thread, it was very likely that the Jets did not want to have LB on the team next year, But, if Bell gets seriously injured, he is guaranteed that money for next year, Meaning the Jets would not have around $12 m to spend elsewhere. Was it really worth it to you to chance that risk just to watch Bell fall down the rest of the year? It was good risk mitigation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Well, no. As was explained aptly by SE in this thread, it was very likely that the Jets did not want to have LB on the team next year, But, if Bell gets seriously injured, he is guaranteed that money for next year, Meaning the Jets would not have around $12 m to spend elsewhere. Was it really worth it to you to chance that risk just to watch Bell fall down the rest of the year? It was good risk mitigation. Understood and agree. but for the record the roster is worse now than when JD took over as GM. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’ll bet $25 to a charity of your choice that Leveon averages less than 4.1 ypc over his next 100 rushing attempts, presuming he even gets 100 more attempts in the NFL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said: I think alot of people have this wrong about releasing Bell. Maybe I am wrong but reading through the lines of Douglas's comments, to me it seemed like Bells agent probably approached the jets, who he knew had been trying to trade him, and basically said "look Lev's fed up with all the stuff, you know he's tried to keep it quiet but the losing is frustrating and he cant stand gase, we gotta get him out of here". Douglas tried everything he could after that to trade him, apparently not even being able to get a late round pick, so they agreed to release him. To me, it was less about helping Gase, and more about doing Bell a solid. But hey thats my interpretation, everyones open to their own. I think this is pretty close to the mark, especially given reports that the Jets gave Bell's agent to speak to teams directly. The relationship between Gase and Bell was clearly irretrievably broken and Douglas made the call that it was best if everyone moved on, even if it means the Jets eat some dead money to get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGreen Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Bell is not done and he will go on to have multiple successful seasons, if he can stay healthy. Often times when folks suffer from Dunning-Kruger they over compensate with baseless exertion of power. That is what he has done in both Miami, and now here. Internally he knows he is in over his head, so he lashes out at informal leaders amongst his subordinates in a misguided attempt to prove competence. Classic!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Warfish Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 Two separate things can be true at once: 1. JD cut Bell because of the injury risk and guaranteed costs in 2021 if he was hurt, when the team had no plan to bring him back. 2. Gase is an egomaniac completely lacking in people skills who completely misused Bell as an asset, and doesn't much care about cutting a guy he never wanted in the first place who didn't fit himself into Gase's brilliant Offensive system. Two things, both (IMO) independently true. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: * I cannot copy and paste videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, THE BARON said: GASE SUCKS JOHNSON SUCKS THE JETS SUCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: EZ SAM SAM don't want to shake anything loose up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, BettyBoop said: In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. In other words, they’re too stupid to know they’re stupid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Warfish said: Two separate things can be true at once: 1. JD cut Bell because of the injury risk and guaranteed costs in 2021 if he was hurt, when the team had no plan to bring him back. 2. Gase is an egomaniac completely lacking in people skills who completely misused Bell as an asset, and doesn't much care about cutting a guy he never wanted in the first place who didn't fit himself into Gase's brilliant Offensive system. Two things, both (IMO) independently true. Yeah, I was thinking about this today. If Douglas fired Gase and named Gregg the interim coach and Gregg cut Leveon Bell, the fans would look at it positively—a no-nonsense coach cutting an unproductive malcontent player and righting the ship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: I think it was far simpler: we're not keeping Bell next year at $16MM but if he gets injured badly between now & the end of the season then his 2021 contract becomes guaranteed. Maccagnan did the same thing with Coples, months after exercising the player's 5th year option, despite the team having basically no OLBs (Pace + Mauldin) and nothing suddenly happening to accelerate the team cutting bait with him. That following year was only an injury guarantee: you can cut him if he's healthy & he's uncuttable if he's injured, and that next year's $ was way too much to risk getting caught holding the hot potato. Thanks for this. I don’t think many people know what is or might be in a player contract. Bell was going to gone after this season. If he does have an injury clause there’s no point in keeping him and the risk. It’s just another bad Maccagnan contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BloodGreen said: Bell is not done and he will go on to have multiple successful seasons, if he can stay healthy. Often times when folks suffer from Dunning-Kruger they over compensate with baseless exertion of power. That is what he has done in both Miami, and now here. Internally he knows he is in over his head, so he lashes out at informal leaders amongst his subordinates in a misguided attempt to prove competence. Classic! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Oh so now there’s a psychologist on the site. Uh huh. Whatever. Without ever once meeting gase people just have so many opinions about his mental health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS jets Fan Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Well at least now we know how Gase feels about any player who doesn't agree with him. I guess the fans are also in this category! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Stats were not the primary reason that Bell was cut. Agree. Bell hurt Gase’s vagina with twitter tweets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, I was thinking about this today. If Douglas fired Gase and named Gregg the interim coach and Gregg cut Leveon Bell, the fans would look at it positively—a no-nonsense coach cutting an unproductive malcontent player and righting the ship. Except Williams would not have cut Bell Bell and Gase have hated eachother since day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Philc1 said: Agree. Bell hurt Gase’s vagina with twitter tweets How would you feel about roster management if Bell get's hurt this year with a serious injury, and is then guaranteed a roster spot and the Jets are on the hook for next year's salary? Do you think that would be smart management? Enunwa on a greater scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 14 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Did you see the 3rd down and 1 pitch play to him this past Sunday - he looked like a sloth trying to turn the corner. Either he was severely dogging it or he's done. A contender may get some value out of him but his burst is gone. A pitch on 3rd and 1 makes no sense anyway since you need to run 6 yards just to get back to the line of scrimmage. Lousy play calling but what else is new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Green DNA said: A pitch on 3rd and 1 makes no sense anyway since you need to run 6 yards just to get back to the line of scrimmage. Lousy play calling but what else is new. Its not a lousy play call .On 3rd and 1 opponents stack the LOS , it makes it easier to get to the corner and outside . If Bell had any semblance of a burst it would have been an easy 1st down. You guys here complain when Gase has them run up the middle then when he makes a good call he gets bashed on that also. If you can bash him for anything , perhaps the player getting the pitch should have been Perine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Adam Gase facial expressions makes him look like a social misfit with a bi-polar disorder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 23 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Its not a lousy play call .On 3rd and 1 opponents stack the LOS , it makes it easier to get to the corner and outside . If Bell had any semblance of a burst it would have been an easy 1st down. You guys here complain when Gase has them run up the middle then when he makes a good call he gets bashed on that also. If you can bash him for anything , perhaps the player getting the pitch should have been Perine. Needing 7 yards to get back to the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 1 is not a good call. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Green DNA said: Needing 7 yards to get back to the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 1 is not a good call. Your wrong. Just simply flat out wrong , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The thing that I truly love about our attempt at finding a silver lining in the release of Bell , is that we believe (me included) that this will give Perinne more opportunities on offense. However, the FACT is that that Bell was out for 3.5 games already, and Perrine didn't get chances with Bell out. How is this any different? Gase didn't give Perrine opportunities when Bell was on IR, and he is magically going to give him more chances now? We Jet fans, on a whole, are predominantly suckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: The thing that I truly love about our attempt at finding a silver lining in the release of Bell , is that we believe (me included) that this will give Perinne more opportunities on offense. However, the FACT is that that Bell was out for 3.5 games already, and Perrine didn't get chances with Bell out. How is this any different? Gase didn't give Perrine opportunities when Bell was on IR, and he is magically going to give him more chances now? We Jet fans, on a whole, are predominantly suckers. And if Gore gets hurt (a virtual impossibility given his track record), get ready for the Ty Johnson show! lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 3:29 PM, Dcat said: I'll paraphrase it so no one needs click the link: "F--K all of you, I'm in charge and I'm doing what I want and not talking about it with any of you peons." That plus "I'm rich as fvck!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: The thing that I truly love about our attempt at finding a silver lining in the release of Bell , is that we believe (me included) that this will give Perinne more opportunities on offense. However, the FACT is that that Bell was out for 3.5 games already, and Perrine didn't get chances with Bell out. How is this any different? Gase didn't give Perrine opportunities when Bell was on IR, and he is magically going to give him more chances now? We Jet fans, on a whole, are predominantly suckers. You're probably right, but Perine was also injured during that same time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJets Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Maybe Gase can get a job at the Manning Passing Camp? After all- - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Your wrong. Just simply flat out wrong , Ok Adam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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