jetsons Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Report: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars Still In ‘Standoff’ Over Rookie Contract (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jackie Treehorn Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, jetsons said: Report: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars Still In ‘Standoff’ Over Rookie Contract (msn.com) “Ultimately, there is very little chance that the team releases Trevor Lawrence in the next four years, unless he’s an absolute bust.” Just the thought makes me feel a funny twinkling sensation. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JETSY14 Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 Wilson didn't sign either. Maybe captain Morgan will be our savior 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, JETSY14 said: Wilson didn't sign either. Maybe captain Morgan will be our savior Yea don’t throw stones our guy still without a deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 #Generational Sent from the NY Jets Training Camp Suicide Watch desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 From the article: “Yates notes that there’s a similar situation playing out with New York Jets’ No. 2 pick Zach Wilson. Both should resolve themselves, but it may be ‘closer to training camp,’ which opens later this month.” This is normal. It’s a matter of how hardass the teams want to be vs. their willingness to let their rookie starting QBs sit out any of training camp. It doesn’t hurt anyone to dig in at this time as long as they’re able to be flexible when push comes to shove. If the Jets and Jags believe that these guys are their FQBs, they should just dump the offset language, imho. They’ll talk about about setting bad precedents, but that really shouldn’t be an issue with the first or second pick in the draft that you’re hoping/expecting these QBs to keep you from drafting again during their careers. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 Guaranteed is Guaranteed. This offset language bullsh*t is insane with the amount of money these greedy owners make off the players. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 This is a silly hill to die on for the teams. Yes its protection to a degree but with so many QBs taken high every year there must be an established boiler plate by now its possible the agents are being dicks because the money is more or less set and they want something to flex with future players but damn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 If Wilson or Lawrence busts everyone current making decisions for either team (except the owners) is gone anyway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 From the article: “Yates notes that there’s a similar situation playing out with New York Jets’ No. 2 pick Zach Wilson. Both should resolve themselves, but it may be ‘closer to training camp,’ which opens later this month.” This is normal. It’s a matter of how hardass the teams want to be vs. their willingness to let their rookie starting QBs sit out any of training camp. It doesn’t hurt anyone to dig in at this time as long as they’re able to be flexible when push comes to shove. If the Jets and Jags believe that these guys are their FQBs, they should just dump the offset language, imho. They’ll talk about about setting bad precedents, but that really shouldn’t be an issue with the first or second pick in the draft that you’re hoping/expecting these QBs to keep you from drafting again during their careers. They tried the same thing with Darnold but caved. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 You've committed to and rebuilt the entire organization around this guy and then you want to throw petty sh*t in his contract in case you're wrong? Guaranteed is Guaranteed. Pay the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Icer Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, jgb said: If Wilson or Lawrence busts everyone current making decisions for either team (except the owners) is gone anyway. Unless you are Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace, then you get to try twice? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Icer said: Unless you are Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace, then you get to try twice? Et tu bruté? Both gonna get the boot… not for drafting Trubisky but for letting him go… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 This seems to come up every year. The CBA should address this during the next cycle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 People have a hard on for Urban Myer for whatever reason so any opportunity to trash the Jags will be taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 My guess is that JD and Zach’s agent are waiting to see the Lawrence deal. The closer it gets to camp they will be looking to pull the trigger though. No rush at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, undertow said: People have a hard on for Urban Myer for whatever reason so any opportunity to trash the Jags will be taken. To be fair Urban Mayer didn’t understand how nfl free agency worked, just got fined $100k by the nfl because he didn’t know how OTAs worked, and signed a 33 year old Tom Tebow to play TE. It’s not hard to find reasons to trash him. All this of course doesn’t mean he won’t be successful, but it does seem he’s surrounded himself with yes men to the point no one is even bringing up basic rules to the guy,. They got fined for contact during OTAs. No coach knew that? I even knew that and I don’t know much about OTA rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: They tried the same thing with Darnold but caved. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app As I recall Jimmy Sexton caved. I remember thinking, if Darnold turns out good, Sexton will torture them next contract. With the money set this is something agents do hoping their clients don't realize they are stealing money from them on a CBA set contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Yes let us focus on the true characters of this story. We have our heel, the 21-year-old quarterback; and our hero, :checks notes:....the owner of All Elite Wrestling. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Yes let us focus on the true characters of this story. We have our heel, the 21-year-old quarterback; and our hero, :checks notes:....the owner of All Elite Wrestling. Yes I heard they are casting Vinnie Jones as Trevor Lawrence for the Netflix film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Guaranteed is Guaranteed. This offset language bullsh*t is insane with the amount of money these greedy owners make off the players. The players make plenty of money as well. They’re both greedy 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I thought there was a set rookie salary cap so this didn’t happen and teams didn’t waste huge contracts on rookies that end up sucking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, New York Mick said: The players make plenty of money as well. They’re both greedy But, here's the thing - Everyone here is overpaid and makes plenty of money. That's not the issue. The bottom line is that the money either goes to the owners (billionaires) or players (millionaires). Us fans pay more each and every year, regardless. In that case, I'd rather more money go to the players - who happen to also be the talent/attraction. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: But, here's the thing - Everyone here is overpaid and makes plenty of money. That's not the issue. The bottom line is that the money either goes to the owners (billionaires) or players (millionaires). Us fans pay more each and every year, regardless. In that case, I'd rather more money go to the players - who happen to also be the talent/attraction. I’d rather both get less and it cost the fans less 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’d rather both get less and it cost the fans less I’m doing my part by not giving the NFL any of my money. Hope that helps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, slats said: I’m doing my part by not giving the NFL any of my money. Hope that helps. I’ve been doing that for a few years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’ve been doing that for a few years now. I sense a revolution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 8 hours ago, jetsons said: Report: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars Still In ‘Standoff’ Over Rookie Contract (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Another agent giving great advice . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I’m kind of happy we drafted Wilson or is it just me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 hours ago, New York Mick said: I’d rather both get less and it cost the fans less That’s never happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 15 hours ago, jgb said: Et tu bruté? Both gonna get the boot… not for drafting Trubisky but for letting him go… Eh. I think Trubisky will have a fine, long career in this league. But even if/when he does, I'll still be saying that hitting the reset button and drafting Fields was the right move for the Bears at the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Eh. I think Trubisky will have a fine, long career in this league. But even if/when he does, I'll still be saying that hitting the reset button and drafting Fields was the right move for the Bears at the time. Being a little flippant. I do think they’ll have criticism for not developing him, though. In fact, they already have been criticized for not building on his strong 2018. Not a Darnold situation where he has never showed anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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