It was the Jets...not Sam Darnold – NFL Week 3 Carolina Panthers Game Tape Breakdown by Kurt Warner

[undertow]

 

[FactsOnly]

LOL

we’ll see by the end of the season how many turnovers the Can has

never seen this much fawning for a player averaging 1 passing touchdown per game

[Albaniajet]

Wierd, I was told the Jets were so much better with flacco

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Yeah. No sh*t Kurt. 

[DoubleDown]

It's too early to reach any definitive conclusions, but...

The narrative that Darnold could not become even a middle of the pack quarterback is looking pretty foolish right now.

[Larz]

Pfffft

we have cap space making plays ALL OVER THE FIELD 

[Integrity28]

6 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

It's too early to reach any definitive conclusions, but...

The narrative that Darnold could not become even a middle of the pack quarterback is looking pretty foolish right now.

In fairness, Joe Douglas believed this to be true. Making it that much more hilarious that he traded him.

Rumor was that Saleh wanted to keep Sam, too.

Cant make that sh*t up.

So, he trades Sam purely for salary cap purposes, then proceeds to only target tier 2 free agents and sit in the money. 

[Integrity28]

10 minutes ago, FactsOnly said:

LOL

we’ll see by the end of the season how many turnovers the Can has

never seen this much fawning for a player averaging 1 passing touchdown per game

Is this another super duper nickname? 

Man, I can’t keep up.

[Albaniajet]

5 minutes ago, Larz said:

Pfffft

we have cap space making plays ALL OVER THE FIELD 

We’re trying to build a culture here cmon

[THE BARON]

If first round draft worthy QB prospects were not actually hoping to avoid the Jets before, they sure as hell are now.   I think Wilson wishes he got left back. 

[T0mShane]

I’ll be pretty excited to see Darnold turning to sh*t without McCaffrey over the next month so we can stop watching this dumbsh*t analysis.

[Integrity28]

14 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’ll be pretty excited to see Darnold turning to sh*t without McCaffrey over the next month so we can stop watching this dumbsh*t analysis.

Now, I am here for the “Sam Darnold elevates the play of Chubba Hubba”.

Ohhhhh yeaahhhhh.

[Nixhead]

We all knew that Sam would be a lot better in Carolina. He hasn't hit a rough patch yet - he will. By year 3 for Wilson I expect Wilson to be better than Sam is now. I do. I do I do I fukin do! Wilson better be better!

[Albaniajet]

4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I’ll be pretty excited to see Darnold turning to sh*t without McCaffrey over the next month so we can stop watching this dumbsh*t analysis.

One of these weeks…

[FidelioJet]

4 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

In fairness, Joe Douglas believed this to be true. Making it that much more hilarious that he traded him.

Rumor was that Saleh wanted to keep Sam, too.

Cant make that sh*t up.

So, he trades Sam purely for salary cap purposes, then proceeds to only target tier 2 free agents and sit in the money. 

Sam would be 0-3 right now and looking every bit as bad as he looked the previous 3 years.

Don't let JD's comments fool you.  He traded Sam because ZW is a superior prospect. 

[GreenFish]

We’re cursed.

[Integrity28]

4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Sam would be 0-3 right now and looking every bit as bad as he looked the previous 3 years.

Don't let JD's comments fool you.  He traded Sam because ZW is a superior prospect. 

I don’t debate hypotheticals. It tends to be circuitous and inane.

[genot]

You'd have to be totally delusional not to know that at this point. 

[Albaniajet]

8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Sam would be 0-3 right now and looking every bit as bad as he looked the previous 3 years.

Don't let JD's comments fool you.  He traded Sam because ZW is a superior prospect. 

We’re still doing this?

[FidelioJet]

10 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I don’t debate hypotheticals. It tends to be circuitous and inane.

what exactly is this?

"So, he trades Sam purely for salary cap purposes, then proceeds to only target tier 2 free agents and sit in the money. "

When you write things like that as if it's fact it should be disputed is all..

[FidelioJet]

7 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

We’re still doing this?

Are you suggesting Sam would be 3-0 right now.

[Albaniajet]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

Are you suggesting Sam would be 3-0 right now.

With a better roster and the 4 pick used on Sewell who is drawing raves in Detroit? Maybe

[JazzyJet]

4 hours ago, Larz said:

Pfffft

we have cap space making plays ALL OVER THE FIELD 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

everyone, absolutely everyone knew deep down that Darnold would find a level of success the moment he left  a team that is not really interested in winning

[jetstream23]

[doitny]

5 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

In fairness, Joe Douglas believed this to be true. Making it that much more hilarious that he traded him.

Rumor was that Saleh wanted to keep Sam, too.

Cant make that sh*t up.

So, he trades Sam purely for salary cap purposes, then proceeds to only target tier 2 free agents and sit in the money. 

so even if Sam is at best middle of the road does that help us in this division?

with Josh Allen, Bill and soon to be Watson in Miami. a QB who is middle of the road is a last place QB in this division.

thats what JD saw.  and we all will see it this year. Sam plays our division.

[Beerfish]

He is not and will never be a real upper echelon QB seen enough to say that.  However he did clearly show what some of us said.  He could win if he had any  talent around him including coaching.

[Peace Frog]

5 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

It's too early to reach any definitive conclusions, but...

The narrative that Darnold could not become even a middle of the pack quarterback is looking pretty foolish right now.

That one uber-Sam hater is going to be really pissed about this. 

Because he was so wrong in about a thousand posts. 

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

what exactly is this?

"So, he trades Sam purely for salary cap purposes, then proceeds to only target tier 2 free agents and sit in the money. "

When you write things like that as if it's fact it should be disputed is all..

When he holds a press conference and literally says “I believe Sam is going to be very good, we’d love him here, but we want to reset the rookie salary cap window” and the players he signs aren’t tier 1 FAs… then these would be “things that actually happened”.

You saying what Sam would do if still here is a hypothetical.

These are categorically different statements. If yo want to debate what I said, do it using something g that is or can be proven. Sam’s results if he stayed here are not that.

[Integrity28]

43 minutes ago, doitny said:

so even if Sam is at best middle of the road does that help us in this division?

with Josh Allen, Bill and soon to be Watson in Miami. a QB who is middle of the road is a last place QB in this division.

thats what JD saw.  and we all will see it this year. Sam plays our division.

Sam playing our division as a Panther =/= same result as a Jet.

I don’t know why people make this style argument so often. You can’t just switch one variable and conclude/assume results.

 

[Welp]

5 hours ago, Nixhead said:

We all knew that Sam would be a lot better in Carolina. He hasn't hit a rough patch yet - he will. By year 3 for Wilson I expect Wilson to be better than Sam is now. I do. I do I do I fukin do! Wilson better be better!

By year 3, Zach is going to get injured mid season and 56 year old backup Ben Roethlisberger comes in and looks slightly above mediocre for a couple games. Jets fans everywhere scream that this is damning evidence that Zach sucks. Zach ends up getting traded to the Colts in the off-season for a pile of scraps and ends up winning 3 Super Bowls with them.

[David Harris]

I'm not convinced.  Yes they crushed NO.

I want to see Sam against better comp.  The Jets and Texans are not good, we'll see against the Cowboys.  Overall Panthers schedule is pretty easy.  I'll still take Zach's upside after 3 games

[doitny]

13 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Sam playing our division as a Panther =/= same result as a Jet.

I don’t know why people make this style argument so often. You can’t just switch one variable and conclude/assume results.

 

i totally agree.

i thought you were one of those sam fans who do make that argument

 

 

[rangerous]

it sure seemed like the receivers were getting open and they were mostly running beyond the yard markers.  even there darnold took a couple of sacks and had some happy feet.  when he could set up to throw he did well.

[Charlie Brown]

15 hours ago, undertow said:

 

I was going to post this myself but then thought folks are going to think I am defending Darnold’s bad play at times.  I am not but the fact is that the Jets look awful this year, awful and Darnold wished he had the talent on paper around him that the Jets do now. 
 

People don’t realize that Darnold was the youngest staring QB in NFL history and he was NOT a finished product when he came out of USC and NEEDED development and nurturing.
 

Again Darnold wasn’t a “cant miss prospect “ despite what his sycophantic fan boys were telling me then…
 

I warned then that the Jets if they didn’t groom Sam would ruin him but was told “you either have it or you don’t”

 Yea that  made sense…..no QB in history alone has ever lifted the worst talent in the league to a championship but Sam Darnold is supposed to!! I don’t think so  

Indeed Sam got exactly the opposite of that which he needed and deserved and then was somehow blamed for the horrific play of the Jets.  
 

Watch the tape Darnold has happy feet and is not as decisive as he was when he was a Rookie!  So yes Darnold’s time on the Jets impacted him ……it made him worse!! And the tape don’t lie. 

So no it wasn’t  Darnold’s fault then or NOW and it never will be.