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[hmhertz]

2022 NFL Draft Rumors: Tyler Linderbaum, Treylon Burks falling down boards?

Speaking during the March 29 episode of Draft Insiders (which you can catch every Tuesday night at 8 PM ET on PFN’s YouTube Channel), Pauline addressed rumors that both highly regarded NFL Draft prospects could find themselves slipping down draft boards once Roger Goodell puts the Jacksonville Jaguars on the clock in Las Vegas.

“Tyler Linderbaum is a guy who a lot of people thought could go in the top 10,” Pauline told PFN Analyst Trey Wingo. “There’s a real possibility that Linderbaum falls out of the first round. Burks, who people were talking about as a top-15 pick, might eventually fall out of the first round.”

In some respects, the news regarding Linderbaum isn’t surprising just based on perceived positional value alone. You would think the NFL would have learned their mistake just one year removed from allowing Creed Humphrey to slide out of the first round. Humphrey earned himself a spot on the PFWA All-Rookie team this year.

Is the NFL affording Linderbaum the same treatment? Or is there something more to the NFL Draft rumors? Considered by some as the top wide receiver in the class, is Burks’ perceived sub-standard NFL Combine performance the only thing perpetuating a plummet out of the first round of the 2022 NFL Draft?

Linderbaum as a prospect

Iowa center Linderbaum is the top-ranked interior offensive lineman on the Pro Football Network Top 300 Big Board. He’s an exceptional athlete who excels in getting to the second level in the run game. Meanwhile, he’s also demonstrated that he can overcome concerns about being relatively undersized by utilizing an innate understanding of leverage.

That comes from his high school wrestling experience. Linderbaum’s ability to use his opponent’s weight against them to succeed was famously demonstrated against now NFL first-team All-Pro offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs. With impressive footwork, football intelligence, and hand placement, Linderbaum has been described as one of the cleanest and safest prospects in the class. So, why are there rumors that he’s slipping down NFL Draft boards?

“Linderbaum is slowly falling for a couple of reasons,” Pauline asserts. “No. 1: I’ve said time and time again, he’s not a power lineman. He’s not someone who just drives opponents off the ball. He’s more of a zone blocker.”

Pauline also points to some concerns around his NFL Combine testing, or lack thereof. “He shows up at the Combine, and his arms are 31”. There are questions about his strength and power. How does a guy with 31″ arms who isn’t very strong handle the Jordan Davis‘ of the world when they get inside your body?”

[HawkeyeJet]

Why yes, I’d certainly take Linderbaum at 35

[Jetsfan80]

One Linderbaum please!

[T0mShane]

Every year, IOLs and WRs fall into the second and third round because they don’t meet the criteria, then two years later, teams are desperately trying to sign or trade for those same players because scouts are generally ignorant hillbillies who couldn’t cut it as position coaches in D-III. 

[Fantasy Island]

Sign me up for a potential Center for a decade for us

[WhartonJet]

Not a fan of either player in Round 1, but the value is definitely there in round 2 for both Linderbaum and Burks

[T0mShane]

Scouts: “Hmmm, you cannot take DK Metcalf in Round One because of his three cone!”

<two years pass>
 

GMs: Please take these two first round picks so I can pay DK Metcalf $90 million in cash please. I drafted Denzel Mims and his excellent three cone.

[Barton]

Been thinking for awhile Linderbaum coud be there at 35. Wouldnt surprise me at all. 

[BigRy56]

Man if Linderbaum dropped to 35 that would be some luck

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Why yes, I’d certainly take Linderbaum at 35

Hawkeye moments after the Jets take Linderbaum:

 

 

[T0mShane]

Scouts: Hmmm you cannot draft a center in round one because of positional value. Draft Quinnen Williams instead, because positional value.

<fast forward to Creed Humphrey skull-******* Quinnen Williams and every Quinnen Williams-type DT he faces>
 

Scouts: Hmmm I wish we had a player like this here Creed Humphrey. Perhaps the Broncos are throwing away another interior offensive lineman that we can grossly overpay?

[Beerfish]

If Burks falls out of the 1st and is like the 6 or 7th wr taken teams  will be kicking themselves in a year or two.

As for Linderbaum, yeah creed Humphrey like situation.  Three of the 4 pro bowl centers from last year were no giants.

[Mo Lew]

If we went Thibs/Wilson/Linderbaum/Burks 

we win the draft. 

[HawkeyeJet]

12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Hawkeye moments after the Jets take Linderbaum:

 

 

Except I’ll be naked…..running backwards 

[Jet_Engine1]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

If Burks falls out of the 1st and is like the 6 or 7th wr taken teams  will be kicking themselves in a year or two.

As for Linderbaum, yeah creed Humphrey like situation.  Three of the 4 pro bowl centers from last year were no giants.

Trey Burks WILL be the steal of the draft and the best WR out of this class. 

 

He's a bigger, stronger, faster Deebo Samuel and literally ran people over in the SEC, and people are jizzing themselves over a bunch of frail little ****s and a slower Keyshawn Johnson. 

[Gastineau Lives]

Thib, Sauce, Linderbaum and Burks 

Holy ****in smokes 

 

[HawkeyeJet]

Just now, Gastineau Lives said:

Thib, Sauce, Linderbaum and Burks 

Holy ****in smokes 

 

That would be…I honestly don’t even know what I’d do.

[Jet_Engine1]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Every year, IOLs and WRs fall into the second and third round because they don’t meet the criteria, then two years later, teams are desperately trying to sign or trade for those same players because scouts are generally ignorant hillbillies who couldn’t cut it as position coaches in D-III. 

 

19 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Scouts: “Hmmm, you cannot take DK Metcalf in Round One because of his three cone!”

<two years pass>
 

GMs: Please take these two first round picks so I can pay DK Metcalf $90 million in cash please. I drafted Denzel Mims and his excellent three cone.

 

15 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Scouts: Hmmm you cannot draft a center in round one because of positional value. Draft Quinnen Williams instead, because positional value.

<fast forward to Creed Humphrey skull-******* Quinnen Williams and every Quinnen Williams-type DT he faces>
 

Scouts: Hmmm I wish we had a player like this here Creed Humphrey. Perhaps the Broncos are throwing away another interior offensive lineman that we can grossly overpay?

[Jet_Engine1]

Just now, HawkeyeJet said:

That would be…I honestly don’t even know what I’d do.

[Obrien2Toon]

First team all pro Tristan Wirfs ? 

[RedBeardedSavage]

25 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Scouts: Hmmm you cannot draft a center in round one because of positional value. Draft Quinnen Williams instead, because positional value.

<fast forward to Creed Humphrey skull-******* Quinnen Williams and every Quinnen Williams-type DT he faces>
 

Scouts: Hmmm I wish we had a player like this here Creed Humphrey. Perhaps the Broncos are throwing away another interior offensive lineman that we can grossly overpay?

 

[Jetworks]

The key about Linderbaum is the leverage/wrestling aspect. Carlton Haselrig was an excellent IOL tactician, despite having never played college football, all because of his excellent wrestling background. 

Burks and Linderbaum are going to be the steals of the draft for anyone who gets them after pick 28 or so. 

[Barry McCockinner]

Linderbaum to the Lions at 34 confirmed.

[jetsons]

Linderbaum @ 35... Muma @ 38 with Tibs @ 4 & Willams @ 10... I can surely live with that... Williams comes back full by no later than week 2-3 & the Jets will have Williams, Moore, Davis, Mims & Berrios as targets for Zach without including any of the TE's... Looks Good to me. 

[RSJ]

Sounds like they are describing Kevin Mawae to me. Sign me up for Linderbaum at 35. Total steal.


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[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, BigRy56 said:

Man if Linderbaum dropped to 35 that would be some luck

I'm guessing that if he falls to the end of first we may move up for him. JD showed last year that when he has the chance to find a 10 year starter on the online he doesn't wait for that guy to drop especially a kid like Linderbaum that's a perfect fit for this offense. 

[Jet_Engine1]

21 minutes ago, RSJ said:

Sounds like they are describing Kevin Mawae to me. Sign me up for Linderbaum at 35. Total steal.


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Shockingly,  Kevin Mawaes RAS score was a 7.15

Nick Mangolds calculated at 9.1

 

And shockingly, I ran our own Connor McGoverns scores from his combine out of Missouri..

 

https://ras.football/2017/01/17/oc-relative-athletic-scores-ras-table/

[doitny]

wow some of you guys are so hard up for a OL .

guys his stock isnt dropping cause he is a center, or cause he cant run a cone,  its dropping cause his arms are so short. and they aren't getting any longer. 

im not a pro scout but from what i read 31 inch arms are a problem. Mangold was 31 7/8 and Humpries is 31 3/4. and hes not strong. and before we put a gold jacket on Humpries after a year remember he played with the one of the best QBs and they tend to make there OL look really good.

 

 

[doitny]

oh and i forgot, no Pro Day and no Combine. sorry but those two 2nd rd picks are too high to chance on this kid.

[Jet_Engine1]

2 minutes ago, doitny said:

wow some of you guys are so hard up for a OL .

guys his stock isnt dropping cause he is a center, or cause he cant run a cone,  its dropping cause his arms are so short. and they aren't getting any longer. 

im not a pro scout but from what i read 31 inch arms are a problem. Mangold was 31 7/8 and Humpries is 31 3/4. and hes not strong. and before we put a gold jacket on Humpries after a year remember he played with the one of the best QBs and they tend to make there OL look really good.

 

 

So, 31" arms at 6'2 is....bad.

 

But 31 7/8" at 6'4 is....good?

 

That's one HELL of a 7/8"!!

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Linderbaum to the Lions at 34 confirmed.

We’ll get the last laugh there.  The 34th pick contract takes up more cap space than the 35th.  

[doitny]

5 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

So, 31" arms at 6'2 is....bad.

 

 

But 31 7/8" at 6'4 is....good?

your arm length is your arm length, doesnt matter how tall you are. its not like your weight where 6-4 being 320 is the same as 6-2 being 300. 

IDK but i just pulled up 5 articles that all same the same thing. his arm length is a concern. 

only Mangold and John Sullivan ( 31.5) had under 32 inch arms and were good at center. 

and Lindenbaum's wingspan is 75 5/8 as compared to Humpries at 79 1/2. i keep searching for Mangold wingspan but i cant find it.

with those warning signs and no Pro day or combine its too risky for 35 and 38. 

[RedBeardedSavage]

Cole Strange, though. Center in round 3-4?

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/2022-senior-bowl-cole-strange/

Cole Strange, UT-Chattanooga
Height: 6-foot-4 3/8
Weight: 304 pounds
Hand Size: 10 1/8 inches
Arm Length: 33 1/8 inches
Wingspan: 80 1/8 inches

 

[Jet_Engine1]

11 minutes ago, doitny said:

your arm length is your arm length, doesnt matter how tall you are. its not like your weight where 6-4 being 320 is the same as 6-2 being 300. 

IDK but i just pulled up 5 articles that all same the same thing. his arm length is a concern. 

only Mangold and John Sullivan ( 31.5) had under 32 inch arms and were good at center. 

and Lindenbaum's wingspan is 75 5/8 as compared to Humpries at 79 1/2. i keep searching for Mangold wingspan but i cant find it.

with those warning signs and no Pro day or combine its too risky for 35 and 38. 

I found the ideal pick for Center, and his RAS score is incredible!

 

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, Jet_Engine1 said:

I found the ideal pick for Center, and his RAS score is incredible!

 

 

 

I always figured @Integrity28 would make a solid IOL.