Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 It's always impressive to me when an undrafted guy can make the final 53. They have to work harder and show more than a guy the team drafted or signed. I don't know anything about TA yet but Saleh seems to love him. Hope he turns into a player for us. I know some of you are hoping he wears #33 so you can re-use an old jersey @T0mShane https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tony-Adams-DB-Illinois Quote Strengths Lean, athletic build with plenty of room for additional muscle mass. Legitimate NFL-caliber athlete. While built more like a cornerback than a safety, he has the vision, range, hitting ability, and ball skills teams want at free safety in the pass-heavy NFL. Has a solid frame with a strong lower body and much improved bulk. Fluid and rangy with the coordination and loose hips to quickly change directions. Tough and scrappy with forceful nature to be physical at all levels of the field. Has good bulk on his frame to be aggressive in run support. Attacks the ball with authority, with quick read-and-react ability. Willing and physical tackler, flashes toughness and aggressive nature vs. the run. Weaknesses Opens his hips too early and allows himself to get turned around in coverage. Has tense ankles and hips with choppy footwork when attempting to redirect and doesn't always look natural changing directions. Inconsistent getting off of blocks. Can be a step slow to react when a quarterback comes back to his side of the field late in progression. Willing but not threatening tackler. Doesn't have the quick-twitch reaction when he gears down to rebuild to top speed. More instinctive than explosive. Needs to tighten his angles in pursuit. Needs to show better tackling technique to consistently finish. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Saleh was pretty high on both TA and Bam in yesterday's interview. Hope they both live up to it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) The same guy drafted Ashtyn Davis in the 3rd round. *** For the slow people, this is a compliment. Let me explain why it's a compliment. He did an AWFUL job with drafting Ashtyn Davis in the third round of the 2020 draft but did a GREAT job with finding Tony Adams as an UDFA. It's okay to criticize Joe Douglas when he does something wrong. Edited September 3, 2022 by TheNuuFaaolaExperience 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Coaching staff loves him. Hopefully they’re right and we found ourselves a true steal - would be a great story 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's always impressive to me when an undrafted guy can make the final 53. They have to work harder and show more than a guy the team drafted or signed. I don't know anything about TA yet but Saleh seems to love him. Hope he turns into a player for us. I know some of you are hoping he wears #33 so you can re-use an old jersey @T0mShane https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tony-Adams-DB-Illinois Saleh wined that his defense couldn’t work because he didn’t have rangy safeties last year and he goes out and stocks up his DB room with gimpy pubes like this guy. If the Jets finish better than 25th in defensive DVOA, I’ll buy a Tony Adams jersey and wear it for a week straight. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 If I'm not mistaken we gave him a pretty hefty UDFA guarantee. Both he and Pinnock have similar profiles: versatile CB/S with great athletic profiles. My guess is the Jets decision was between him and Pinnock in regards to who they would be more upset with losing, with Adams being the more favored. Hoping Pinnock lands on the PS. I honestly haven't seen it with Davis, but my guess is they felt carrying Adams and Pinnock would've been redundant given their status as "developmental" types, whereas Davis has more game experience and is a superior special teamer right now. If they add a veteran, he's probably getting the boot. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, football guy said: If I'm not mistaken we gave him a pretty hefty UDFA guarantee. Both he and Pinnock have similar profiles: versatile CB/S with great athletic profiles. My guess is the Jets decision was between him and Pinnock in regards to who they would be more upset with losing, with Adams being the more favored. Hoping Pinnock lands on the PS. I honestly haven't seen it with Davis, but my guess is they felt carrying Adams and Pinnock would've been redundant given their status as "developmental" types, whereas Davis has more game experience and is a superior special teamer right now. If they add a veteran, he's probably getting the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: The same guy drafted Ashtyn Davis in the 3rd round. Wow thanks. Who knew. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 Scouting report on instinctive and failure to gear back up to top speed reads like the opposite of Davis. On the other hand Strengths: Loose hips. Weaknesses: Tense hips. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Scouting report on instinctive and failure to gear back up to top speed reads like the opposite of Davis. On the other hand Strengths: Loose hips. Weaknesses: Tense hips. I didn't catch that lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: The same guy drafted Ashtyn Davis in the 3rd round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's always impressive to me when an undrafted guy can make the final 53. They have to work harder and show more than a guy the team drafted or signed. I don't know anything about TA yet but Saleh seems to love him. Hope he turns into a player for us. I know some of you are hoping he wears #33 so you can re-use an old jersey @T0mShane https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tony-Adams-DB-Illinois Fringe player. If he makes it into a game, our secondary is screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I didn't catch that lmao Most alarming part for me. “Needs to tighten his angles in pursuit” Imagine him and Davis on the field at the same time. It’s like they both failed geometry class 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Fringe player. If he makes it into a game, our secondary is screwed. Last season we played six players at safety that had worse claims to being out there than this guy. Elijah Riley, Will Parks, Kai Nacua, Jarrod Wilson, Adrian Colbert and Sheldrick Redwine. Six guys that they signed off the street after camp broke. They totaled around 850 snaps, which is around 70%. That's not even considering the 200 snaps played by Pinnock, a rookie CB switching positions. He'll make it into a game, or he'll be cut and some other fringe player we replace him with will. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Most alarming part for me. “Needs to tighten his angles in pursuit” Imagine him and Davis on the field at the same time. It’s like they both failed geometry class Maybe one of the things the coaching staff worked with him on and saw him correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Most alarming part for me. “Needs to tighten his angles in pursuit” Imagine him and Davis on the field at the same time. It’s like they both failed geometry class They both can be problems, but I don't read that as being like Davis. I read that as taking a safe angle. They said instinctive and it sounds like they want him to flatten out and try to get guys sooner. Davis seems more random where he takes the wrong angle and then looks up thinking "whoops!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shuler82 Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: If the Jets finish better than 25th in defensive DVOA, I’ll buy a Tony Adams jersey and wear it for a week straight. JIC, I'll start the online petition to get Tony to change his number to 33. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Last season we played six players at safety that had worse claims to being out there than this guy. Elijah Riley, Will Parks, Kai Nacua, Jarrod Wilson, Adrian Colbert and Sheldrick Redwine. Six guys that they signed off the street after camp broke. They totaled around 850 snaps, which is around 70%. That's not even considering the 200 snaps played by Pinnock, a rookie CB switching positions. He'll make it into a game, or he'll be cut and some other fringe player we replace him with will. And where was our D ranked last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: They both can be problems, but I don't read that as being like Davis. I read that as taking a safe angle. They said instinctive and it sounds like they want him to flatten out and try to get guys sooner. Davis seems more random where he takes the wrong angle and then looks up thinking "whoops!" I kind of read it the same way. I just wanted to get a geometry joke in there. Morphing into my dad now 55% complete 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 What's the over/under on how many times Adams and Davis crash into each other chasing after a WR? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Omg rifling through closet 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Saleh has made a judgment that he would rather have Adams and Davis (maybe that was JD) over Pinnock. He is assuming that Pinnock does not get picked up. We guaranteed Joyner's salary, so he was not going anywhere. I think everyone saw Pinnock has having more potential than Davis. Hopefully Pinnock does not get picked up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Scouting report on instinctive and failure to gear back up to top speed reads like the opposite of Davis. On the other hand Strengths: Loose hips. Weaknesses: Tense hips. Speaking of loose hips, no cartoon has had a waggle like Elsa since Jessica Rabbit… 3 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's always impressive to me when an undrafted guy can make the final 53. They have to work harder and show more than a guy the team drafted or signed. I don't know anything about TA yet but Saleh seems to love him. Hope he turns into a player for us. I know some of you are hoping he wears #33 so you can re-use an old jersey @T0mShane https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tony-Adams-DB-Illinois Thanks for posting this, was curious about this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MykePM Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: I know some of you are hoping he wears #33 so you can re-use an old jersey Is it too much to hope for that the Jets acquire another player named "Darnold"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 No way they give him 33 they want to sell jerseys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Sorry I guess you didn't hear me the first time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Speaking of loose hips, no cartoon has had a waggle like Elsa since Jessica Rabbit… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Sorry I guess you didn't hear me the first time. Just in case you didn't see the first one. Joe Douglas had an awful 2020 draft and ignoring it doesn't make it go away. I'm still a fan of JD and I trust that he will keep drafting more like 2021 and 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Just in case you didn't see the first one. Joe Douglas had an awful 2020 draft and ignoring it doesn't make it go away. I'm still a fan of JD and I trust that he will keep drafting more like 2021 and 2022. NOBODY is ignoring how bad the draft turned out. IT HAPPENS IN THE NFL. All kinds of reasons why the deck was stacked against him. Doesn't matter: You are paid to produce. Early reports looked good. Late reports are bad. If we are talking about 2021's draft in the same way this year, we worry. If we start talking about 2022's draft after the 2023 season, JD will probably be gone. But there is NOBODY on here ignoring how bad the draft has turned out. It doesn't mean the picks, at the time, were all bad. Hindsight is something an actual GM doesn't have; only the armchair ones have that luxury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: Saleh wined that his defense couldn’t work because he didn’t have rangy safeties last year and he goes out and stocks up his DB room with gimpy pubes like this guy. If the Jets finish better than 25th in defensive DVOA, I’ll buy a Tony Adams jersey and wear it for a week straight. Gimpy pubes lol ? I haven’t heard gimpy since last reading a Charles Dickens novel. @T0mShane road scholar strikes again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: All kinds of reasons why the deck was stacked against him. This is why people still talk about the 2020 draft. Too much SOJFsplaining about why he botched the draft. He botched the draft, and we can just leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: For the love of God. NOBODY is ignoring how bad the draft turned out. IT HAPPENS IN THE NFL. All kinds of reasons why the deck was stacked against him. Doesn't matter: You are paid to produce. Early reports looked good. Late reports are bad. If we are talking about 2021's draft in the same way this year, we worry. If we start talking about 2022's draft after the 2023 season, JD will probably be gone. But there is NOBODY on here ignoring how bad the draft has turned out. It doesn't mean the picks, at the time, were all bad. Hindsight is something an actual GM doesn't have; only the armchair ones have that luxury. "It just happens in the NFL." Why did we fire mccaganan and idzik? Why? It just happened, just forget about the bad drafts and look forward, tally ho! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Tony Adams asked what does he think of the jets defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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