AlexVanDyke Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted October 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2022 It was spotty, but the QB is allowed to step up in the pocket or to run outside and try to gain yards. No rule that you have to give up ground and then just throw it up for grabs 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barton Posted October 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2022 No, it wasnt. As soon as there is the slightest of pressures, he's pusses out and runs backwards instead of sliding around within the pocket or moving up in the pocket. Ever seen him avoid the rush from the edge by moving UP in the pocket and delivering a good pass? Me neither. 19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyduhamelshouse Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 the QB was worse. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Because the QB made it worse. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Barton said: No, it wasnt. As soon as there is the slightest of pressures, he's pusses out and runs backwards instead of sliding around within the pocket or moving up in the pocket. Ever seen him avoid the rush from the edge by moving UP in the pocket and delivering a good pass? Me neither. That’s where the bad men are that can give you boo boo’s lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2022 It wasn't all-world, no. But Zach had time. He just doesn't see the field well, doesn't make his reads fast enough, and doesn't make decisions at NFL speed. So he holds it too long, then bails at the hint of pressure, to do his Zach Pirouette Dance. And once the Dance starts, rarely will any positive play come out of it, he's is (if I recall) the worst in the NFL at making positive plays once he's under pressure. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Give me a break. It just looked bad because Wilson ran for absolutely no reason, all the time. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Gas, No Gase Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb It’s true the protection needed to be a lot better. The 1st interception was a poorly thrown ball which happens to all quarterbacks. However, Interceptions 2 and 3 were stupid decisions which should never be made by a 2nd year NFL quarterback. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Zach seemed to struggle with his reads and tried to often buy time by scrambling -- usually looping backwards toward the sideline where his throws became awkward and off balance. He needed to be decisive and quick as the pocket collapsed. He regressed to running around like a high schooler trying to make a play in the weekend league. It was a total breakdown of discipline, truthfully, not the offensive line. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Zach in the pocket when there’s pressure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Stop blaming the oline for Zach's poor play. The cat is out of the bag. No more hiding and no more excuses. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Hwhip Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Wasn't great but Wilson made it look worse by running around like he was in a ******* horror flick. Tuck it and go, one yard is better than damn throwing it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppls17 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 He was pressured like 20 times and also played bad. Both can be true. It’s a balance line plays better he will start stepping up. When he steps up into pocket his throws are good. Fix the line and you fix zackSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Barton said: No, it wasnt. As soon as there is the slightest of pressures, he's pusses out and runs backwards instead of sliding around within the pocket or moving up in the pocket. Ever seen him avoid the rush from the edge by moving UP in the pocket and delivering a good pass? Me neither. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb He runs for his life when he doesn't even have to. Drops back 20 yards for no reason the throws it the the wrong team. But everyone else is the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: It wasn't all-world, no. But Zach had time. He just doesn't see the field well, doesn't make his reads fast enough, and doesn't make decisions at NFL speed. So he holds it too long, then bails at the hint of pressure, to do his Zach Pirouette Dance. And once the Dance starts, rarely will any positive play come out of it, he's is (if I recall) the worst in the NFL at making positive plays once he's under pressure. But his "escapability" though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb Who cares. Welcome to every team. this “kid” can kiss my ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Nope. I thought the protection held up well enough for a patchwork OL. QB can’t hold the ball and bail the pocket after every pressure. Mac sucks but even he showed the ability to climb the pocket, let the trash go by him, and throw or take positive yardage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coquito said: But his "escapability" though Zach's agility to escape is quite spectacular. The problem is he doesn't DO anything with that agility. Those flashy plays where he spins and avoids, and jukes, and avoids....usually end in nothing. Or worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb Sorry, but just not true. As others stated, he doesn't process fast enough to make the correct reads so he holds the ball and bails.... Right now, he is the problem and IMHO not the solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 The protection looked worse than it was because the quarterback was a complete disaster almost every time he was pressured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 What about MLF? Not one QB run play despite the Bears showing how it's done. I'm almost ready to give up on Zack's improving any time soon but MLF did him no favors today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: What about MLF? Not one QB run play despite the Bears showing how it's done. I'm almost ready to give up on Zack's improving any time soon but MLF did him no favors today. They were both very bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Zach is the only qb I have ever seen that can scramble around and buy himself 10 additional seconds and still not find anyone open. Any other qb that can buy that much time usually finds their receivers for huge gains. CBs cant cover for that long. Its mind boggling. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Zach made mistakes bit how are so many of you ignoring this. The kid was running for his life literally the entire gane. With that protection will come a couple of mistakes especially for a young qb You are spot on right but that still doesn’t excuse Zac no matter what. We drafted this kid hoping that despite crappy all line play he was going to be able to create some thing that’s what a great quarterback to do and he’s probably not great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 An insane amount of resources have been devoted to the OL over the last 3 years. It's isn't a great unit but it isn't a poor one either. Stop blaming the OC, the OL, the wind, Elijah Moore, the defense or the special teams. Today fell on one guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 This is incorrect, Mac Jones was the one running for his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warfish said: Zach's agility to escape is quite spectacular. The problem is he doesn't DO anything with that agility. Those flashy plays where he spins and avoids, and jukes, and avoids....usually end in nothing. Or worse. Yeah, it's a skill when you can avoid a sack, not toss an INT. I'm just sick of hearing the play by play fellas talk about it like it's something we can all be so proud of. Once a game, twice a game, fine. But almost every passing play? Really? I know the O-line is banged up, but at this point I'm beginning to think Zach is trying to embarrass them, like it's their fault he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 No pocket awareness. Seems like he's afraid to step up in the pocket. Maybe he's just afraid to get hurt and would rather run around in hopes of getting lucky. If that's the case, time to move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Coquito said: Yeah, it's a skill when you can avoid a sack, not toss an INT. I'm just sick of hearing the play by play fellas talk about it like it's something we can all be so proud of. Once a game, twice a game, fine. But almost every passing play? Really? I know the O-line is banged up, but at this point I'm beginning to think Zach is trying to embarrass them, like it's their fault he sucks. 100%. Zach should be on a "three second and throw" clock by coaches. 1-2-3-THROW. If he can't do that, he doesn't belong out there. And I don't think he can do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: An insane amount of resources have been devoted to the OL over the last 3 years. It's isn't a great unit but it isn't a poor one either. Stop blaming the OC, the OL, the wind, Elijah Moore, the defense or the special teams. Today fell on one guy. I’d argue two guys. JFM and ZW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Can someone do like a 30 second video of Wilson running in circles set to Benny hill music? oddly specific lol but it would be hilarious ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 The protection was fine. What are some of you even watching? This is the NFL. There is going to be some pressure at times within a game. The quarterback refuses to step up in the pocket and bails to the outside every time someone is within 2 yards of him. I've never seen anything like it, and yes, it's 100% on the QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexVanDyke Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: An insane amount of resources have been devoted to the OL over the last 3 years. It's isn't a great unit but it isn't a poor one either. Stop blaming the OC, the OL, the wind, Elijah Moore, the defense or the special teams. Today fell on one guy. The majority of the resources aren’t playing. Every single Douglas ol draft pick was out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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