AlexVanDyke Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. 2 5 10 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Disagree. They held their own against a pretty strong Oline and running game and had Mac under pressure most of the game. The coverage was super tight for the entire game, and nothing was easy for the Pats. We lost b/c of special teams and our young qb. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Defense dragged Zach to 4 wins and played well today overall. It’s the NFL. Teams score points. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Defense dragged Zach to 4 wins and played well today overall. It’s the NFL. Teams score points. Field Goals. We lost to field goals. ZW INt. JFM. Another ZW INT. Oh and what. Another ZW int. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. 5 fields goals allowed. Most from short field position. Yeah, ok. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 An old 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Defense dragged Zach to 4 wins and played well today overall. It’s the NFL. Teams score points. An old Aaron Rogers has this team with the injuries putting up 40 a game. not calling for that trade. But as rough as he looks the talent on our team is much greater 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Bad take 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If you can't put up 23 point on offense you aren't gonna win many games. That's ignoring the qb chucking lollipops to the other guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 This thread is an example of the lengths that Zach jersey buyers will go to defend their purchase 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Most would agree I’m higher on Zach than the average JN poster, but this thread is silly. The Defense played great and kept the team in the game. Zach made too many mistakes today. I think the 2nd pick should be a “don’t make that mistake again” moment. He’s been cute with the throw aways a couple other times lately. I was expecting ups and downs this season so I’m also not freaking out. I think he’s getting better but had some weaknesses exposed. He needs to keep growing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 A dumbass penalty and bad QB play cost them a very winnable game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. Are you just trying to start a thread to trigger people or are you actually the lowest football IQ person on this forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I wanted Zach to work He didn’t Let’s be honest with ourselves. This team has a good chance to be a consistent playoff contender for the next 5+ years as things are presently headed. Just a merely good Kirk Cousins/Derek Carr type under center can get us there. F*ck going the draft route It just doesn’t work for us. We can’t even recapture pre-surgery Chad Pennington, much less Patrick Mahomes. Go get someone who doesn’t constantly forget something as simple as their ABC’s under the slightest bit of pressure and doesn’t treat football as if it’s handball. Take your hopes of the next Montana, Brady or Elway and stuff them up your assh0le. It’s just not in the cards for us. If we’re ever going to win another Super Bowl in the next 30 years, it’s going to stem from a combination of a great running game and a truly upper echelon defense. It is what it is 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 This could battle the "One day guys like berrios wont be on this team" as an all time awful thread. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The qb has played poorly all season. It takes a whole lot of mental gymnastics to just pretend that isn’t a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: Most would agree I’m higher on Zach than the average JN poster, but this thread is silly. The Defense played great and kept the team in the game. Zach made too many mistakes today. I think the 2nd pick should be a “don’t make that mistake again” moment. He’s been cute with the throw aways a couple other times lately. I was expecting ups and downs this season so I’m also not freaking out. I think he’s getting better but had some weaknesses exposed. He needs to keep growing. Right now I'm not sure Zach could grow a beard 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Embarrassing performance by the defense today 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: This could battle the "One day guys like berrios wont be on this team" as an all time awful thread. I'm not knocking Berrios but, from the Cleveland game to the GB game (5 games) he had a total of 3 catches for 11 yards. For the season so far (7 games), he's had 11 catches for 63 yards. I know he's had some good runs and he had the one TD pass but he's not exactly tearing it up. I know he's not supposed to be at that salary and he's not "the guy" here but still those are uninspiring numbers so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Embarrassing performance by the defense today No it wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: No it wasn't. Yes it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexVanDyke said: They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. If Zach could have gotten a few first downs, then they start pushing field position forward and don't always end up within their 10 after a punt. Add to that some poor returns from Berrios (he can have a bad return now and then), and it gets tough. The D gave up 1 TD, sacked the QB 5 times, and had 2 INTs. Can't ask much from from your D. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheastadiumjetfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, New York Mick said: A dumbass penalty and bad QB play cost them a very winnable game. well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Jet Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 They did enough to win. The opening drive of the second half was the low point but they held a team that kept getting good field position to field goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I have two critiques of the defense today: Appeared to be a lot of 3rd and long conversions, specifically on crossing routes Too many missed tackles on the Pats RB; he was caught behind the line once or twice and broke out for big runs. Other than that, they were great. The RTP penalty on Mosley was garbage. The one on JFM was questionable, but again, if you've been hit all year with RTP and you know the Ref's are looking for an excuse to throw one, DO NOT EVEN TOUCH THE QB after the ball is thrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, xJayce said: I have two critiques of the defense today: Appeared to be a lot of 3rd and long conversions, specifically on crossing routes Too many missed tackles on the Pats RB; he was caught behind the line once or twice and broke out for big runs. Other than that, they were great. The RTP penalty on Mosley was garbage. The one on JFM was questionable, but again, if you've been hit all year with RTP and you know the Ref's are looking for an excuse to throw one, DO NOT EVEN TOUCH THE QB after the ball is thrown. I remember counting at least 4 plays where the Pats threw to 1 WR with another WR in front of him blocking. The guy who caught the ball then had a perfect path to run around and get the needed yardage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I remember counting at least 4 plays where the Pats threw to 1 WR with another WR in front of him blocking. The guy who caught the ball then had a perfect path to run around and get the needed yardage. I noticed that a couple of times as well. Looked like some kind of downfield screen. I wasn't sure if it was drawn up that way or just coincidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 hours ago, xJayce said: I noticed that a couple of times as well. Looked like some kind of downfield screen. I wasn't sure if it was drawn up that way or just coincidental. No way was it coincidental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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derp Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The defense did mess up its opportunity to carry the team to a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 hours ago, AlexVanDyke said: They are the ones that lost the momentum for us and all game they couldn’t get us any field position at all. Did you notice Zach was starting way back almost every time? Time of possession was very unbalanced most of the game. Again, Zach made some bad decisions but he wasn’t awful …he thre for 340 yards. while yeah the defense made a few mistakes.....you have to work pretty hard to have a take on the game this bad. zach was 100% AWFUL. matter of fact i'm not sure awful is a strong enough word to describe it. maybe abhorrent or horrific.....not sure they are strong enough either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 hours ago, bitonti said: This thread is an example of the lengths that Zach jersey buyers will go to defend their purchase As I was walking out of the stadium yesterday seeing a lot of Wilson jersey!s I was actually thinking something similiar. how pissed are these guys that another 150 or so is blown on a player not likely to be here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The blame for this loss in order: 1) Zach 2) JFM 3) Special Teams 4) Coaching wasn’t great 5) Oline play was bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Zach turned the ball over and put the defense on a short field all game, they held up for the most part. The JFM penalty was boneheaded but there was more than enough time to make up for it. As bad as the 3rd down defense was in the first half, the Pats ended the game 6-19 including 0-7 in the second half. They fixed the issue. Pats scored a 4th & 1 TD on a blatant OPI that should have been called back. The defense wasn’t perfect but on the whole they held their own. Special teams were a bigger culprit yesterday, if anything. That squib kick to open the second half made no sense at all. It’s hard to ever blame any loss on one person but this is about as close as it gets. We don’t have a QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I didnt know Zachs mom posted here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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