BurntDice Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, JiFields said: Lets reunite Leftwich w/ Winston. 5k and 30 TD's together. I’d take Winston over Lamar. Saves 30+ mil per season and multiple first round picks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 No doubt there was a drop-off going from Arians to Bowles, but their o-line was a disaster (injuries) coming out of camp into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, heymangold said: Player/Coach?!? Saves Woody money not having to pay an OC AND gets the franchise attention just in time for Hard Knocks. He’ll be all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Tampa was 2nd overall in scoring offense last season and dropped to 25th this year. More to the point, Leftwich is to blame for being the 25th scoring offense but no credit when they were 2nd? injuries to the OL, drop in the running game and by Brady is his fault too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Running the worst back in the league on 1st and 10 every possession until you’re forced to throw in the 4th qtr, yes. I mean, he didnt...just looking at the splits, that's an extreme exaggeration. Brady attempted the most passes in his career and the most per game in the NFL. He was also calling plays for a HC that believes that running game will return to the NFL and that passing is overrated and once made Stevan Ridley the focus of his offense on a win and in game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: More to the point, Leftwich is to blame for being the 25th scoring offense but no credit when they were 2nd? injuries to the OL, drop in the running game and by Brady is his fault too? Arians leaving was a huge loss for the Bucs. Coaching in fact matters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, JiFields said: I mean, he didnt...just looking at the splits, that's an extreme exaggeration. Brady attempted the most passes in his career and the most per game in the NFL. He was also calling plays for a HC that believes that running game will return to the NFL and that passing is overrated and once made Stevan Ridley the focus of his offense on a win and in game. Bowles is a bigger issue for sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, JetsAddict said: Bowles had 3 OCs in four years with NYJ. Now 5 OCs in 6 years as HC. This is the same direction that Saleh and JD are heading in, not coincidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Arians leaving was a huge loss for the Bucs. Coaching in fact matters. Arians did his best to support and elevate his friends and mentees, Bowles and Leftwich. Unfortunately, he could not work forever. He tried his best. Bowles will be a good DC anywhere. Leftwich needs to reboot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 If he can't get it done with Tom Brady then imagine what he couldn't do with Zach Wilson! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Did Leftwich fail Brady? I think it was the other way around. Brady was terrible this season no he wasnt. maybe he wasnt HOF TB12 but he was far from terrible. funny how some people here are kissing Daniel Jones ass for comp 67% and throwing 15 TDs and 5 INTs, but Brady had a terrible year for 66% 25 TDs 9 INTs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: He was just interviewing for HC positions last year He was being mentioned,in PFT , as a candiate just this week. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Jets need to be on the phone with him right now Bowles scapegoated his OC who has won a chip, because they decided to go with a washed Tom Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Arians leaving was a huge loss for the Bucs. Coaching in fact matters. Arians wasn’t the HC last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Arians wasn’t the HC last season Yes he was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Bizarre that he couldn't do better with a 45-year-old man at quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, DLJ said: Jets need to be on the phone with him right now Bowles scapegoated his OC who has won a chip, because they decided to go with a washed Tom Brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, JetsAddict said: Bowles had 3 OCs in four years with NYJ. Now 5 OCs in 6 years as HC. Tampa Bay has become Toilet Bowles . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Yes he was. Brain freeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I like Leftwich but Arians was the OC. Arians is one of the great offensive minds in the NFL. He took Leftwich under his wing. I think Leftwitch has potential but I would like to see him install an O and be successful calling plays without Brady or Arians before I would hand him the keys to the Jets O. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, varjet said: This is the same direction that Saleh and JD are heading in, not coincidentally. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Brady effectively deep sixed the bucs, for all purposes he was retiring because he did not like arians actually taking him to task and telling him when he was playing sh*tty. He comes back after arians steps down and is happy at the bowles country club taking 2 weeks plus off in training camp. Their season is a disaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, doitny said: no he wasnt. maybe he wasnt HOF TB12 but he was far from terrible. funny how some people here are kissing Daniel Jones ass for comp 67% and throwing 15 TDs and 5 INTs, but Brady had a terrible year for 66% 25 TDs 9 INTs. Look behind the numbers and do a little analysis please. Brady threw 732 passes while Jones threw 472. If Jones threw 732 passes, he would have thrown for 5000 yards and 24 TDs. Brady threw to Godwin and Evans, two (!) Pro Bowl receivers, plus Gage as a #3 (who caught 67 passes for 800 yards with Atlanta in 2021). Jones threw to a bunch of nobodys. Brady had somewhat gaudy numbers because of the massive number of attempts, but his YPA was terrible. Brady was bad this season. His arm strength was noticeably weaker, his accuracy was off, and he can't move. You can't analyze pro football by looking at basic stats. The sport is much more complex and nuanced than that. Brady is done. He's cooked. He's an old man hanging on for his ego and is now just like all the other QBs who hung around a year or two too long. If the Jets sign him, it will be a disaster from a PR and a performance standpoint. Let's get someone 15-20 years younger who is not the most hated Jets opponent ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: He was just interviewing for HC positions last year That move has to be political... sure, Byron wasn't perfect, and couldn't establish the run -- but this feels short-sighted. I think there's long term potential there... who knows what pressured-expectations were placed on him this year-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: Running the worst back in the league on 1st and 10 every possession until you’re forced to throw in the 4th qtr, yes. Hmm, dunno bout that... sounds like someone's fantasy team let him down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Turns out only one who could stop Tom Brady is Todd Bowles. The king of coverage busts and punting on 4th and short from midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Bugg said: His coordination consisted mostly of saying "Great idea, Tom!". Hard pass. We made that mistake before hiring Adam "OK Peyton" Gase! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Look behind the numbers and do a little analysis please. Brady threw 732 passes while Jones threw 472. If Jones threw 732 passes, he would have thrown for 5000 yards and 24 TDs. Brady threw to Godwin and Evans, two (!) Pro Bowl receivers, plus Gage as a #3 (who caught 67 passes for 800 yards with Atlanta in 2021). Jones threw to a bunch of nobodys. Brady had somewhat gaudy numbers because of the massive number of attempts, but his YPA was terrible. Brady was bad this season. His arm strength was noticeably weaker, his accuracy was off, and he can't move. You can't analyze pro football by looking at basic stats. The sport is much more complex and nuanced than that. Brady is done. He's cooked. He's an old man hanging on for his ego and is now just like all the other QBs who hung around a year or two too long. If the Jets sign him, it will be a disaster from a PR and a performance standpoint. Let's get someone 15-20 years younger who is not the most hated Jets opponent ever. i dont want Brady either, im just not on the Daniel Jones train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Look behind the numbers and do a little analysis please. Brady threw 732 passes while Jones threw 472. If Jones threw 732 passes, he would have thrown for 5000 yards and 24 TDs. Brady threw to Godwin and Evans, two (!) Pro Bowl receivers, plus Gage as a #3 (who caught 67 passes for 800 yards with Atlanta in 2021). Jones threw to a bunch of nobodys. Brady had somewhat gaudy numbers because of the massive number of attempts, but his YPA was terrible. Brady was bad this season. His arm strength was noticeably weaker, his accuracy was off, and he can't move. You can't analyze pro football by looking at basic stats. The sport is much more complex and nuanced than that. Brady is done. He's cooked. He's an old man hanging on for his ego and is now just like all the other QBs who hung around a year or two too long. If the Jets sign him, it will be a disaster from a PR and a performance standpoint. Let's get someone 15-20 years younger who is not the most hated Jets opponent ever. Brady was 3rd overall in DYAR and 8th in DVOA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 COME ON DOWN!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Bowles is a bigger issue for sure. Brady leaves, that team goes 4-13 next year in a weak division. Bowles gets fired, never gets another HC gig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, JiFields said: Lets reunite Leftwich w/ Winston. 5k and 30 TD's together. Simms did it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, varjet said: This is the same direction that Saleh and JD are heading in, not coincidentally. Because they fired Mike LaFleur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 He seemed to have a good working relationship with Brady. And that’s important. I didn’t think his body of work as Bucs OC was that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Arians wasn’t the HC last season Yes he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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