Are we missing a deep threat?

[Maynard13]

So draft is over. I like  the players we got. BUT, are we missing something? A DeepThreat? A WR that can stretch the field and open things up underneath. Garret Wislon is great but he's not a Tyrek Hill type WR who can get behind defenses. And Mike Williams never was either. he is a more possession type WR. Corely is a mid range gadget guy.  Right now our WR room is GW, M Williams, Corely, Lazard, Gipson, Brownlee, Charles. The last 3 are reserves/special team guys.  Does this suffice?  I was hoping we could get a burner.  Does JD sit on this or is there something in the works? 

[Joe W. Namath]

Mike Williams has been the best deep threat in the league over the last 3 seasons if I am not mistaken.

[Trotter]

bring Mims home😃

[C Mart]

Apr 27
The #Jets have signed UDFA WR Tyler Harrell!

Another exciting playmaker on Offense who ran a 4.28 40 time at Miami’s Pro Day!

 

Tho very little college production

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tyler-harrell-1.html

 

DRAFT PROFILE: BIO
Tyler Harrell camefrom Miami, Florida, where he attended high school and quickly established himself as a standout athlete. Rated as a four-star recruit by ESPN and recognized as the 53rd-best receiver nationally, Harrell displayed elite speed, running a 4.41 in the 40-yard dash and clocking a 10.37 in the 100m dash at the Florida state finals. His high school career was marked by significant achievements, including helping his team win two FHSAA Class-4A championships.

Harrell's collegiate journey began at Louisville, where he redshirted the 2018 season, recording two receptions for 36 yards. Over the following years, he saw sporadic play until his breakout season in 2021, where he caught 18 passes for 523 yards, averaging 29.1 yards per reception, and scored six touchdowns. This included a memorable 75-yard touchdown against Florida State. After Louisville, Harrell transferred to Alabama for the 2022 season, participating in six games and contributing modestly with two catches for 18 yards. In 2023, he concluded his collegiate career at Miami, playing in eight games and catching just four passes totaling 45 yards.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS

• Fits a zone system, can sift through oncoming traffic and explode through tiny creases and cutback lanes. Elite, darting stop-and-go acceleration. Dangerous in the open field.
• Fluid athlete with explosive burst and speed to stretch the field and breeze past defenders. Has a quick first step and gets to top speed in a hurry.
• Made Bruce Feldman's Freak's List - ranked #43. He wrote "At U of L, he was consistently hitting 24 mph on the GPS and had a 10-yard split of 1.41. His former coach there, Scott Satterfield, told The Athletic that Harrell is the fastest guy he’s ever timed and had him on his stopwatch at a 4.19 in the 40; he did 4.24 on the laser."
• Exceptional track speed, potential top performer in 40-yard - if only he had been invited
• Explosive off the line, excels in vertical routes and stacking defenders
• Has demonstrated ability to outperform top-tier cornerbacks in the ACC
• Shows potential to significantly impact games with increased targets
• Effective in clutch moments, showcasing notable playmaking in key games
• Proven high school track champion, bringing athleticism and competitiveness
• Performance at pro day supports his reputation as one of the fastest in draft history

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• Super limited experience - has only ever had a single year of decent production
• Route-running, particularly intermediate and outside the hashes, needs development
• Reliance on speed over agility and evasive maneuvers in open field
• Limited exposure and production in slot receiver roles
• Transition to NFL may require substantial technique and playbook adjustments
• Average hands

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
Tyler Harrell's draft prospects are intriguing due to his crazy speed, marking him as a potential deep-threat specialist at the pro level. However, his limited experience and narrow route tree are significant concerns. Harrell has not been tested extensively across different offensive schemes and situations, which could limit his initial role.

NFL teams considering Harrell will weigh his potential impact against the need for significant coaching and scheme adjustments to broaden his skill set. His success in the NFL will likely depend on his ability to quickly learn and adapt to the complexities of professional defensive schemes while developing a more versatile route tree.

Overall, while Harrell's ceiling as a complete wide receiver may be capped by his current technical skills, his ability to provide an impact as a vertical threat could make him a possible late-round selection although most likely a PFA.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tyler-Harrell-WR-Louisville

[Ghost420]

10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mike Williams has been the best deep threat in the league over the last 3 seasons if I am not mistaken.

He's also coming off an injury 

[Larz]

The Wesley Walker take it all the way type, yes they don’t have that guy. 

[Mr. Rogers]

G Wilson may not be Tyreek, but he's plenty fast enough to be a "deep threat". He plays to every bit of that 4.38 40yd dash, the Jets have just needed him much more to play as a possession WR. That's probably still the case, but with Mike Williams also offering a great deep outlet (one of the highest YPC averages in the league since he joined) and even Lazard offering some size and high-point ability, I'm not worried about this team lacking deep threats. For Rodgers style (more of a back-shoulder thrower than a Josh Allen / cj stroud cannon) we're set.

If anything, I'm feeling like we may lack the traditional slot threat Rodgers loves (see Cobb, Nelson, etc). G Wilson may be flexed into that role sometimes though, which should work great. And of course Corley offers a threat too, although I don't think he possesses the ability to Separate underneath compared to other guys I listed. I did want a traditional slot in the draft...

[GreenFish]

I think so. But, barring injury, I think the receiving unit will be fine.

Corley solves the slot WR issue.

But we will be talking WR again next year.

Mike Williams is on a 1 year deal

Allen Lazard was a healthy scratch last year. Maybe he turns it around. I expect him to get cut next year. Corley will be the starting slot by mid season.

Next year, we will be looking for Mike Williams’ replacement and a number 4 WR who is a deep threat.

[ncjetman]

williams is coming off injury but when healthy is that deep threat - and not just chosen anderson type guy - runs good routes wins contested catches - will be huge for us demanding double teams and opening up intermediate field for wilson and the flats for corley conklin and hall - he’s the guy you’re asking about


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[extmenace]

Mike Williams, he’s not a burner but his contested catch rate is amount the best. If he’s 1 on 1, he has the skill set to go up and get it. We have the guy, the question will only be for how much of the season?

[Chewy and the Jets]

Agree with the post.  Would have liked a more traditional speedy route runner (Roman Wilson?) in the third round trade up but everyone seems juiced with Corley so I'm okay.  Williams is no burner and Garrett probably has more break away speed than we've seen because of all the missed open deep balls that could have changed the perception if only our QBs weren't the absolute pits.  Overall other than Breece our offensive would be considered on the very slow side, nobody keeping the defense particularly concerned about being beaten over the top.  They seem high on Gibson maybe he takes a step up?  On a last note do we feel Lazard has anything to offer assuming Rodgers returns healthy?  I mean has anyone addressed what the hell happened with him last year?  An $11 million per year player a healthy scratch for much of the first year of the agreement is really an epic fail.    

[Maynard13]

52 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mike Williams has been the best deep threat in the league over the last 3 seasons if I am not mistaken.

But  he is more of a high point catch type WR. He  is not a burner. 

[Maynard13]

42 minutes ago, C Mart said:

Apr 27
The #Jets have signed UDFA WR Tyler Harrell!

Another exciting playmaker on Offense who ran a 4.28 40 time at Miami’s Pro Day!

 

Tho very little college production

woooooeeee That fast. 

[rangerous]

53 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

So draft is over. I like  the players we got. BUT, are we missing something? A DeepThreat? A WR that can stretch the field and open things up underneath. Garret Wislon is great but he's not a Tyrek Hill type WR who can get behind defenses. And Mike Williams never was either. he is a more possession type WR. Corely is a mid range gadget guy.  Right now our WR room is GW, M Williams, Corely, Lazard, Gipson, Brownlee, Charles. The last 3 are reserves/special team guys.  Does this suffice?  I was hoping we could get a burner.  Does JD sit on this or is there something in the works? 

I don’t know if I would classify tyreek as a deep threat.  To me a deep threat is a guy who can get past the defense.  He can but his bread a butter is quickness and getting separation.  And it’s not like tua is a threat to throw a good deep ball.

[Maynard13]

35 minutes ago, ncjetman said:

williams is coming off injury but when healthy is that deep threat - and not just chosen anderson type guy - runs good routes wins contested catches - will be huge for us demanding double teams and opening up intermediate field for wilson and the flats for corley conklin and hall - he’s the guy you’re asking about


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No. I am talking more like Christian Watson.  Took a half season or so but he finally clicked with Rodgers.That is the BLAZIN fast WR I was hoping for and hope we can get. 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, C Mart said:

Apr 27
The #Jets have signed UDFA WR Tyler Harrell!

Another exciting playmaker on Offense who ran a 4.28 40 time at Miami’s Pro Day!

 

Tho very little college production

Glad we at least took a flier on a guy like this.  This was the type of player that I was looking for JD to take in the 4th round (e.g. Tez Walker).  I agree with the OP's concern, though I do think there's a chance our WR unit will be "good enough" if MW stays healthy and Corley's college abilities translate in the pros.

[#27TheDominator]

Mike Williams is a deep threat, but he is not a "stretch the field" guy.  He is a guy that is open if 1 on 1, so you throw him the bomb.  I don't think they have a Jonathan Carter style deep threat.  I don't know that has to be a thing.  I like Corley.  He was one of my favorite receivers and he should be fun, but I was shocked that was their choice.  I am very interested to see what they plan to do.

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mike Williams has been the best deep threat in the league over the last 3 seasons if I am not mistaken.

Yeah but he's coming off an ACL and we signed him. So...

[ARodJetsFan]

I'd argue that Mike Williams & Garrett Wilson are both deep threats.

The only question mark is will Mike Williams be 100% by the start of the season?

Time will tell.

[Guilhermezmc]

Surely Davante Adams will become a Jet by the trade deadline

[Falco21]

The deep threat isn't so much of a concern when we have a guy like Corely who can eat up the middle of the field. I do not think it is a bad idea to add a veteran receiver right now, but I think we are in much better shape with the current group. 

[ARodJetsFan]

4 minutes ago, Falco21 said:

The deep threat isn't so much of a concern when we have a guy like Corely who can eat up the middle of the field. I do not think it is a bad idea to add a veteran receiver right now, but I think we are in much better shape with the current group. 

There are alot of bodies in the Jets WR room right now.

G. Wilson

M. Williams

M. Corley

A. Lazard

X. Gipson

I. Charles

J. Brownlee

M. Taylor

L. McCutcheon

T. Harrell

 

[Mr. Rogers]

4 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I'd argue that Mike Williams & Garrett Wilson are both deep threats.

The only question mark is will Mike Williams be 100% by the start of the season?

Time will tell.

What I was thinking too.

Hell - even Lazard can be a "deep threat" if it's a play like a 20 yard, back corner of the end zone throw high over a shorter slot corner.

If the Jets add anyone it will be more of a slot/ traditional intermediate possession receiver, I think. Rodgers will occasionally go deep to keep teams honest, but he's more of the type to just toss up a sideline pass and let his contested catch receiver go get it. True deep bombs to speed WRs are somewhat rare from him. 

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Maynard13 said:

So draft is over. I like  the players we got. BUT, are we missing something? A DeepThreat? A WR that can stretch the field and open things up underneath. Garret Wislon is great but he's not a Tyrek Hill type WR who can get behind defenses. And Mike Williams never was either. he is a more possession type WR. Corely is a mid range gadget guy.  Right now our WR room is GW, M Williams, Corely, Lazard, Gipson, Brownlee, Charles. The last 3 are reserves/special team guys.  Does this suffice?  I was hoping we could get a burner.  Does JD sit on this or is there something in the works? 

1. Jets look more and more like they're running a run-first, power-football type of offense.  This will not be an Air-Raid type of team throwing go routes much.

2. Judging what any of our WR's can do based on playing with Zach and the trash backups is, IMO, unwise.  Wilson is a legit #1 WR talent and he's not slow nor does he run bad routes.  

3. "Burners" are, for the most part, over-rated outside the true elite guys.  Most "burners" are #3 or #4 WR's for a reason, good for a catch or two maybe, but not much else.  That's not what this offense is going to be.

As an aside, what speed are you considering as a "burner"?   

[Maynard13]

16 minutes ago, Warfish said:

1. Jets look more and more like they're running a run-first, power-football type of offense.  This will not be an Air-Raid type of team throwing go routes much.

2. Judging what any of our WR's can do based on playing with Zach and the trash backups is, IMO, unwise.  Wilson is a legit #1 WR talent and he's not slow nor does he run bad routes.  

3. "Burners" are, for the most part, over-rated outside the true elite guys.  Most "burners" are #3 or #4 WR's for a reason, good for a catch or two maybe, but not much else.  That's not what this offense is going to be.

As an aside, what speed are you considering as a "burner"?   

Like fast

[Beerfish]

Douglas, as he always does just ignored Wr after his pick of corley.

4th round:

Troy Frankiln, Javon Baker, Tez Walker, Jacob Cowing

5th round:

Anthony Gould, Ainias Smith, Jamari Thrash, Bub Means

6th round:

Ja'Quan Jackson, Malik Washington

Some really good prospects here, many with good speed, certainly better prospects than the likes of gipson and browning

Instead he trades down 4 times, then trades up for a QB and takes multiple running backs.

One of these guys above could end up being the next puca nacua, Douglas simply refuses to take swings at mid round wrs and then we all curse the 'bad luck' of the jets at not finding a nacua or amon ra st brown or diggs.

 

[Integrity28]

Roster building doesn’t come with a league-wide shopping list where we all need one of each of the same thing.

 

[section314]

15 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Douglas, as he always does just ignored Wr after his pick of corley.

4th round:

Troy Frankiln, Javon Baker, Tez Walker, Jacob Cowing

5th round:

Anthony Gould, Ainias Smith, Jamari Thrash, Bub Means

6th round:

Ja'Quan Jackson, Malik Washington

Some really good prospects here, many with good speed, certainly better prospects than the likes of gipson and browning

Instead he trades down 4 times, then trades up for a QB and takes multiple running backs.

One of these guys above could end up being the next puca nacua, Douglas simply refuses to take swings at mid round wrs and then we all curse the 'bad luck' of the jets at not finding a nacua or amon ra st brown or diggs.

 

I would think it’s safe to say that Braelen Allen , who we took in the 4th, will have much more of an impact on the Jets this year than any of those 4th rd guys you listed. Maybe JD, coaches and scouts feel that the guys on the bottom of our WR list , with a healthy AR, are better than the guys from this years draft who went late? Who knows?

[jeremy2020]

Teams average less than 1 40+ air yards pass per game.

[Beerfish]

6 minutes ago, section314 said:

I would think it’s safe to say that Braelen Allen , who we took in the 4th, will have much more of an impact on the Jets this year than any of those 4th rd guys you listed. Maybe JD, coaches and scouts feel that the guys on the bottom of our WR list , with a healthy AR, are better than the guys from this years draft who went late? Who knows?

We needed to pick a RB, we took two

Allen will see very  little playing time unless Breece Hall gets hurt

I'll bet that two or three of those Wrs will have a better career than allen.  I like Allen as a player but functional RBs are a dime a dozen.  We took two.

[rayzor]

I do wonder if Javon Baker was the pick before NE took him and made Douglas trade down with GB getting less than optimal value.

[Gastineau Lives]

Marquez Valdez Scantling is great. Just great.

[OMA]

You can't throw deep without the time in the pocket. If they have fixed that issue I think we have the receivers and QB to be near the top of the league in big passing plays.

[Maynard13]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Douglas, as he always does just ignored Wr after his pick of corley.

4th round:

Troy Frankiln, Javon Baker, Tez Walker, Jacob Cowing

5th round:

Anthony Gould, Ainias Smith, Jamari Thrash, Bub Means

6th round:

Ja'Quan Jackson, Malik Washington

Some really good prospects here, many with good speed, certainly better prospects than the likes of gipson and browning

Instead he trades down 4 times, then trades up for a QB and takes multiple running backs.

One of these guys above could end up being the next puca nacua, Douglas simply refuses to take swings at mid round wrs and then we all curse the 'bad luck' of the jets at not finding a nacua or amon ra st brown or diggs.

 

I would have liked to see a guy like Tez Walker added. he is smooth, and very much like a Corey Davis type. 

[Maynard13]

40 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

We needed to pick a RB, we took two

Allen will see very  little playing time unless Breece Hall gets hurt

I'll bet that two or three of those Wrs will have a better career than allen.  I like Allen as a player but functional RBs are a dime a dozen.  We took two.

Odd but I love the way Isiah Davis runs.  JD apparently does too.  He is an old skool RB.