Popular Post nycdan Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 nfl.com usually has some decent content. It's pretty much where you can hope for the most neutral writing and some great videos. Well now they have decided they need a paywall. https://www.nfl.com/ - the top article has a little note saying 'NFL+'. If you click on it, they want you to pony up $7/month for the privilege of reading about their sport that you already support in any number of ways. So, more or less, they want us to further subsidize $50M/year QBs. To quote my current favorite alien: 14 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darnold's Forehead Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 And yet people will pay it and somehow not care when the Dak Prescotts of the league get 60 mil per year. Players do not need to earn historic amounts of money every single year. Major league sports are a drain on the middle-lower classes. They have 0 competition to force them to adjust prices. Shame. Society’s boned. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 The NFL is a greedy, piggish organization. This is par for the course. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I went to a Yankee game once. That was about it. I don't spend money on sports. If the game isn't on my local channel for some reason then there is always the radio. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Reddit.com/r/NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nycdan Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 26 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: I went to a Yankee game once. That was about it. I don't spend money on sports. If the game isn't on my local channel for some reason then there is always the radio. Funny thing about this is that the only way in which I do regularly give the NFL money is I added NFL Network to my Sirius subscription. It used to be really good. It's gotten worse but still way ahead of any other channel (I know....low bar). ESPN will never see a dime of mine. Especially when they are fighting with SAS over whether he gets $18M/year or $25M/year. Are you kidding me?! I feel like the market needs another clean startup (like what Barstool tried to be once upon a time I guess). Just mostly objective and rational sports talk. Don't indulge the idiot call-ins. Don't indulge the bloated head personalities. Just talk about sports. Is there something out there I'm missing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Well, it does say NFL+......... The RedZone makes the $15/mo. premium worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Oh like the Jake Asman show. Begging for money 3 times a day. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets Things Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 Pretty sure the NFL is capable of going even lower. 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I've never found a paid subscription service with articles that were actually worth paying for and I'm sure NFL+ is not any different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 It won't be now. It won't be 5 years from now. But in the near future, the NFL is going to regret nickel and diming their customers. They can't continue down the path of putting watered down games on 5 different platforms and expect people to be enthusiastic about paying these platforms to watch watered down garbage. Personally I am already sick of it and switched to IPTV. I refuse to pay an exorbitant amount for sub par product. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 19 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Oh like the Jake Asman show. Begging for money 3 times a day. More like every 5 minutes... He seems like a nice enough guy - I talked to him for a minute last year at a game during the tailgate... but I can NOT stand to listen to his YT "show". It's so fake. He thinks he's Mike Russo or Colin Cowherd, while talking to an audience of literally hundreds... I LIKE a bunch of the Jets YT guys, actually I consider a few of them friends (Met a bunch last year in person), but the guys that think they're on ESPN or are emulating Media hot take douches are unwatchable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: He seems like a nice enough guy - I talked to him for a minute last year at a game during the tailgate... but I can NOT stand to listen to his show. Its so fake and crap. He thinks he's Mike Russo or Colin Cowherd, while talking to an audience of literally hundreds... Did you get his autograph? 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Did you get his autograph? 😅 He got MINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said: I went to a Yankee game once. That was about it. I don't spend money on sports. If the game isn't on my local channel for some reason then there is always the radio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted June 21 Popular Post Share Posted June 21 Hey guys it's June and it's pretty sunny outside. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Hey guys it's June and it's pretty sunny outside. What about the heat advisory? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Hey guys it's June and it's pretty sunny outside. Raining every damn day here in Rocket City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 The NFL could do whatever they want. It all gets eaten up immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 45 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: More like every 5 minutes... He seems like a nice enough guy - I talked to him for a minute last year at a game during the tailgate... but I can NOT stand to listen to his YT "show". It's so fake. He thinks he's Mike Russo or Colin Cowherd, while talking to an audience of literally hundreds... I LIKE a bunch of the Jets YT guys, actually I consider a few of them friends (Met a bunch last year in person), but the guys that think they're on ESPN or are emulating Media hot take douches are unwatchable. Jake literally worked for ESPN radio. Bitching about guys that are grinding their asses off to provide you with free jets content is ridiculous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 12 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Hey guys it's June and it's pretty sunny outside. +1 If the product isn't worth the cost, don't pay it. I know I don't for silly sh*t like articles about football lol. With that said, it's not like any of our own companies/employers give away their products for free either if they could monetize it. Seems such an odd complaint in a profit-oriented capitalist society like ours to bitch that a company has the naked gall to actually charge for it's product.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, bicketybam said: What about the heat advisory? 😉 That's funny! I wish OTAs were THIS week....98deg. Those pussy prima-donnas would probably practice indoors. I miss the days of Parcells...98deg? Perfect! Double padded practice. Players pucking on the field. A thing of beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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freestater Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: I've never found a paid subscription service with articles that were actually worth paying for and I'm sure NFL+ is not any different. Jetsinsider.com lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Guys, I put my Venmo in my profile. $4/month subscription to read my posts is a relative bargain. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted Friday at 07:19 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:19 PM 2 hours ago, JetPotato said: Guys, I put my Venmo in my profile. $4/month subscription to read my posts is a relative bargain. You're going to pay us $4.00/month to read your posts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted Friday at 07:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:41 PM 2 hours ago, JetPotato said: Guys, I put my Venmo in my profile. $4/month subscription to read my posts is a relative bargain. Is that separate from your Only Fans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted Friday at 08:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:07 PM 3 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Jake literally worked for ESPN radio. Bitching about guys that are grinding their asses off to provide you with free jets content is ridiculous K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted Friday at 08:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:26 PM Who was the corporate sponsor for the pay wall? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Corporation does what every corporation does.. do ya'll complain about it to your own employers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:32 PM 3 hours ago, freestater said: Jetsinsider.com lol What was that old paper one with that Dan Leberfiejd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted Friday at 09:00 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:00 PM Making matters worse is Utube increased the NFL ticket - get this, to $440. I called and cancelled my subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted Friday at 09:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:16 PM 5 hours ago, bicketybam said: I've never found a paid subscription service with articles that were actually worth paying for and I'm sure NFL+ is not any different. atheletica if you buy on sale was reasonable. i think i paid like 1 dollar a month for the first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted Friday at 09:26 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 09:26 PM I have no issue with anyone charging for their work product. That's pretty much how our economy works although the internet did flip that around somewhat. But the NFL traditionally makes their money from ticket sales and TV contracts, and they make a LOT of money that way. Then they started mucking around with the draft to make a few more dollars. Then they started splitting their games up onto multiple platforms to make a few more dollars yet. Then games in Europe and South America. All chasing the next dollar while creating a negative experience for the fans who provide all that revenue. nfl.com is a brand site. Its value should be evident in its ability to create more interest and excitement around the primary product, the games. But they even are trying to suck a few more dollars out of that. Any incremental dollar they get from it probably comes at a cost of several times that in lost exposure to more eyeballs. It's their decision to make. I just happen to think its idiotic, verging on brain-dead. This falls into my area of expertise. Measurement strategy. Companies often measure the wrong thing thinking it makes them look smart. In this case, measuring the subscriptions and saying "we earned that much more" without taking into account the negative impact those sales may have had on other revenue is a pretty common thing to do. Typically someone gets comped for doing the one thing and does not get dinged for the other side of the equation. Overall, the company loses, because individuals are incentivized and compensated in silos. Corporate America at it's less than finest. My anecdotal example. A long time ago I used to read content on espn.com. They generated some value from my engagement in terms of ads, and possibly interest in a televised event. Now I don't even look at the site. Ever. Too many other options to get scores, articles, and bad mock drafts that are open. Maybe they make more from the subscriptions, but I honestly do not know a single person that has ever admitted to paying for an espn subscription. Not one. Ever. But then I also do not know a single person that admits to listening to or caring about anything Steven A Smith says and yet they feel he is worth $18M/year. So it is possible, no matter how hard to believe, that I am not all-knowing. Of course my existence as a Jet fan pretty much already established that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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